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  • mikedeatworld

    With 42k entries, would you shy away from a full 6 man stack tonight in the Mega Payoff?

    Just curious to hear thoughts on this…

  • papa123

    Well it’s certainly possible. If a performance like the Yankees had yesterday occurs tonight, yes. But I think more than likely a certain will hit a couple double HR games and the other guys that homer

  • LegiaWwa

    I hope so….

  • lilprog

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    stacks can win any contest. The problem is people misunderstand the definition of a stack. Its not just stack or no stack. I have a tool that analyzes contest rosters after the fact, breaks down by team, 4 man, 5 man, 6 man and even 7 man stacks(6 plus pitcher from that team). When you have stacks of diff sizes you can win even on the days where three guys double dong. All comes down to the combos

  • slinkymaster

    With the size gpp’s are getting, stacking is becoming less and less optimal for winning the whole thing. The big $3 tournament on DK was won with a stack, but only 2 teams scored more than 5 runs and one of them singled the other team to death. I think it’s going to be more common than not seeing these big field gpp’s taken down by non-stack lineups.

  • mikedeatworld

    Yeah, I’m thinking a mini stack would be more appropriate with the size of the field tonight. But I just can’t get away from a few 6 man stacks…

  • Cameron

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    Maxdalury says yes…shy away by 1.

    Crazy.

  • xandamere

    In the really big tournaments, I think you’ll start seeing 4 and 5-man stacks win more often. A 6-man stack is rarely optimal at each position, it just helps ensure you get exposure to any player in the lineup who happens to have a good game. But, with more and more entries, smaller stacks of 4-5 are more likely to hit the highest-scoring players in the stacked lineup while leaving more room for other individual picks.

  • Unico10

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    400 variations of one stack seemingly can

  • stonejack26

    Maxdalury had 888 entries. Game of statistics or skill? Dude makes a mockery of anyone calling DFS a game of skill.

  • aka_the_goat

    @stonejack26 said...

    Dude makes a mockery of anyone calling DFS a game of skill.

    Well, this could get ugly.

  • Cal

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    @stonejack26 said...

    Maxdalury had 888 entries. Game of statistics or skill? Dude makes a mockery of anyone calling DFS a game of skill.

    He skillfully won his way to a bankroll in which he can enter 888 teams.

    He then skillfully chose the distribution of players he wanted on those teams. Check out his distribution here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LO_87QQlHan6pNtyIXMmnbLJUTRd43lPnFTBLkJGJkk/edit#gid=0

    He’s not randomly picking players to cover all of his bases. He is skillfully attacking the game that is in front of him.

    I agree that the number of entries per person allowed should decrease even if that means smaller prize pools, but to call what Max is doing unskillful is just incorrect.

  • Ryanoss

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    If you want contests with fewer entries allowed and are okay with smaller prize pools then it may be prudent to explore other sites. DK makes money this way and it seems unlikely they would change.

  • IronMonkey415

    Is there a link to that tournament last night?
    I want to see who won and what player they pick.

  • nspace

    Maxdalury won last night. not only did he win the first price but more than half his 888 entries finished in the money. he had more than 1 team finishing in top ten and more than 10 teams finishing in the top 100. He has many strategies at his disposable and one of it is bringing in sports betting aspect into the game. He mentioned in an interview such as stacking teams with highest betting total offered for the game and backing pitchers of teams that pro sports handicappers like bettingresource pick to win. This guy must have a huge bank at his dispose to play like that because i was looking at bettingresource.com and their 10 unit picks are ridiculously priced at 5k/month! He mentioned he is subsribed to an expensive line service to where you can see the lineup as soon as they are announced and the line more from multiple sportsbooks. He must have a ridiculously big bank if he is capable of subscribing to all that plus taking a risk by making so many entries to one tournament. 888 entires yesterday cost him $23976 but he made well over 150K so it is ok but if he goes on a streak of not finishing in money few times with that many entries he could lose most or all of it. I wonder what his overall +ev is in fantasy sports. From the way he is playing, you can tell he bets on sports and probably makes a killing.

  • bluestooges

    @Cal said...

    He skillfully won his way to a bankroll in which he can enter 888 teams.

    He then skillfully chose the distribution of players he wanted on those teams. Check out his distribution here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LO_87QQlHan6pNtyIXMmnbLJUTRd43lPnFTBLkJGJkk/edit#gid=0

    He’s not randomly picking players to cover all of his bases. He is skillfully attacking the game that is in front of him.

    I agree that the number of entries per person allowed should decrease even if that means smaller prize pools, but to call what Max is doing unskillful is just incorrect.

    Plus figuring out the weather….with help from KevinRothWx of course. The amount of time it takes/ plus staying up on last minute changes or delays or scratches and so on…. I hope one day people will complain about my domination.

  • stonejack26

    I admire the statistical and probability acumen. Just like I admire people who can count cards. If what you say is true, Maxdalury pays for picks from a professional handicapper (where is the skill in that?), then applies a statistical probability of likely scenarios based on the pitchers and stacks which the handicapper preferred. I see what skill there is clearly and it’s not about making picks himself, it’s about applying probability to data he paid for. I am not mad at him, frustrated or anything else. A goal should be to emulate him until the strategy gets shutdown.

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