NHL FORUM

So it’s once again time for the annual what are sites doing with their NHL product this year thread. FD has talked about either removing or at worst reducing the value of +/- along with the removal of positive points for penalties. As of right now they appear to be the same as last year. On DK they made a roster change in MLB that limited people to a max of 5 batters in a lineup. Is that going into effect in NHL as well? (no more than 5 skaters per team)

Come on, let’s be somewhat realistic…

Salary constraints are generally going to prevent two first line/PP1 stacks from the same game. Or even if you can pull it off, you’l be -EV through the rest of your lineup.

Stacking a top line was already a stategy, but last year a full line stack would have included players like Melker Karelsson, just because he played with Thornton and Pavelski, with the hope to ride coattails on the +/- , maybe pick up a point, and save a few bucks.

I think this year it will take a little more thought…

I hope you’re right and if they adjusted salaries regularly by role on team you may be right but With the usually soft pricing and nights where a good teams backup is in goal it will be pretty easy to stack PPs.. Probably not the pittsbiurghs, SJ and Blackhawks to name a few but others lower priced..I mean I believe klingberg from Dallas and the rookie from philly were on 1st PP for a few weeks before they went above 3400

A little off topic but maybe not considering the changes. Are there any good NHL DFS podcasts? Not much content made for NHL it seems. Love the grinders stuff but also seems to lack a little in NHL

I’m not a huge fan of blocked shots and I did like +/- but I can adjust and deal with the addition/removal. The biggest problem I see with this scoring is that PPP are now worth more than even strength. It’s not a big deal from a DFS point of view, but as a hockey fan this bugs me.

If they want the .5 as a tiebreaker, they could either add it to even strength points instead of powerplay points, include a .5 GWG bonus, make blocks worth 1.5 instead of 1.6 etc etc. No shortage of options – they could just add/remove .1 to/from anything.

Overall, not thrilled with the new scoring but I can live with it.

Quoted the above post accidentally. Duck11 made some good points though

Well let’s just hope they adjust the PP scoring…they adjusted MLB scoring after season started so some hope…in no way should a PP goal be worth more than an even strength goal…that’s the only real mistake…others I can live with as well..

So the multiplier was 4, not 5, almost got it…

https://rotogrinders.com/threads/fd-out-to-lunch-with-nhl-as-usual-1223581?page=2#reply-1226779

The extra pp bonus doesn’t really bug me, personally. It’s such a small bonus that I probably won’t consider it in my lu construction. You’d have to get 3 power play points to receive a bonus that’s the same as just one blocked shot, or even just 1 SOG!

The new bonus would have added on average .22 points per game to the best pp player last year, Patrick Kane. With shots and blocks being 1.6 points, the variance in those two stats wipes out any pp bonus considerations in my mind.

Yeah it’s not the biggest deal but it just shows their lack of caring..in the long run that bonus won’t be difference in wins and losses, I mean we all want guys on PP anyway ..it’s just makes zero sense and they didn’t think it through …I guess the old hockey player in me hates it more than it making a difference DFS wise

Yeah, it bugs me more as a hockey fan than it does as a DFS player.

That doesn’t make it a good thing or a productive improvement. That said, I get your point. The larger variable here is the blocked shot stat. But for me that makes this whole thing that much worse.

Don’t disagree with you there.

Well good luck all this year in NHL…can’t wait for season to start since they took all my college sports away…

Sent a dm to draft kings about when NHL contests will be released. They replied “NHL salaries/ contests will be posted tomorrow”

I’m going to have to update my Intro to NHL DFS piece with the new FD scoring….https://rotogrinders.com/articles/an-introduction-to-daily-fantasy-hockey-1456693

I didn’t really think about it till now but I wonder if losing college sports will bring in a few more NHL fantasy players this season. Or maybe they all just go play NFL or NBA?

Yeah, that dude sucks at hockey. No grit.

Maybe a full rewrite starting with. To start your research look at the Vegas lines #fishneedtoswim

Stay tuned. I heard there’s something really big in the works.

I can’t tell if this is a joke or not.

Maybe RG can get Pierre Mcguire to talk about himself for an hour everyday

Excellent !!

Without re-reading through this thread, are there any changes to DK’s hockey scoring ? Looks like what I read the past couple days was only about FD changes.

I think a few pages back someone said that DK won’t have any changes.

Since FD decided they wanted to be DK and copied their scoring, I think DK will follow suit and adopt +/-.

(Sarcasm intended)

thanks.

All I know is that I’m stacking Hawks, Lightning and Senko every night!