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When: March 5-8

Where: Orlando, Fla

Course: Bay Hill Club and Lodge | A par 72 playing at 7419 yards

Last Year’s Winner: Francesco Molinari at -12

Last Year’s Cut: +1

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I believe so. He also has the best of it Thurs/Fri

Back to the drawing board.

To get even more technical here, anyone know if the back 9 or front 9 is more impacted by the winds? I’m seeing that the winds will probably start picking up in the middle of the very early am guys’ rounds (in the 9am to 10am timeframe), so would you want to start on the front or back?

Also, any better chance of streaking from 18 to 1, or from 9 to 10? That’s the Superstars angle

This is all for Showdown only, of course.

Why do I like Kevin Tway so much?

I don’t see many back/front strattled streaks happening period in these conditions. 9 and 18 are both tough par 4’s. Streaks will be rare, and streaks other than 4-6 (two par 5’s and a sub-400 par 4 with no water) are going to be so rare that it isn’t worth considering.

A quick scan through all 4 rounds of the Top 5 guys last year showed 0 back/front strattled streaks and only two times where a guy came up 1 birdie short of a back/front strattled streak. Moreover, I think there were only two total streaks among the Top 5 guys, one on 4-6 and one in the middle of the back nine. This is a great Showdown factor at some events, but not this one IMO.

Sounds good – thanks. Yea, I looked at holes some more and also seems like the front 9 would be more impacted by wind (more water holes), but hard to say if there’s really an edge there at all.

Different courses for different horses!.. but..

I love the type of course that a hole can be a 290 yard par 4.. and average over par (Riviera #10). Golf is an art form and I enjoy strategy more than the grip it and rip it, 500 yard par 4 / 240 yard par 3 type business.

I do agree about Bay Hill being not that exciting of a course. I’ve gone a few times and there is water on a number of holes and plenty bunkers.. but beyond that it’s all in front of you.

Tee to Green is my best bet for a stat to focus in on.

I disagree
High ball flight and loves wet/soft conditions; he’s not your typical European – in fact he is the exact opposite and that’s why he has had more success in the US than almost every other European. The courses in the US are typically over watered and lush – again the exact opposite of most European courses.

I always thought the US Open would be tough for him to win but he won at an uncharacteristically soft and gettable US Open course – excerpt below from Round 1 summary that year (note the soft conditions comment).

First round. Thursday, June 16, 2011
Overnight rain softened the fairways and greens and allowed for lower-than-average scoring for the first round of a U.S. Open. The man to take greatest advantage was Rory McIlroy He carded a bogey-free 65 to sit at six-under-par, three ahead of next best.

Rory did the same thing at the PGA Championship at Kiawah in Round 3 playing well in the rain and then again the next day in soft conditions to run away with it. The guy is world class on any given day and one of the best drivers of the golf ball ever but the real difference maker is that he excels as a high ball hitting mudder in soft conditions.

should we stack all 6 golfers from the morning wave?

Do you have a link to tee times and pairings?

I didn’t think they were out yet, but I gazoogled.

https://www.pgatour.com/tournaments/arnold-palmer-invitational-presented-by-mastercard/tee-times.html
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https://www.pgatour.com/leaderboard.html

I agree that Xander is a little better on other surfaces. But those raw numbers can be misleading because they don’t account for factors such as strength of field. After correcting for a bunch of things, I have him as only 1/5 of a stroke worse on Bermuda. He played well on Bermuda at the 2017/2019 tour championship and also at the 2019/2020 Tournament of Champions. Per OWGR, those are among the very best tournaments in his career.

Thanks fellas.

The early MKF Golf action for first round is pretty disappointing maybe it will change tomorrow afternoon. 5/5 action in any scenario is only 12X and max bet of 20.00

google hasn’t hit Canada yet

Fowler Leish and Bryson all in the PM, I’m for it, hopefully a lot of people play the wind angle and I can get them at a little lower % than what they woulda been

One could argue that OWGR is awful, but I do agree with you on adjusting for strength of field. Xander will probably finish well here if he keeps his mental game strong. He looks like he has gotten frustrated lately when his short game isn’t going well for him. He’s used to chipping everything in from off the green in past years.

It’s working it’s way across from West to East; I’m good but Hustlin’ is still waiting for the Beta Launch….

Can anyone with FN give me early ownership projections on Brooks?

It should change to 15x soon since tee times are out. I’m waiting for the happy hour payouts tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkL9yCztRQ
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Brooks 5.2%own

Yep, always worth waiting for Wednesday Happy Hour for the full tourney/day 1 bets. They pay better even though $20 is frustratingly the max. I’d love to throw $50 for $1k on some 5/5’s.

anybody have an early consensus for the top owned guys and their %? im thinking rory is obvious but would like to know the next few