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  • unageo09

    MONTGOMERY, AL (WAFF) – Alabama Attorney General Luther Strange announced Tuesday that he has issued cease and desist letters to DraftKings and FanDuel after reviewing Alabama’s gambling statutes and determining that paid daily fantasy sports contests constitute illegal gambling.

    “As Attorney General, it is my duty to uphold Alabama law, including the laws against illegal gambling,” Strange said in a written statement. “Daily fantasy sports operators claim that they operate legally under Alabama law. However, paid daily fantasy sports contests are in fact illegal gambling under Alabama law.”

    In Alabama, an activity constitutes illegal gambling if a person stakes something of value on a contest of chance, even when skill is involved, in order to win a prize.

    In paid daily fantasy sports contests, players create a “fantasy roster” of real-life athletes. Each athlete is awarded points based on his or her performance, and the “owners” of the teams with the highest scoring rosters win cash prizes.

    In Strange’s statement, he writes:

    There is, of course, a measure of skill involved in creating a fantasy roster. But in the end, contestants have no control over the performance of the players on their rosters. For example, a player could fall ill before a game, be injured in pre-game warm-ups, or miss a large portion of the game due to injury or equipment failure. All of these factors, and many more, are outside the control of a fantasy sports player. Thus, the results of paid daily fantasy sports contests depend to a large degree on chance. This is the very definition of gambling under Alabama law.
    Alabama now joins 11 other states in which paid daily fantasy sports contests have been declared illegal.

    DraftKings and FanDuel have until May 1, 2016, to cease offering paid daily fantasy sports contests in Alabama.

    Copyright 2016 WAFF. All rights reserved.

    Well, it’s been fun but looks like it is coming to an end.

    Support DFS in Alabama HERE: https://fantasysportsforall.com/connect/alabama/

  • MikeSos760

    Another one bites dust. Another one bites dust…….

    All these states saying it is illegal is a bummer. Prize pools keep dropping, and will keep dropping if more states continue to fall. Lottery is gambling too, but you don’t see that being illegal. I don’t get it. smh

  • deejones49

    There goes my retirement plan

  • dailysportreport

    @MikeSos760 said...

    Another one bites dust. Another one bites dust…….

    All these states saying it is illegal is a bummer. Prize pools keep dropping, and will keep dropping if more states continue to fall. Lottery is gambling too, but you don’t see that being illegal. I don’t get it. smh

    The gov’t runs the lottery…

  • ComicFx

    Like every state before them, they just want a cut of the action, get them regulation fees rolling in and like lotto State govt won’t care so much.
    Sucks, good luck Bama.

  • Olhausen

    This is getting ridiculous.

  • unageo09

    We don’t have the lottery here. We have to go to Tennessee or Georgia or Florida to get lotto tickets. Maybe they’ll come up with some sort of compromise to keep it going.

  • intimadator2007

    Dam who’s next , with the way things are going we’ll know next week.

  • Olhausen

    Judging by this thread Alabama must not have many Dfs players. And that sucks for anyone from that state because that means the big two won’t put up a fight I would think. It’s damn shame what’s happening to our rights in this country. Land of the free my ass!

  • TeamUPS

    :( I am crushed. Alabama just made it illegal. I have been playing for about 3 years now and now my favorite has been stripped away.

  • ballabal

    Looks like the states are falling one by one like dominoes. We are losing FD here in Texas May 1st. I don’t know how much longer this will last. I am so sick of politicians imposing their views of morality on everyone – and not with just DFS. The stock market is just as much a game of chance when day trading. Are they going to outlaw that too?

    We need to throw the bums out. Elections matter. Get out and vote.

  • MikeSos760

    @ballabal said...

    Looks like the states are falling one by one like dominoes. We are losing FD here in Texas May 1st. I don’t know how much longer this will last. I am so sick of politicians imposing their views of morality on everyone – and not with just DFS. The stock market is just as much a game of chance when day trading. Are they going to outlaw that too?

    We need to throw the bums out. Elections matter. Get out and vote.

    What do you mean you are losing FD on May 1st in Texas? Haven’t been keeping up to date with the news.

    If Texas falls then that is very bad, because besides California you won’t be able to play DFS in the huge population states like NY, Texas, etc, so tourney sizes will keep falling and new players won’t be around to help keep the ecosystem alive.

  • ballabal

    @MikeSos760 said...

    What do you mean you are losing FD on May 1st in Texas? Haven’t been keeping up to date with the news.

    If Texas falls then that is very bad, because besides California you won’t be able to play DFS in the huge population states like NY, Texas, etc, so tourney sizes will keep falling and new players won’t be around to help keep the ecosystem alive.

    I got this email a little over a month ago from FD (So there will be no more paid contests so why bother). Unless there is new news about this I haven’t heard. I also heard that DK was suing the Texas AG over this. But I have heard nothing more about this either.

    Dear Texas Fans:

    We have some important news to share regarding our contests for users in Texas. As you may know, fantasy sports was founded in Texas more than four decades ago. In 2009, FanDuel was formed at Austin’s SXSW Interactive Festival, paving the way for millions of sports fans to play fantasy in a whole new way. We are proud of the business we’ve built and our ability to innovate fantasy sports and create a new product that fans love.

    We believe FanDuel has always been legal in Texas and strongly disagree with the recent advisory opinion of the Attorney General, but understand that the laws surrounding fantasy sports require clarity. As such, we have worked with the Texas Attorney General to map out our plan to wind down our operations in Texas, suspending paid contests on May 1st. The Texas legislature will be in session in 2017 and we will work to pass legislation that protects fantasy sports and consumers so that we can bring our paid contests back to Texans as soon as possible.

    In the meantime:

    - Users will still be able to participate in free head to head challenges and leagues after May 1st.

    - As has always been the case, users in Texas can withdraw their funds at anytime. Users can also play FanDuel when visiting other states in which FanDuel continues to operate paid-contests.

    Please follow us at www.FantasySportsForAll.com and let your lawmakers know that you support fantasy sports. We have more than 20+ bills in state legislatures across the country that safeguard fantasy sports and provide consumer protections. It is our intent to work with the Texas legislature to pass a similar bill in 2017, when back in session. Your support will help ensure that all fantasy companies are able to continue to operate in Texas.

    Thank you for your support,

    FanDuel

  • MikeSos760

    @ballabal said...

    I got this email a little over a month ago from FD (So there will be no more paid contests so why bother). Unless there is new news about this I haven’t heard. I also heard that DK was suing the Texas AG over this. But I have heard nothing more about this either.

    Dear Texas Fans:

    We have some important news to share regarding our contests for users in Texas. As you may know, fantasy sports was founded in Texas more than four decades ago. In 2009, FanDuel was formed at Austin’s SXSW Interactive Festival, paving the way for millions of sports fans to play fantasy in a whole new way. We are proud of the business we’ve built and our ability to innovate fantasy sports and create a new product that fans love.

    We believe FanDuel has always been legal in Texas and strongly disagree with the recent advisory opinion of the Attorney General, but understand that the laws surrounding fantasy sports require clarity. As such, we have worked with the Texas Attorney General to map out our plan to wind down our operations in Texas, suspending paid contests on May 1st. The Texas legislature will be in session in 2017 and we will work to pass legislation that protects fantasy sports and consumers so that we can bring our paid contests back to Texans as soon as possible.

    In the meantime:

    - Users will still be able to participate in free head to head challenges and leagues after May 1st.

    - As has always been the case, users in Texas can withdraw their funds at anytime. Users can also play FanDuel when visiting other states in which FanDuel continues to operate paid-contests.

    Please follow us at www.FantasySportsForAll.com and let your lawmakers know that you support fantasy sports. We have more than 20+ bills in state legislatures across the country that safeguard fantasy sports and provide consumer protections. It is our intent to work with the Texas legislature to pass a similar bill in 2017, when back in session. Your support will help ensure that all fantasy companies are able to continue to operate in Texas.

    Thank you for your support,

    FanDuel

    That’s a huge blow to the player pool to lose a state the size of Texas.

  • Olhausen

    @MikeSos760 said...

    That’s a huge blow to the player pool to lose a state the size of Texas.

    Yeah they announced that a few weeks ago. Honestly this AG in Alabama doing the whole cease and desist thing really has me worried many more states are going down soon. It’s just such a crock of shit!

  • unageo09

    http://yellowhammernews.com/sports/alabama-lawmaker-weigh-booming-fantasy-sports/

    According to the article over 700,000 Alabamians , roughly 20% of the population over the age of 18, played daily fantasy sports last year.

  • keithj31216

    I recently moved to Alabama and this is a kick in the pants….the governor is an infidel and they want to stop DFS, but the Indians can run the casinos with no issues….WTF

  • apb540

    It appears some individuals in this country have a much different idea of “freedom” than myself. The idea of debating whether or not DFS should be legal is a silly concept in the first place in a free society. Unfortunately there hasn’t been a truly free society at any point in recorded history, so let’s get some top-notch lawyers and lobbyists on this mess FD & DK!

  • tmspriggs

    Marijuana is illegal in most places in this country. That should tell you all you need to know about how real the idea of “freedom” lives in the USA.

  • bkhicks66

    A question about the cease and desist….Can someone from Alabama continue to play if they have funds in their account and Fanduel will not accept anymore funds? or does Fanduel shutout players from Alabama from entering contests?

  • kellykip

    @unageo09 said...

    There is, of course, a measure of skill involved in creating a fantasy roster. But in the end, contestants have no control over the performance of the players on their rosters. For example, a player could fall ill before a game, be injured in pre-game warm-ups, or miss a large portion of the game due to injury or equipment failure. All of these factors, and many more, are outside the control of a fantasy sports player. Thus, the results of paid daily fantasy sports contests depend to a large degree on chance. This is the very definition of gambling under Alabama law.

    I agree with the AG – he has a population to protect, and a majority of people putting up their money will in fact fail. There are also things outside the control of the person putting up the money, such as floods, a radical shift in shopper’s preferences due to mistiming the marketplace, hurricanes, fires, or a Home Depot opening up across town that can wipe out your investment before you even have a chance to see it perform; therefore, I have to agree with AGs across the country; opening a new small business should in fact be illegal.

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  • ballabal

    @kellykip said...

    I agree with the AG – he has a population to protect, and a majority of people putting up their money will in fact fail. There are also things outside the control of the person putting up the money, such as floods, a radical shift in shopper’s preferences due to mistiming the marketplace, hurricanes, fires, or a Home Depot opening up across town that can wipe out your investment before you even have a chance to see it perform; therefore, I have to agree with AGs across the country; opening a new small business should in fact be illegal.

    I agree. However, on a different subject, I can do all of the research – technical and fundamental on a company, the market, economics, etc and make a stock or options trade on my online broker. Also, note the broker charges commissions and fees on all trades. I could have a great trade (like a LU) set up. Then something happens like a terrorist attack, bad earnings, someone on Fed Reserve board says something, etc and my trade loses money. Sometimes thousands of dollars. I have seen the way some people trade and it is like gambling. I guess all of the AG’s need to deem this illegal and close down all of the online brokers to protect us.

    I am just being a smart Alec here – but I see that many things have the element of chance.

  • wolfjb1

    With that whole governor being impeached thing, you’d think the AG of Alabama would have better things to focus on this week. Like whether it’s Constitutional to impeach a governor for lying about an affair. But the Indians have casinos in Alabama, so you can be sure that their lobbyists have been hounding him for a while.

  • Olhausen

    Looks like tennesse is next. I guess if the site of fan duels headquarters can go down then the state where Rotogrinders is located can also go down. I really don’t think Dfs is going to survive.

  • cAUmberlandtiger8

    @wolfjb1 said...

    With that whole governor being impeached thing, you’d think the AG of Alabama would have better things to focus on this week. Like whether it’s Constitutional to impeach a governor for lying about an affair. But the Indians have casinos in Alabama, so you can be sure that their lobbyists have been hounding him for a while.

    I lived in Alabama 27 years before moving to Tennessee in 2014. Alabama is run by the Drummond, Alabama Power and the Porch Creek Indians. The older I get the more cynical Ive become about politics.

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