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on 20/9/10
i have had the same issue using IE. So i used google chrome and was able to get on.
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on 20/9/10
I must have missed this thread the first time around but here’s my only FSL suggestion: Is there any way you can show the score for every contest on the front page? On FD I can go to my account and see all my games with scores in a single view, but on FSL I have have to click each game individually to get the score, which sometimes takes forever if I have 7 or 8 games going.
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on 4/10/11
I have now played a few weeks with you guys and here are my thoughts. Overall, I really like your site. I didn’t think I would play much but that view has changed. I love the multiple cap levels especially.
Here are some things I’d like to see….
1) Multiple team editing. I would play a lot more if you had it. Even editing 20 teams Sunday morning is maddening. I think the reason you’re against this is because of contest hogging but I bet you can figure out a way to prevent that and give people the ability to post more games with a mass editing feature which would drive up your volume. I would play 100+ games a week with you if you have this feature. Otherwise, it’s 20-30.
2) Filtering of games in the lobby. You post a lot of games which I love but it’s hard to find what you want. Filtering would help.
3) Showing scores and opponents once games start in one place. While on the homepage you can see your games but you don’t know if you are winning or not nor do you know who you’re playing. It takes a lot of clicking to see how you’re doing.
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on 4/10/11
I agree with Westy on his feedback…managing and putting together multiple lineups becomes a bit more work. If there was a way to copy a team from one league to another that would be great.
Also, if there was a way to organize players by team/game when selecting a team that would be helpful too.
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on 5/10/11
@Westy said…
I have now played a few weeks with you guys and here are my thoughts. Overall, I really like your site. I didnβt think I would play much but that view has changed. I love the multiple cap levels especially.
Here are some things Iβd like to seeβ¦.
1) Multiple team editing. I would play a lot more if you had it. Even editing 20 teams Sunday morning is maddening. I think the reason youβre against this is because of contest hogging but I bet you can figure out a way to prevent that and give people the ability to post more games with a mass editing feature which would drive up your volume. I would play 100+ games a week with you if you have this feature. Otherwise, itβs 20-30.
2) Filtering of games in the lobby. You post a lot of games which I love but itβs hard to find what you want. Filtering would help.
3) Showing scores and opponents once games start in one place. While on the homepage you can see your games but you donβt know if you are winning or not nor do you know who youβre playing. It takes a lot of clicking to see how youβre doing.
Thanks for digging up this tread from the past. While I am sure you would love to do mass editing, we currently do not allow it for contest hogging reasons. While your action is being limited by this, it is hard to argue with the success you have had so far, and part of that is from easier match-ups. How is your ROI at FSL compared to other sites?
2) We need better lobby filtering as we are running so many different leagues now. Currently the best you can do is filter on sport, registering leagues, and then sort a column, like cost or name. This is not really enough, so we will get much better here.
3) Pushing more info up to the my contests section would be a nice touch, and probably reduce the server load as well. I will see what we can do there.
@db730
Yes, we need filtering options in the draft screen. There are great examples on how to do this well on other sites, that we need to implement.@morty
We consider our $1 no-rake leagues to be our version of a free-roll. With average play, you can play forever for free (no loss in account balance). -
on 5/10/11
@morty
We consider our $1 no-rake leagues to be our version of a free-roll. With average play, you can play forever for free (no loss in account balance).Im not sure this is the same thing as a risk-free (Try before you buy) play just because of no-rake proposition.
I mean if you lose, you still lose a buck. A freeroll on the other hand is different.
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on 5/10/11
@Blinders said…
Thanks for digging up this tread from the past. While I am sure you would love to do mass editing, we currently do not allow it for contest hogging reasons. While your action is being limited by this, it is hard to argue with the success you have had so far, and part of that is from easier match-ups. How is your ROI at FSL compared to other sites?
2) We need better lobby filtering as we are running so many different leagues now. Currently the best you can do is filter on sport, registering leagues, and then sort a column, like cost or name. This is not really enough, so we will get much better here.
3) Pushing more info up to the my contests section would be a nice touch, and probably reduce the server load as well. I will see what we can do there.
@db730
Yes, we need filtering options in the draft screen. There are great examples on how to do this well on other sites, that we need to implement.@morty
We consider our $1 no-rake leagues to be our version of a free-roll. With average play, you can play forever for free (no loss in account balance).Are you supposed to tell everyone how other players do on your site? And you know full well ROI over 50 games is useless so why even bring it up?
I will continue to play 10x more games at Fanduel though because they have mass editing, that’s all I know. You could limit or remove contest hogging if you really wanted to.
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on 5/10/11
Something I dislike is the min. $20 or $25 whatever it is withdraw limit
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on 5/10/11
@westy
I was trying to make the point that it is possible to make more money in absolute terms while entering less leagues at FSL. We would never reveal any actual numbers about our users with the exception of cash wins which we already share with Rotogrinders. We actually do not want you to take 200 leagues a weekend at FSL, so our approach is working, even though it is not in your best interest. We are looking out for the community as a whole, and gear our rules towards new members. You are correct that ROI is meaningless at 50 or so leagues. Hopefully, you will be making enough money at FSL to make it worth your while to play there. Sorry if I crossed a line.
@bluemonick
Your points are correct. The reason that we charge $1 is that our target customer is willing to make a deposit to try our product. There are many freeroll lurkers who will never deposit, and never convert to paying customers. We also run our rake free $1 leagues every single day, which is better than an occasional freeroll IMO.@jennyangel
FSL does not take moneybrokers. Are other sites accepting them? PayPal or credit/debit is accepted.FSL has no minimum cash out amount. Try requesting $0.01 and see for yourself. As long as this is not abused this policy will remain in effect. No problems in 4 1/2 years so far.
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on 5/10/11
I like the salary cap and the football action so far at fsl, but I’m with west and db when I cones to being able to see your score and oppents score under my account. Also would make it a lot easier to find players with the game by game breakdown like db said. Overall I think it’s a good site and I will keep playing there.
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on 5/10/11
@bluemonick said…
Im not sure this is the same thing as a risk-free (Try before you buy) play just because of no-rake proposition.
I mean if you lose, you still lose a buck. A freeroll on the other hand is different.
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