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  • poonwhipped1

    This is my second attempt. FAN DUEL when are you going to release the list of those DFS accounts that you’ve approved for scripting as well as those accounts you have denied?

  • budfox6

    @Ryazan said...

    I have no issue with any of you either, but I am telling you, I only focus on my lineups and my strategy, and i win. Others using scripts and winning more than me doesn’t affect me, and you shouldn’t let it affect you. No one is forcing anyone to post h2hs, and I’m not sure why it’s any of anyone’s business who is allowed t use scripts and who isn’t, it’s like you are trying to be dfs cops and catch people red handed instead of focusing on having fun/making money

    Amen Sister.

  • poonwhipped1

    @tonytone1908 said...

    If you think FD is going to give you a list of anything, well, you can wish in one hand….

    Seriously, who do you think you are?

    Just a regular guy with some questions…is it wrong? Or should I just shut up? Build Better Line ups? etc. etc. Because this isn’t about building better lineups. It is about cleaning up all the BS that both sites are doing. I want DFS to remain legal, but the way things have been going with each growing scandal…just how much longer with States AG remain quiet?

  • Ryazan

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    poonwhipped, there are no scandals going on. The first “scandal” was a DK employee making a timing mistake in posting his weekly article. This current “scandal” is not even about cheating to win, it’s about selecting opponents in a fast manner. It’s not even a real problem. It could have been a misunderstanding between fanduel and kcannon because he may have thought scripts were allowed for everything, and didn’t read the fine print. There is no scandal.

    While everyone is so busy freaking out over a fake scandal, I have won 12K in MLB playoffs the last 3 days, and I am not worried about others and what they do to win. How bout that eh??

  • tonytone1908

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    Just a regular guy with some questions…is it wrong? Or should I just shut up? Build Better Line ups? etc. etc. Because this isn’t about building better lineups. It is about cleaning up all the BS that both sites are doing. I want DFS to remain legal, but the way things have been going with each growing scandal…just how much longer with States AG remain quiet?

    So what would having a list of names do for you? Is it going to affect the lineups you build? Is it going to increase your chances of winning? What exactly is it going to accomplish for you?

  • Johnnytex

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    This is my second attempt. FAN DUEL when are you going to release the list of those DFS accounts that you’ve approved for scripting as well as those accounts you have denied?

    I agree when? Bye approvals will all be sharks

  • poonwhipped1

    Transparency, I would like to know who is running scripts and who isn’t. IF the script users can set up their script to gobble up h2h as soon as they are posted then WHY can’t I know who is running them as well as who has been rejected. It would show that FD does in fact give a crap about the ToS..since the last time they FAILED to do anything about it but just changed it so they didn’t have to hold the offenders accountable.

    But I will just build better lineups….

  • poonwhipped1

    As I have freaking stated this isn’t a LINEUP BUILDING ISSUE….I win and I lose. So whatever. I do this for FUN and lately with all the crap that has been going on….there is no F U N anymore. The illusion of having a chance to win is fading fast…and I know I am not the only one who is feeling like that.

  • tonytone1908

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    Transparency, I would like to know who is running scripts and who isn’t. IF the script users can set up their script to gobble up h2h as soon as they are posted then WHY can’t I know who is running them as well as who has been rejected. It would show that FD does in fact give a crap about the ToS..since the last time they FAILED to do anything about it but just changed it so they didn’t have to hold the offenders accountable.

    But I will just build better lineups….

    I still don’t understand what it will change for you or anyone else? People use scripts, so what? How is knowing who is using a script going to affect the way you play now?

  • tonytone1908

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    As I have freaking stated this isn’t a LINEUP BUILDING ISSUE….I win and I lose. So whatever. I do this for FUN and lately with all the crap that has been going on….there is no F U N anymore. The illusion of having a chance to win is fading fast…and I know I am not the only one who is feeling like that.

    Nothing has changed “lately”. People didn’t just start using scripts all of a sudden. If you’re not having fun anymore than go do something else. Nobody owes you anything. I’m pretty sure you can figure out who is using a script. Simple solution? DONT PLAY AGAINST THEM! If you’re worried about getting scooped than don’t post your own H2H’s. Having a list of names is not going to change anything.

  • Ryazan

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    tonytone1908 is the voice of reason. It’s so weird that so few people on this board have a good solid understanding of logic.

    Why would you worry about the names of those who use scripts, when instead you could be worrying about overlay, about scooping up H2Hs of inexperienced players, maybe scooping up H2Hs of players who are great at one sport but not great at another (aka they have alot of money, so they play everything, but they are actually not good at a sport)……maybe entering 10 lineups into a GPP and trying to take that sucker down with 1 of your lineups. Someone else using a script DOES NOT HELP THEM SET A BETTER LINEUP THAN YOU. YOU CAN TAKE THEM OUT, I PROMISE!!

    I have taken Maxdalury down and out in high stakes H2Hs ($535/$270/$1065) for a couple of weeks, i think i am like 5 wins and 1 loss against him. I have taken Hoop Mike Petta down also 5/6 times or so, you all treat a h2h with a pro like a conspiracy and the end of the world…….using a script does not make someone beat you.

  • madchuck

    The fact that people are STILL multi-entering single entry tournaments, is a big problem.

  • JDub

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    I am worrying about myself. Hence me posting this. I am interested in the process that FD has for allowing and denying people the use of scripts.

    Yeah, me too!

  • poonwhipped1

    The way Ryazan and TonyTone are carrying on makes me WONDER if maybe they are using scripts that HAVE not been approved by Fan Duel….Just saying…..

  • poonwhipped1

    @madchuck said...

    The fact that people are STILL multi-entering single entry tournaments, is a big problem.

    What? No way…Rayazn will tell you to just build better lineups….don’t worry about people ME single entry….and TonyTone will ask you who the hell do you think you are even having that kind of thought….

    But yes..that is PREVALENT.

  • tonytone1908

    @poonwhipped1 said...

    The way Ryazan and TonyTone are carrying on makes me WONDER if maybe they are using scripts that HAVE not been approved by Fan Duel….Just saying…..

    Sorry, I’m GPP only. I never bothered with H2H because I know its full of sharks that will eat me up. Its no surprise. I admit I can’t wait to use the lineup export tool come NBA season and that was people’s complaints before. This just sounds like whining to me. Stop wasting your time worrying what others are doing.

  • poonwhipped1

    Love that last line Tony….“Stop wasting your time worrying what others are doing.” Then heed your own advice and stop wasting your time worrying about me asking/demanding Fan Duel for action.

  • Ryazan

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    @poonwhipped1 said...

    The way Ryazan and TonyTone are carrying on makes me WONDER if maybe they are using scripts that HAVE not been approved by Fan Duel….Just saying…..

    LOL.

    I can’t even connect to WIFI in a restaurant, i am technologically retarded.

    I dropped out of my programming major 1st year of college and haven’t look back since – it bores me to death.

    I don’t play H2H and I enter every single lineup like a ma and pa shop, handmade and 1 by 1, because i like the satisfaction of having those lineups take money from everyone else, including the pros.

    In fact, I am most happy when i take pros down in H2H’s that i scoop up 1 by 1, people like maxdalury and the daily fantasy fix host Hoop Petta.

    Everything natural, no scripts.

    People need to start having some confidence in themselves, an entry script someone uses doesn’t mean that you are screwed and going to lose lol

  • tonytone1908

    Let me ask you this. If you used a script how would you feel if FD published your name on this list you want? What would it change for you anyway? Would you stop playing H2H? Why not search for fish like those using scripts do? It’s not hard.

  • Ryazan

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    @poonwhipped1 said...

    Love that last line Tony….“Stop wasting your time worrying what others are doing.” Then heed your own advice and stop wasting your time worrying about me asking/demanding Fan Duel for action.

    no one is worrying about you. We are posting in your thread, but we do not have any “worries” about you. We are just trying to help you understand that you shouldnt be concerned with what others are doing, and you should focus on yourself and yourself only

  • mmzapp

    @tonytone1908 said...

    This just sounds like whining to me. Stop wasting your time worrying what others are doing.

    It’s not about “worrying what others are doing”. In cash games (you mention you are GPP only) opponent selection is crucial. Selecting +EV contests is key.

    So if a scripter is scooping the best +EV opponents using automation, A) those are contests that we don’t have access to and, B) we have to sit in front of a computer to get our + EV contests (whatever is left) while the scripter just lives his normal day.

    How is that fair? I understand why you wouldn’t care if this does not affect you. I, for instance, could care less if people multi enter the hell out of tournaments using scripts. Because that does not affect me.

  • Ryazan

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    @tonytone1908 said...

    Let me ask you this. If you used a script how would you feel if FD published your name on this list you want? What would it change for you anyway? Would you stop playing H2H? Why not search for fish like those using scripts do? It’s not hard.

    why not just play the other 1000 types of cash games available other than posting your own H2H contests. I sort of want to just go and scoop up all the entitled low stakes players in their little $1 H2H games, 1 by 1, and make them beg for kcannon, because i would blow them out patriots style.

    That is what you are poonwhipped, you are entitled. And by the way, how is your username even approved by RG? And a better question is, why would you even choose a username like poonwhipped…what are you trying to tell us? haha

  • Ryazan

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    @mmzapp said...

    It’s not about “worrying what others are doing”. In cash games (you mention you are GPP only) opponent selection is crucial. Selecting +EV contests is key.

    So if a scripter is scooping the best +EV opponents using automation, A) those are contests that we don’t have access to and, B) we have to sit in front of a computer to get our + EV contests (whatever is left) while the scripter just lives his normal day.

    How is that fair? I understand why you wouldn’t care if this does not affect you. I, for instance, could care less if people multi enter the hell out of tournaments using scripts. Because that does not affect me.

    if a scripter sets a really bad lineup and uses it 100 times on all the h2h’s he scooped up, and he loses every single one of them, who will complain?

  • poonwhipped1

    If using a script is NO big issue..then there is no big issue in letting the public know who’s scripting and who has been denied that scripting. Weather a lit of players ever gets made public that will never change the way I construct a LU or how I enter.

    But violating the ToS DOES….that is why a list needs to be released. This thing with KCannon shouldn’t have turned into a witch hunt. IF he was using a script within the ToS then I wouldn’t be asking for anything. But the fact remains he COULD HAVE possibly been using a script against the ToS. Let me be clear I am NOT accusing him.

    So a list that shows KCannon was approved for a script then EVERYONE would just STFU…you have no reason to question. If his name was on the rejected list well..then everyone would have some standing in their reaction.

    I am done trying to prove my point why a list is a big deal…both of you seem to think I am complaining that I lost to someone who uses a script. Fact remains you win some and lose some. End of the day its the better LU that wins. This my two friends is about RULES and TRANSPARENCY.

  • mmzapp

    @Ryazan said...

    if a scripter sets a really bad lineup and uses it 100 times on all the h2h’s he scooped up, and he loses every single one of them, who will complain?

    What? I don’t understand what that has to do with my post. That doesn’t matter- I will still complain. Because, as I said, I don’t care about the scripter or his lineup. I care that he took +EV action, through AUTOMATION, that is no longer available for me.

  • rsigler65

    I asked for permission to script and was told I was allowed to enter contests and submit lineups – nothing else. I’m quite certain this is the exact answer everyone else gets, so I don’t think such a list exists. They’ll just tell you “here’s what you can do via scripting and here’s what you cannot do via scripting”. Seems bizarre to suggest that they would unfairly allow some and not others to script. And if that were the case, there is a 0% chance that they would release a list. I also know that there have been mistakes in labeling contests. A few weeks ago, I couldn’t multi-enter the $1 Bunt on Fanduel because it had been accidentally set up as single entry, but labeled as multi-entry. Things happen, it’s not a big deal.

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