STRATEGY FORUM

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  • kittymanportrait

    I notice on Amazon there are more and more books on DFS popping up, but after reading the reviews, it seems that outside of the Bales books very few offer quality, well-researched, and actionable information. Most of the books seem to be outright fraudulent rip-offs, and the books that have good reviews have only a few of them that seem like very fishy second-hand accounts such as “I bought this book for my boyfriend and he liked it, or for my friend and it helped him,” etc. In other words it appears the books and reviews share the same author. So outside of the Bales books, has anyone read any other DFS books they found to be worth the money and time?

  • Aniesdad

    The rotoacademy courses here on rotogrinders are an awesome way to get what your looking for. They have helped me a lot. I still read through them and buy new ones when I see a new course I like.

  • killab2482

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    i’d stick to the rotoacademy courses also. In DFS its tough to find evergreen content. The landscape is always changing and people are getting better by the second. With all that said, Bales books are as good as it gets in the space.

  • jkwasn01

    Roman Edmond (longbottoms) has a good read here,

    https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Fantasy-Football-World-Champion/dp/0997865202

  • PigskinaBlanket

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  • escot4

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    Well, I’m not a book… but I am bored waiting for the all-star break to end, so feel free to ask me some strategy questions and I can give you some tips. I only play NFL and NBA, tournaments only in both, so you can private message me some questions if those are areas you’re looking to improve in.

  • Garrincha67

    I will say read widely not just about DFS. I recommend these two books on forecasting and randomness highly.

    http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21666098-forecasting-talent-luckily-it-can-be-learned-unclouded-vision

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/books/review/Johnson-G-t.html

    These book lists compiled by Pinnacle to educate bettors are great too.

    https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/betting-strategy/influential-books-to-improve-your-betting

    https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/betting-strategy/improve-your-betting-with-these-five-books

    https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/betting-strategy/educate-your-betting-with-these-four-books

  • Garrincha67

    @escot4 said...

    Well, I’m not a book… but I am bored waiting for the all-star break to end, so feel free to ask me some strategy questions and I can give you some tips. I only play NFL and NBA, tournaments only in both, so you can private message me some questions if those are areas you’re looking to improve in.

    Congrats on you success Scott, listened to your interview on the perfect line-up pod, it was very informative and helpful. My question is a general one, I am playing on DK from the U.K so the NFL season that just completed was my first time learning about the NFL teams, the players and a learning curve playing NFL DFS. What do you recommend for us new to the sport we need improve on so as to have a less steep learning curve in next season’s NFL DFS ?

  • BeepImaJeep

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    Dueling with Kings! Comes out March 7, can listen to a 10 minute teaser here

    http://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Dueling-with-Kings/Daniel-Barbarisi/9781501146176

    Saahil, Underjones, Condia… this is a baller book!

  • escot4

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    @Garrincha67 said...

    Congrats on you success Scott, listened to your interview on the perfect line-up pod, it was very informative and helpful. My question is a general one, I am playing on DK from the U.K so the NFL season that just completed was my first time learning about the NFL teams, the players and a learning curve playing NFL DFS. What do you recommend for us new to the sport we need improve on so as to have a less steep learning curve in next season’s NFL DFS ?

    Thank you. If you’re brand new to the sport, I’d recommend watching a ton of NFL between now and next season. You could get NFL game pass and watch the condensed versions of a bunch of games. They usually take around 45 minutes each. Other than that, to be honest I’m having trouble relating to not knowing the teams and players well since I’ve followed the NFL very closely since I was a kid. The way I learned as a kid was usually through books of stats that I’d basically try to memorize. If I were new to it now, I’d probably watch highlight videos on youtube all day and night. Sometimes when I’m really bored during the offseason, I’ll go on Sporcle and do NFL trivia quizzes and try to finish in the 99th percentile… it’s boring, but it’s a part of my life.

  • kittymanportrait

    Thanks, Beep. I actually saw your nhl podcast yesterday on the rival site, which is what got me thinking about this.

  • kittymanportrait

    Actually thanks to everyone who posted so far, especially escot4 for volunteering your time and advice.

  • Bigo1

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    Wait a sec. Escot4, one of the top (if not the top) players around, offers to answer any questions. And he gets 1 question in 14 hours!!!!

    I have a few for you if you do not mind: – Outside of your NFL epic final win, have you seen the game getting much harder in the last 2 years? Is your RoI roughly the same (mine decreased by half within one year)? – Have you learnt other niche sports (Soccer, MMA,..) and do you see any future in them? – Have you switched your action towards more GPPs like most of the other pros? – Do you still dedicate the same amount of time to DFS?

    I would have tons of other Qs but I think you might get busier today with NBA and PGA back….

  • Aniesdad

    @Bigo1 said...

    Wait a sec. Escot4, one of the top (if not the top) players around, offers to answer any questions. And he gets 1 question in 14 hours!!!!

    I have a few for you if you do not mind: – Outside of your NFL epic final win, have you seen the game getting much harder in the last 2 years? Is your RoI roughly the same (mine decreased by half within one year)? – Have you learnt other niche sports (Soccer, MMA,..) and do you see any future in them? – Have you switched your action towards more GPPs like most of the other pros? – Do you still dedicate the same amount of time to DFS?

    I would have tons of other Qs but I think you might get busier today with NBA and PGA back….

    And this example is ultimately how you get better. Asking questions, taking advantage of opportunities to pick the brains of the best players in the world. One of the greatest features of Rotogrinders is the accessibility of the contributors and there willingness to share there insight and knowledge.

  • escot4

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    @Bigo1 said...

    Wait a sec. Escot4, one of the top (if not the top) players around, offers to answer any questions. And he gets 1 question in 14 hours!!!!

    I have a few for you if you do not mind: – Outside of your NFL epic final win, have you seen the game getting much harder in the last 2 years? Is your RoI roughly the same (mine decreased by half within one year)? – Have you learnt other niche sports (Soccer, MMA,..) and do you see any future in them? – Have you switched your action towards more GPPs like most of the other pros? – Do you still dedicate the same amount of time to DFS?

    I would have tons of other Qs but I think you might get busier today with NBA and PGA back….

    I did actually get PM questions from 4 different people if it makes a difference…

    I would say that the competition has gotten a lot stronger over the 2.5 years or so that I’ve been playing. Early on, you could just pick the players who seemed most likely to do well and they’d somehow be low-owned. Especially the obvious value plays like min-priced backups stepping into a starting role. Now those guys are often so highly owned that you have to seriously consider fading some of them. My ROI was great in 2014-15 NFL, bad (negative on the season) in 2015-16, and then this year great again. I did well in NBA each of my first 2 seasons, but I’ve gotten off to a slow start this year (didn’t really start until after week 17 of NFL) although it’s been way better lately and I’ve always done better after the all-star break.

    I haven’t tried any niche sports and probably couldn’t give insight into their futures, but I tried (and failed) MLB. I’m sure I could do better in baseball, but I’m really not a fan of it, so I can’t see myself getting to the highest level and probably won’t go back to it.

    I’m 100% GPPs. I was never very good at cash games anyway, so I’ve been mainly GPPs almost the whole time I’ve been playing DFS.

    Nowadays I dedicate more time to DFS overall (60-80 hours per week, but summers completely off). I probably take more slates off than most pros though. Only doing NBA right now, and I’ll play 5 days per week for the most part.

  • Bigo1

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    Thank you so much for your answers, it is greatly appreciated. And best of luck for the remaining NBA season!

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