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  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    Hello!

    This is Dan Barbarisi, author of Dueling with Kings, the recently-released book about the world of DFS. In DFS itself, I’m known as Pimpbotlove. The nice people at Rotogrinders have asked me to do an AMA here, so if anyone has questions on the book itself, the book writing process, the industry, my journey, my time covering professional baseball, or whatever, fire away, and I’ll do my best to answer them over the week!

    A few basics about me:
    -Born NYC, raised Rye Brook, NY. Undergrad Tufts U., Grad school Brown U.
    -Spent 2001-2008 as political & crime reporter in Providence, RI, at the Providence Journal
    -Started covering the Boston Red Sox in the fall of 2008
    -Covered the NY Yankees for the Wall St. Journal from 2010-2015
    -Quit the WSJ in Dec. 2015 to work on Dueling with Kings full time.
    -DWK covers the period from May of 2015 thru the announcement of the DK/FD merger, Nov. 2016. Buy it here: https://t.co/Q5iI7nnDOy
    -Born July 2, 1979, the very same day as Jumbo Joe Thornton, though he looks like he could be my dad.

    We will randomly select 10 people (who ask a question) to receive a copy of ‘Dueling with Kings’, so ask away!

  • Kp24

    Have you ventured into dfs golf at all? I was a casual fan who watched majors and such up until a few years ago when I discovered fantasy golf and have been a ravenous maniac ever since. Have you had that expirience staying up all night doing dfs homework and then daydreaming about your picks whilst at work etc haha

    So I guess my two questions are: have you played dfs golf and have you have moments of madness from your dfs research/homework?

  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @Kp24 said...

    Have you ventured into dfs golf at all? I was a casual fan who watched majors and such up until a few years ago when I discovered fantasy golf and have been a ravenous maniac ever since. Have you had that expirience staying up all night doing dfs homework and then daydreaming about your picks whilst at work etc haha

    So I guess my two questions are: have you played dfs golf and have you have moments of madness from your dfs research/homework?

    I’m very wary about playing DFS on sports I don’t know at ALL — and golf and NASCAR (MMA too!) certainly fit the bill. Being not even a casual golf fan, I’ve stayed away. I’d probably just pick Tiger Woods or Ben Hogan or something.

    Regarding DFS all-nighters, for sure! I remember one time where around 3 a.m., in bed, I decided I had come up with a whole new way of appreciating defensemen’s point contributions and why we could take advantage of that on DK vs FD and how their floors were higher than people were appreciating and the sites were pricing in etc etc etc and I got out of bed at like 430 and started doing all kinds of terribad hand-math on scraps of paper and calculating all this junk, and then I made a whole presentation to Beep when he finally woke up at like noon. And he basically was like, “yeah, but the +EV move is still to do it this other way.” And showed me why. And I was all sad.

    But all about the DFS day (and night) dreaming!

  • tristanwolf

    @saahilsud said...

    Who do you like more MaxDalury or SaahilSud?

    This is funny. 😀

  • foxymongrel

    Do you play as much season long as daily fantasy, and do you see a possible expansion at all in that market?

  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @foxymongrel said...

    Do you play as much season long as daily fantasy, and do you see a possible expansion at all in that market?

    In the pre-DFS days, I was a semi-serious SL player — played in baseball leagues with pro baseball writers, which as you can imagine are pretty competitive. But once DFS arrived, I kinda lost my fire for it, which I think is probably a common scenario. Still do the same leagues, but don’t devote nearly as much time and kinda half-arse it. I don’t see SL really having a huge surge at this point, I think it’ll happily chug along; it won’t be REPLACED by DFS as some predicted in the 2015 era, but I think both can happily co-exist, largely serving different markets.

  • SA16

    What do you think of Sabres writer Mike Harrington?

  • nitejoker

    I want to say, I really enjoyed your book. It was a great read and very interesting to learn more about DFS, sharks and the legal side of things. It also made me think more about how to approach DFS as a whole and looking for things that will make my lineups unique, while trying to be a step ahead of the competition.

  • skimbad

    As a fellow Jumbo, I could not believe seeing your bio here! Would appreciate a copy!!

  • Gopackgo30

    Can’t recommend the book enough. Like others said, its hard to put down. Fascinating story!!

  • Zieg30

    I’m about 55% of the way through your book. It’s an interesting read.

    What was your reaction to FD’s change in NHL scoring? Love it? Hate it? Ambivalent?

    I, like many others, never liked the +/- stat, but at least it added legit variety between the two sites’ NHL offerings, so I miss it.

  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @Zieg30 said...

    I’m about 55% of the way through your book. It’s an interesting read.

    What was your reaction to FD’s change in NHL scoring? Love it? Hate it? Ambivalent?

    I, like many others, never liked the +/- stat, but at least it added legit variety between the two sites’ NHL offerings, so I miss it.

    I didn’t like +/- much, so I kept most of my action on DK. Then, when they changed over, I was really hopeful about FD hockey, but I’ve been disappointed in the pricing. Defenseman pricing is too soft (or at least was last time I was on it, which is a couple months back now) so it’s too easy to roster a Burns or Karlsson too often, making for a few too many super-teams for my liking. The great thing about DFS is having to make hard decisions; I found that FD hockey forced too few of them.

  • bettercallsteve

    I just finished reading it last night and also recommend it. The chapters describing the live finals were so good I flew through those parts in anticipation of what’s coming next. Can you elaborate on your dislike or preference to not use fantasy cruncher or any lineup building tool you used to use “brute force” for max entering smaller buy in gpps. I understand you play higher dollar gpps with lower entries and have great success with 3-5 lineups and that resonates with me. I don’t know if I’m in the exact same boat but as far nba goes I seem to do much better playing a smaller amount of lineups in the higher buyin gpps but when I try to max enter the four point play setting exposures I admittedly struggle with it.

    The fatigue factor and mental hurdles you described is real and not easy to ignore. When I read that part it opened my eyes a little bit and made me feel better cause I thought it was just me since I live in my own world. Since I don’t plan on playing mlb dfs due to knowing nothing about baseball, this upcoming break when nba is over will feel pretty refreshing and hopefully I can recharge my brain and get better at dfs without actually playing it as much.

    Is looking at the optimal lineup for a finished slate being results oriented when trying to consider what the most optimal correlation or stacks of players would have been for that slate?

  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @bettercallsteve said...

    I just finished reading it last night and also recommend it. The chapters describing the live finals were so good I flew through those parts in anticipation of what’s coming next. Can you elaborate on your dislike or preference to not use fantasy cruncher or any lineup building tool you used to use “brute force” for max entering smaller buy in gpps. I understand you play higher dollar gpps with lower entries and have great success with 3-5 lineups and that resonates with me. I don’t know if I’m in the exact same boat but as far nba goes I seem to do much better playing a smaller amount of lineups in the higher buyin gpps but when I try to max enter the four point play setting exposures I admittedly struggle with it.

    The fatigue factor and mental hurdles you described is real and not easy to ignore. When I read that part it opened my eyes a little bit and made me feel better cause I thought it was just me since I live in my own world. Since I don’t plan on playing mlb dfs due to knowing nothing about baseball, this upcoming break when nba is over will feel pretty refreshing and hopefully I can recharge my brain and get better at dfs without actually playing it as much.

    Is looking at the optimal lineup for a finished slate being results oriented when trying to consider what the most optimal correlation or stacks of players would have been for that slate?

    Rather than looking at the optimal lineup, I often look at what players I respect did, and try to understand why they made certain decisions, versus the ones I made. The “optimal” lineup, certainly in a giant GPP, can often feel a little more luckboxed than I’d like. But smart players are always worth watching.

    Regarding things like big lineup generators, that’s just mostly a different game than I play. I understand that there’s a true value and skill to things like exposure% and how heavily you want to be in a certain guy and fading others at the MME level, but it’s just not for me. Frankly, I think there’s still a personal-connection/plant your flag element to fantasy to me, in the way that SL fantasy still does better. Besides which, having 100+ lineups feels like WORK. Having a few seems fun, and closer to the point of the whole thing. My two cents.

    And yes, breaks are important! Take them!

  • pimpbotlove

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • x4

      2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    So, with a week of this in the books, just wanted to thank everyone who came in with questions. It’s a lot of fun to get to have some interesting & intelligent back-and-forth here, and really, really gratifying for me to get to talk to people who want to talk about the book.

    RG will be selecting the winners and sending them signed copies of Dueling with Kings; thanks much to them for hosting this and for also hosting me in the offices on Friday! Man Nashville is a great town.

    If you’ve already read DWK and liked it, the best thing you can do for a new author like me is leave a good Amazon review; because of the way Amazon’s algorithm works, it really pushes the book out to other people. So, if you dug it, do me a solid and leave a nice one!

    https://www.amazon.com/Dueling-Kings-Get-Rich-Promise-Fantasy/dp/1501146173

    Thanks much again!

  • SmartWater

    Marketing and Social Media Manager

    A big thanks to Dan for being awesome and doing this for us!

    I will be selecting the winners and DMing them shortly. Hope you enjoyed this :)

  • SmartWater

    Marketing and Social Media Manager

    Congrats to the following people who have won a FREE signed copy of ‘Dueling with Kings’!

    supaflix, Frankthetank1084, tgowen, WidumBoise, VertigoLemming, Kp24, SA16, skimbad, dubchr7, BigSnack

    I will be DMing you shortly.

  • Santos_Polanco

    What time frame does Beepimajeep claim the record for consuming 15 Hershey Kisses is completed in?
    A. 1 minute
    B. 1 second
    C. 10 minutes
    D. 1 hour
    E. None of the above

  • MrMadness001

    Do you still hang out with BeepImaJeep from time to time?

    I have the book and started reading it this past Friday and I’m around the 9th Chapter. Very interesting stuff. I am tempted to skip ahead to see if you were able to break through to a big win of your own at this point.

  • notoriousjdd

    Excellent book, couldn’t put it down.

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