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  • lk2000

    Supreme Court strikes down federal law banning most states from allowing sports betting which appears to clear way for states to legalize sports betting if they wish to do so. What are everyone’s initial thoughts? Seems to be huge news for the leagues and sports fans and will probably put additional pressure on long term viability of current dfs business model.

  • bigez952

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    My initial reaction is it scares the hell out of me. I’ll try to keep an explanation short – but basically this is rapidly becoming a country of have and have nots, and the ramifications of that are intensifying by the day. I don’t want to get too political, so this is oversimplifying, but i feel most institutions are hanging on by a thread, and the actual root cause can be traced back to class. So with that as my starting belief, Legalized sports betting scares me because its another false dream, addiction and money vacuum that will widen that chasm. I realize gamblers had access to sports betting without it being legal, but when its normalized and you can do it legally from a phone or in your town, that’s a whole new level. I’d love to think that we could say the majority of people are responsible and reasonable, but is that really the case? I also say this as someone with an addictive personality, so it’s not judging others, but saying it from a place that has experienced it first hand.

    I totally disagree that it should be the governments job to police and control people’s addictions. People should have the freedom of choice when it comes to things that won’t harm anyone but themselves. if you have such an addictive personally that you can’t handle easy access to gambling all the sites should and likely will have the ability to impose lengthy self bans and there is tons of support groups out there for people addicting to gambling. Nothing I hate worse than the government telling me I can’t do something with my own money because someone may become addicted to it. I for one have my own personal budget which I used for entertainment purposes so I would enjoy being able to do the occasional legal sports bet from my phone while watching a game on a Friday night.

  • Uberheblich

    Here is my worry, hopefully, I can explain:

    Let’s say you are in a state that doesn’t allow sports betting for the next couple of years.

    DraftKings/Fanduel come out and allow sports betting through their current apps. Will the sites allow you to still play DFS and not sports betting?

    How will they deal with it being illegal for you to make a sports betting wager but it being completely legal for you to a play DFS.

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @bigez952 said...

    I totally disagree that it should be the governments job to police and control people’s addictions. People should have the freedom of choice when it comes to things that won’t harm anyone but themselves. if you have such an addictive personally that you can’t handle easy access to gambling all the sites should and likely will have the ability to impose lengthy self bans and there is tons of support groups out there for people addicting to gambling. Nothing I hate worse than the government telling me I can’t do something with my own money because someone may become addicted to it. I for one have my own personal budget which I used for entertainment purposes so I would enjoy being able to do the occasional legal sports bet from my phone while watching a game on a Friday night.

    you cant be naive enough to think that people losing more money than they can afford only affects them. It has consequences for all of us

  • KindGuy

    Statement from DK: http://about.draftkings.com/2018/05/14/draftkings-moves-to-offer-sports-betting-after-u-s-supreme-court-overturns-outdated-ban/

  • feekdogg

  • KindGuy

    Fanduel’s statement: https://newsroom.fanduel.com/2018/05/14/fanduel-statement-on-supreme-court-decision/

  • bigez952

    @TnRiddles said...

    you cant be naive enough to think that people losing more money than they can afford only affects them. It has consequences for all of us

    Maybe I am naïve but I don’t see that there is a high % of people that will ruin their lives by gambling more they can afford with the implementation of sports betting when gambling already exists and at least where I live you can get to a casino within 30 minutes no matter which direction you drive.

    Sure some people shouldn’t gambling at all and may need to impose lifetime bans on themselves but it still doesn’t change my opinion that I would rather have the freedom to place sports wagers from home at my own. I view gambling a form of entertainment and am capable of limiting myself to a strict budget.

    There is a million other things that people can get addicted to which are already legal and way more harmful to the general public. Alcohol being by far the #1. Yes there should be regulations on things but it shouldn’t be the governments job to ban everything that may be harmful and at the end of the day people should have some freedoms and be responsible for their own actions.

  • gaelicgirl

    @elementasrat said...

    Fanduel’s statement: https://newsroom.fanduel.com/2018/05/14/fanduel-statement-on-supreme-court-decision/

    Thanks for all the links!

  • mellofellowsu

    @bigez952 said...

    There is a million other things that people can get addicted to which are already legal and way more harmful to the general public. Alcohol being by far the #1. Yes there should be regulations on things but it shouldn’t be the governments job to ban everything that may be harmful and at the end of the day people should have some freedoms and be responsible for their own actions

    Drunk drivers plow over and kill people every day, but oooooh nooo, we can’t allow people to bet their own money. That’ll really do damage to society.

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @bigez952 said...

    Maybe I am naïve but I don’t see that there is a high % of people that will ruin their lives by gambling more they can afford with the implementation of sports betting when gambling already exists and at least where I live you can get to a casino within 30 minutes no matter which direction you drive.

    You do realize this opens up ease fo gambling to a ton of people that previously had no legal access? As for your comment about alcohol , this is yet another stepping stone to more of that and other things. I love to gamble just as much as any other degen , but do not think for a second that everything coming from this will be positive

  • feekdogg

    @TnRiddles said...

    You do realize this opens up ease fo gambling to a ton of people that previously had no legal access? As for your comment about alcohol , this is yet another stepping stone to more of that and other things. I love to gamble just as much as any other degen , but do not think for a second that everything coming from this will be positive

    Gambling is available in some form in every state except Hawaii and Utah.

  • Srmustangs

    Here is draft kings problem. Sharks who play dfs play due to edge vs public even at high rake. If DK thinks it’s players and sharks will be loyal after DK has proven to be unloyal time and time again they are crazy. No shark will play at -115 or higher lines. They will go where edge is highest. If DK was smart they bill themselves as stock market of sports like betfair. Create massive liquidity and charge a percentage of winning. Otherwise I’ll stick to a local and play on credit as usual. No faith in the DK uppers to do this correctly.

  • sonic999

    Can’t believe Dfs players on here saying the gov’t should prohibit betting…ass clown hypocrites

  • gaelicgirl

    @sonic999 said...

    Can’t believe Dfs players on here saying the gov’t should prohibit betting…ass clown hypocrites

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @feekdogg said...

    Gambling is available in some form in every state except Hawaii and Utah.

    not legal sports gambling…we arent talking scratch offs here

  • Hamay1970

    Maybe NOW, because of supreme court ruling, DFS sites like FD and DK will have to lower their “rake” and make it more fair for non-sharks, open up more “single-entry” games, etc. etc. sharks have had too much of an advantage and these DFS sites mainly cater to them. the tables will soon turn. too bad FD isn’t a public company ‘cause it’s time to take a massive short position.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/politics/sports-betting-ncaa-supreme-court/index.html

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @sonic999 said...

    Can’t believe Dfs players on here saying the gov’t should prohibit betting…ass clown hypocrites

    who said that?

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @Srmustangs said...

    Here is draft kings problem. Sharks who play dfs play due to edge vs public even at high rake. If DK thinks it’s players and sharks will be loyal after DK has proven to be unloyal time and time again they are crazy. No shark will play at -115 or higher lines. They will go where edge is highest. If DK was smart they bill themselves as stock market of sports like betfair. Create massive liquidity and charge a percentage of winning. Otherwise I’ll stick to a local and play on credit as usual. No faith in the DK uppers to do this correctly.

    Gamblers go where the lines are most favorable anyway….Dk only benefits from having a sportsbook side to their business

  • Blahaaron

    I just find it weird that Americans are against having the right to gamble. Many states allow you to shoot a person who steps onto your grass. But playing DFS is too far… I guess I’ll never understand

  • emnj69

    If DFS sites dont lower the rake and do more to attract users it will be the death of them. I know they are trying to use this as an opportunity but there is no way I am using the daily sites to place my bets unless they offer me something my local track or casino wont. A good amt of folks do daily because it was legal and normal sports better in most places was not. Sports betting the odds are more in your favor then daily as daily guys can gain advantage through mass entry. I did very well last year in DFS but this now outlet is a game changer for me

  • jlowery73

    2012 DDC Main Event Champion

    • 2014 FAFC Finalist

    • x3

      2015 FACFC Finalist

    I find it hilarious that people on a DFS board are thinking this is a dangerous thing. Local casinos popping up all over the place and every corner store offering scratch offs that are very popular to people who can’t afford them. Yet….it is a bad thing that we have an educated guess over something to gamble on?

  • TnRiddles

    • Blogger of the Month

    @emnj69 said...

    If DFS sites dont lower the rake and do more to attract users it will be the death of them. I know they are trying to use this as an opportunity but there is no way I am using the daily sites to place my bets unless they offer me something my local track or casino wont. A good amt of folks do daily because it was legal and normal sports better in most places was not. Sports betting the odds are more in your favor then daily as daily guys can gain advantage through mass entry. I did very well last year in DFS but this now outlet is a game changer for me

    tbh , I dont think most are going to simply run from DFS to sports betting. I know I wont. ALso , there is a huge amount of people that dont have access to a local track or casino.

  • MrBreeze

    Let Freedom Ring ! Surely this was a travesty against our free society that has finally been righted.

  • telestraightshooter

    @feekdogg said...

    Gambling is available in some form in every state except Hawaii and Utah.

    Utah allows DFS, Nevada does not.

    One could make an argument DFS is not gambling, but the 15% rake @ dK removes doubt that it is.

  • TeamTwerk

    I have minimal interest in sports betting. I hope Draftkings can remain focused on their primary product that people like which is US fantasy sports. Also hope they don’t try to steer people into sports betting or do their usual tricks and ploys to get people to gamble more than they otherwise might want to.

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