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  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    … and why? Other than Libertarian which is a no brainer.

    Why Democrats: Less likely to care about what goes on in your living room and bedroom.

    Why Not D: Fair amount of Nanny Staters and “Gambling Hurts Poor and Minorities and Vulnerable”, etc.

    Why Republican: Has a sizable “live and let live” group with libertarian bend.

    Why Not R: Party is dominated by moral crusaders who like to tell you where to spend your money and what you can and can’t do in the privacy of your own home.

    Want to know what everyone’s thoughts are and will DFS ever come up in political conversations. Not trying to create a sidetrack of other issues just how it relates to DFS.

  • sethayates

    @PJGuin23 said...

    … and why? Other than Libertarian which is a no brainer.

    Why Democrats: Less likely to care about what goes on in your living room and bedroom.

    Why Not D: Fair amount of Nanny Staters and “Gambling Hurts Poor and Minorities and Vulnerable”, etc.

    Why Republican: Has a sizable “live and let live” group with libertarian bend.

    Why Not R: Party is dominated by moral crusaders who like to tell you where to spend your money and what you can and can’t do in the privacy of your own home.

    Want to know what everyone’s thoughts are and will DFS ever come up in political conversations. Not trying to create a sidetrack of other issues just how it relates to DFS.

    I think you are painting with too broad of a brush. Politicians in either party can easily be bought. Neither party has an official stance on this so at an individual level politicians are likely to vote based on who supported their campaign.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @sethayates said...

    I think you are painting with too broad of a brush. Politicians in either party can easily be bought. Neither party has an official stance on this so at an individual level politicians are likely to vote based on who supported their campaign.

    Question then becomes where will the money flow? Excellent point.

  • dp47

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    TRUMP

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @dp47 said...

    TRUMP

    Unless offered at his casinos the answer from him would likely be a no.

  • AtGame7

    Please tell me your vote next November will revolve around bigger issues than DFS, please.

  • rotokevin

    2014 RG Bowling Co-Champion, CPA & DFS Tax Guru

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    @AtGame7 said...

    Please tell me your vote next November will revolve around bigger issues than DFS, please.

    Trick question – there are no issues bigger than DFS. :-)

  • BreakingBacon

    The one that leaves us alone.

  • ncbobcats

    I try to avoid political topics because it’s a no win situation, but I do have one small question. Didn’t’ the poker sites go down under the Democrats.

  • sellthenews

    @ncbobcats said...

    Didn’t’ the poker sites go down under the Democrats

    The UIGEA was passed in October 2006, right before the GOP lost congress. Black Friday was 2011, but that was just enforcing the law. 2006 is when PartyPoker left the US.

  • AtGame7

    @ncbobcats said...

    I try to avoid political topics because it’s a no win situation, but I do have one small question. Didn’t’ the poker sites go down under the Democrats.

    Yes and no. “Black Friday” was under the watch of Dems, but the UIGEA was passed in 06.

  • DillingerFour

    FD Rep - DFBMeeMee Champ (x2)

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    @AtGame7 said...

    Yes and no. “Black Friday” was under the watch of Dems, but the UIGEA was passed in 06.

    And UIGEA had nothing to do with a vote along party lines… it was a select few people sneaking something through.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @AtGame7 said...

    Please tell me your vote next November will revolve around bigger issues than DFS, please.

    Chill. Of course they are. DFS is relative piss in the wind on the grand scheme of voting for me. This thread was politics and DFS, not abortion, taxes and border walls. Was never intended to piss anyone off just get a conversation going.

    Both parties have their pros and cons on this. Definitely bipartisan either way.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @DillingerFour said...

    And UIGEA had nothing to do with a vote along party lines… it was a select few people sneaking something through.

    Agreed. RAWA almost snuck through in similar fashion last year albeit GOP led with some Dem support and not just normally conservative ones either.

  • thepacificocean

    Get this conversation out of here. You are right about one thing though, libertarians are “no brainers”…. literally. Can’t believe that anyone would even make political considerations regarding DFS, about DFS.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @thepacificocean said...

    Get this conversation out of here. You are right about one thing though, libertarians are “no brainers”…. literally. Can’t believe that anyone would even make political considerations regarding DFS, about DFS.

    As we witnessed in Washington State, it does matter. It is a consideration for me albeit a small one. I find myself wanting to see members of my own party primaried because of it not just for DFS and iGaming but their general messed up thought process.

    I hope you live in a state where a blanket iGaming ban isn’t under consideration. It was in mine with 7 sponsors but didn’t even get past committee.

  • AtGame7

    @DillingerFour said...

    And UIGEA had nothing to do with a vote along party lines… it was a select few people sneaking something through.

    Correct, if memory serves Kyl, Frist and Leach. They were all Republicans (again, if memory serves) while Black Friday was under Dem rule.

    My point was, both parties are elbow deep in regulation.

  • DillingerFour

    FD Rep - DFBMeeMee Champ (x2)

    • Blogger of the Month

    @AtGame7 said...

    Correct, if memory serves Kyl, Frist and Leach. They were all Republicans (again, if memory serves) while Black Friday was under Dem rule.

    My point was, both parties are elbow deep in regulation.

    So I guess the take-away from this discussion is study up on your candidates no matter what party they’re in. In issues such as these, parties are often divided and the candidate you might not expect to be voting for, could be the one supporting an issue you care about.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @DillingerFour said...

    So I guess the take-away from this discussion is study up on your candidates no matter what party they’re in. In issues such as these, parties are often divided and the candidate you might not expect to be voting for, could be the one supporting an issue you care about.

    Yup! And I’ve said a million times to Gen Xers and Millenials Social Security and Medicare are untouchable but student loan interest rates can be jacked up to 20% before anyone gets motivated. The attitude of “Meh, who cares?” gets situations like WA State where you have to convince dinosaurs why DFS isn’t so bad.

  • Yukerboy

    • Blogger of the Month

    Student loan interest is a tax on the willing. I’m all for taxes on the willing.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @Yukerboy said...

    Student loan interest is a tax on the willing. I’m all for taxes on the willing.

    State Lotteries are (gambling) a tax on the poor. Oh wait. Do they require skill? And is there a “house” per se? But DFS and poker are just God awful and immoral!

  • Yukerboy

    • Blogger of the Month

    State lotteries are a tax on the willing. I’m all for taxes on the willing.

    The house’s cut on lotteries is much higher than any rake DFS comes up with.

    DFS and poker are neither immoral or God awful. The Puritan/Armenian view of sin and immorality is man made and not Biblical. Telling your child there’s a tooth fairy is a far worse act than gambling according to the Bible, but the majority of “Christians” go by what the pastor teaches than go by what the Bible actually says.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @Yukerboy said...

    State lotteries are a tax on the willing. I’m all for taxes on the willing.

    The house’s cut on lotteries is much higher than any rake DFS comes up with.

    DFS and poker are neither immoral or God awful. The Puritan/Armenian view of sin and immorality is man made and not Biblical. Telling your child there’s a tooth fairy is a far worse act than gambling according to the Bible, but the majority of “Christians” go by what the pastor teaches than go by what the Bible actually says.

    Hahahha. I was joking about being immoral.

    The lotteries are an excellent argument to counter any anti DFS one any time. The rake is 50% or higher as opposed to 10% Your playing against the public not a “house.”

    I’ve participated in politics in the past. It’s all about money, who you know and what the Ward leaders or bosses want. No fan of Comcast but their clout should be extremely helpful in defending the industry. But Sheldon Adelson holds a lot of clout as well and could bluge on DFS if his legislation goes the wrong way.

  • Redskins4

    Democrats want to limit the size of soda cups people can buy (even though I only drink water, tea, and milk I still think it’s a joke to try and tell people what they can and can not do).

    Vote for Donald Trump, he supports American business and jobs. And, if he were to use his presidency to help his one Casino…. that would be a crime and he would get impeached. No way that happens.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @Redskins4 said...

    Democrats want to limit the size of soda cups people can buy (even though I only drink water, tea, and milk I still think it’s a joke to try and tell people what they can and can not do).

    Vote for Donald Trump, he supports American business and jobs. And, if he were to use his presidency to help his one Casino…. that would be a crime and he would get impeached. No way that happens.

    Not all Democrats favor the Nanny State.

  • thepacificocean

    Please, if Trump cared about American jobs, he wouldn’t be babbling about the border and China and trying to convince us that “The Mexicans and Chinese are taking our jobs”. Instead he’d be telling us the truth: That rich men like him are giving our jobs to the Mexicans and Chinese because profit is more important than country; he’d be telling us that we only have a border problem because we have a rich men giving jobs to immigrants problem.

    There’s a million ways to get in this country, but only one reason to come and one to stay: Rich men like Trump will give you a job.

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