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  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    So it’s once again time for the annual what are sites doing with their NHL product this year thread. FD has talked about either removing or at worst reducing the value of +/- along with the removal of positive points for penalties. As of right now they appear to be the same as last year. On DK they made a roster change in MLB that limited people to a max of 5 batters in a lineup. Is that going into effect in NHL as well? (no more than 5 skaters per team)

  • awilson45

    A 6 man stack works out if the team you’re stacking scores 5+ goals and the other games on the slate are relatively low scoring. I wouldn’t do it every night, but there are definitely occasions where a 6 man stack makes a ton of sense (if you’re going for a boom or bust GPP entry). As max said, if you plan on doing that in cash tho shoot me an inv

  • newynewstrom

    • x3

      2016 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    Scoring this year- from FD:
    G – 12
    A – 8
    Shot – 1.6
    PP Bonus: 0.5 (goals and assists)
    SH Bonus: 2
    Blocked Shots: 1.6

    Goalie:
    Win – 12
    Save – 0.8
    GA – -4
    Shut-out Bonus: 8
    No +/-

  • maxeernst

    @newynewstrom said...

    Scoring this year- from FD:
    G – 12
    A – 8
    Shot – 1.6
    PP Bonus: 0.5 (goals and assists)
    SH Bonus: 2
    Blocked Shots: 1.6

    Goalie:
    Win – 12
    Save – 0.8
    GA – -4
    Shut-out Bonus: 8
    No +/-

    According to…?

  • theseige

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • x2

      2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    Blocked shots? Puke

  • dude_abides7

    @newynewstrom said...

    Scoring this year- from FD:
    G – 12
    A – 8
    Shot – 1.6
    PP Bonus: 0.5 (goals and assists)
    SH Bonus: 2
    Blocked Shots: 1.6

    Goalie:
    Win – 12
    Save – 0.8
    GA – -4
    Shut-out Bonus: 8
    No +/-

    I hope this is a joke?

  • maxeernst

    We have no idea if this is true. I tweeted @ fanduel. Maybe others could as well?

    If true the changes are:
    No PIMs
    No +/-
    Added BS
    Added SH Bonus.
    Kept PP Bonus the same. (weird).
    Multiplied everything else x4

  • maxeernst

    OP PMed me email from FD. Changes seem legit. Asked FD and Dillinger for confirmation though.

    No more LW/RW

  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    So they are giving us a bonus on PPG? LOL WTF. It’s like making a TD scored from inside the Red zone worth more than ones scored from your own side of midfield. Least they got rid of PiMs and +/-

  • donkshow

    +/- was the one thing that differentiated FD from DK. Welp..

  • wisertime

    @theseige said...

    Blocked shots? Puke

    I agree. WTF is blocked shots? Geez, talk about a stupid stat to get points for. I hate the .5pt bonus for power play points. I would rather have kept the plus/minus or atleast get the extra .5pts for even strength points. I think the increase in points for goalie wins is a game changer. In GPPs, I never built my teams around goalies. I think I will have to adapt my goalie selection now.

  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    @wisertime said...

    think the increase in points for goalie wins is a game changer.

    They just 4x’d the points value, wins were 3pts and goals were 3pts now they are both 12pts

  • mberkowi

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @maxeernst said...

    No more LW/RW

    BOOOO!!!!!!!!

  • deejones49

    Only .5 for a PPG that needs to be corrected. You get 3 times more points for a blocked shot

  • mberkowi

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    If these are the real settings, the best part is they clearly forgot to either multiply PPP by 4 or remove it. No way it was intentionally 0.5 a point.

  • donkshow

    @mberkowi said...

    If these are the real settings, the best part is they clearly forgot to either multiply PPP by 4 or remove it. No way it was intentionally 0.5 a point.

    I would agree here. I know people don’t like the PPP bonus, which is their own opinion, but it is currently absolutely negligible.

    Nothing has come out “officially” from FD from what I can see, maybe they’re going to gauge initial reaction and adapt.. haha

  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    @donkshow said...

    but it is currently absolutely negligible

    It is till you lose a GPP by .4 lol

  • yountingly

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    • Ranked #50

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    This PP bonus has to be wrong. A BS would worth 3x plus more than a PPG. Fine with not a big pp bonus but then don’t BS so big.

    Do we think the SH bonus is goals and assists or just G.

  • ScottyP33

    Blocked shots? Really? Is Tortorella working at FD now? I am not a fan of the changes to the scoring system. Nor am I geeked about the fact that its just W and not LW/RW.
    Well, on second thought, at least no one at FD has to pay attention to when a LW plays for two weeks on the right side.

  • yountingly

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    @ScottyP33 said...

    Blocked shots? Really? Is Tortorella working at FD now? I am not a fan of the changes to the scoring system. Nor am I geeked about the fact that its just W and not LW/RW.
    Well, on second thought, at least no one at FD has to pay attention to when a LW plays for two weeks on the right side.

    great point about the W spots. I wish it was still LW RW but at least now I can line stack whenever and not get po’d when FD has a LW at C or RW instead of where he is currently playing, preventing you from stacking the line.

  • dude_abides7

    Fanduel, sure…we wanted the product to be better. But it was more for things like making sure Jamie Benn wasn’t listed as a D-man or for $3K. We wanted the larger slates to be the ones with the larger prize pools. So many times last year you had a $45K breakaway on a 4 game slate followed by a $30K Breakaway on a 10 game slate. The problem was you weren’t paying attention, not that we wanted an entire re-haul of the product. Puke.

    Fanduel (or should we call you DK lite) You’ve taken any of the excitement I had building up for this upcoming season on your site and ruined it before it started.

    You have eliminated pretty much the only things that made you unique from DK. So now you are basically DK for NHL. I mean, the Yahoo product is better than yours now. I might as well just move my action to there then.

    Blocked shots worth 4x a PPG? Really?

    “Curtis from Fanduel” thinks this will create larger prize pools. I wager it it will result in Fanduel mailing in the NHL season before the Allstar break.

  • kellykip

    @BlacknBlue said...

    One thing that always peaved me about fantasy hockey (including season long) was how players were given credit for PIMs as if it were a good thing. A very small percentage of penalties are, “good” penalties. The rest are just players making bad plays that hurt their team. It is very dumb to treat that as a positive in fantasy.

    Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous for a slew of end of game misconducts to decide DFS tourneys – especially love it when you fade a highly owned sniper due to solid research and game handicapping, only to have him get involved in taking a frustration matching minor with a misconduct at the end and letting all his DFS owners get bailed out.

    So in essence, you are hurt by correctly projecting he would have a bad game, which led to his frustration. There is no rational explanation for rewarding PIM in DFS that I can buy.

  • kellykip

    @BlacknBlue said...

    One thing that always peaved me about fantasy hockey (including season long) was how players were given credit for PIMs as if it were a good thing. A very small percentage of penalties are, “good” penalties. The rest are just players making bad plays that hurt their team. It is very dumb to treat that as a positive in fantasy.

    Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous for a slew of end of game misconducts to decide DFS tourneys – especially love it when you fade a highly owned sniper due to solid research and game handicapping, only to have him get involved in taking a frustration matching minor with a misconduct at the end and letting all his DFS owners get bailed out.

    So in essence, you are hurt by correctly projecting he would have a bad game, which led to his frustration. There is no rational explanation for rewarding PIM in DFS that I can buy.

  • donkshow

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Fanduel, sure…we wanted the product to be better. But it was more for things like making sure Jamie Benn wasn’t listed as a D-man or for $3K. We wanted the larger slates to be the ones with the larger prize pools. So many times last year you had a $45K breakaway on a 4 game slate followed by a $30K Breakaway on a 10 game slate. The problem was you weren’t paying attention, not that we wanted an entire re-haul of the product. Puke.

    Fanduel (or should we call you DK lite) You’ve taken any of the excitement I had building up for this upcoming season on your site and ruined it before it started.

    You have eliminated pretty much the only things that made you unique from DK. So now you are basically DK for NHL. I mean, the Yahoo product is better than yours now. I might as well just move my action to there then.

    Blocked shots worth 4x a PPG? Really?

    “Curtis from Fanduel” thinks this will create larger prize pools. I wager it it will result in Fanduel mailing in the NHL season before the Allstar break.

    A lot of good points here.

  • jakehari

    • 276

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    • Ranked #38

      RG Tiered Ranking

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    This is like FD adding full PPR and yardage bonuses for NFL. What is stopping people from moving completely over to DK?

  • ScottyP33

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Fanduel, sure…we wanted the product to be better. But it was more for things like making sure Jamie Benn wasn’t listed as a D-man or for $3K. We wanted the larger slates to be the ones with the larger prize pools. So many times last year you had a $45K breakaway on a 4 game slate followed by a $30K Breakaway on a 10 game slate. The problem was you weren’t paying attention, not that we wanted an entire re-haul of the product. Puke.

    Fanduel (or should we call you DK lite) You’ve taken any of the excitement I had building up for this upcoming season on your site and ruined it before it started.

    You have eliminated pretty much the only things that made you unique from DK. So now you are basically DK for NHL. I mean, the Yahoo product is better than yours now. I might as well just move my action to there then.

    Blocked shots worth 4x a PPG? Really?

    “Curtis from Fanduel” thinks this will create larger prize pools. I wager it it will result in Fanduel mailing in the NHL season before the Allstar break.

    I couldn’t agree more! Well said dude!

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