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  • BB4E

    Seriously though guys, this is getting to be a bit much. I have played nearly every day for the past two NBA seasons, but I think I’m about to give it up. This is the first time since I started that I feel like I can’t win or that the chances are beyond slim. Last week I entered a $2 dollar 10 man where Chipotleaddict and youdacao entered after me, and they proceeded to put up a 356 and a 345. Almost all of us flat out cant compete with this.

    I know this has been said about 1000 times in every way possible, but I think DFS is dead in a couple of years at this rate. I don’t know how the sites are going to regulate this but they need to figure it out… like quick.

  • syers4444

    Few questions relevant to this post;
    Do the Pro’s and/or experienced high volume players on DK play against each other in head 2 heads?
    Or do they generally avoid each other and create contests to wait for lesser opponents?
    I’ve only recently started playing DFS on DK’s and I play EPL soccer. I come from a heads up poker background so I started mainly with head to heads and some GPP’s now and again just for fun (that i expect not to cash in a lot of the time, like poker tournaments) But if I go in low stakes head to heads to join a table the open tables are all full of pro’s/ experienced players and if I create multiple head to head contests the same guys seem to be the only ones joining me. (Probably fighting each other to pres the button first to join me lol) This doesn’t bother me at all or make me want to stop playing DFS, it makes me more determined to get better and compete with them but, I also like money, so is there an easier way to play people less experienced like myself at head to heads? Then have shots at GPP’s and experienced players with profit rather than every contest. (Apologies for the first post essay!)

  • JimKronlund

    On the lobby page under H2H, if you hover your mouse over the $ amount you want to play it will say “view”.
    Then you can pick the player you want to play against and avoid a pro.
    Or you can create a league or join one.

  • depalma13

    @jbb18 said...

    Yeah, I might need to move my money to DK. And, I really don’t mind if you take games at each level. But why scoop when the win percentage is damn near the same. The guy is treating it like he is dominating me. I don’t want to donate rake.

    He doesn’t care if you split 50/50. Eventually, you will lose he will take all of your money. His bankroll will withstand your luck.

  • Hyak420

    I play Fanduel only and pick up $2 head to head against the top players weekly, usually about $10 in entry fees just to learn about their strategy. I play around $75 – $150 weekly depending on how I feel about the schedule. In large field 50/50 and double ups, everyone is in with multiple entries, doesn’t mean that you can’t cash against them even with a few entries. In the smaller 3 -10 player tourneys you’ll see quite a bit of sharks but just remember they have 50 – 150 lineups spread out against these single entries and they only hit on a few.

  • lifehealthbar

    King of San Francisco Champion

    @rainbowtroutman said...

    Grew up on sports betting. You are betting on teams,how can a “pro” gain an unfair advantage? I mean,if the Lions are favored by 3 over the Bears,you make
    your choice. It is just like the guy at the end of the bar giving odds and calling in bets from a payphone. Not complicated at all.

    Are you serious lol, don’t you realize that the sharps are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on engineers to beat these lines, the line doesn’t just stay at 3 most casual betters bet in the last moment when the sharps but in their millions of cumulative dollars on the line vegas moves the line and you will get the worst possible line by time you bet.

  • rainbowtroutman

    @lifehealthbar said...

    Are you serious lol, don’t you realize that the sharps are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year on engineers to beat these lines, the line doesn’t just stay at 3 most casual betters bet in the last moment when the sharps but in their millions of cumulative dollars on the line vegas moves the line and you will get the worst possible line by time you bet.

    totally wrong—-if the line goes the other way I will bet the other way—been doing NFL for over 40 years and I don’t lose very often.

  • timusbr

    Hey, I played youdacao last night in basketball and won ( $1 10-player). Woo Hoo. Beating the pro,,,what he only had 260 pts not 300+

    They cant do it every night.. they can only use 1 of the 50 to 150 lineups they create for the large Gpp’s.

    but seriously, to brag about beating youdacao is…….unsatisfying

  • syers4444

    Are there any line-up builders for soccer like the builder on here for other sports? I cant seem to find one on any site and can see some players have 150 entries in GPP’s so surely haven’t done them manually…. ?

  • BB4E

    @timusbr said...

    anyone think that if Phil Ivey was in a low stakes poker game, that you would be able to play him??? The waiting list would be in the hundreds if not thousands. A chance to play against someone like that for low stakes and the bragging of I BEAT …..

    I think you have completely missed the point of what I am saying. If I had to face Phil Ivey on a daily basis I think I would move my money somewhere else.

  • Cpjttogether

    we are all pros. If we win we all get paid. The answer isn’t to not let them play against us. The answer is to get good enough to beat them. We can beat them. Ive beat some of them and I’m not very good yet.

  • raiders7532

    You are better off betting a 25 team parlay.Your odds are better.
    Atleast you aren’t competing against 500 lineups from the sharks.

  • CJtheGrump

    I have the top badge you can get on DK but I am nowhere near the level of the pros. I have the badge mainly because of two decent sized wins. 1k in NFL 2 tears ago and 500 in nba last year. I haven’t won more than 50 on one entry other than those two and my win% isn’t even that good. I say all that to say that there’s no way I stack up against Chipotle Addict youdacao or Saahil. The top level badges seem to be a very wide net.

    I do find myself finishing ahead of one or two of their lineups from time to time but I know they enter hundreds of them.

    My suggestion is to aim for large field single entry games. That will minimize the odds of it being completely stacked with sharks.

  • Fredb125125

    Just like yesterday I play a $2 double up on a Sunday night and the first names I see Youdacao and Pianoclub. Piano just won over $450k in one contest (I got tired of counting it) 2 days ago, come on guys give us just a little piece damn. I feel like the only way to win is to invest big and if you enter GPP’s you have to max entry to even have a chance. Now you still have to pick a good core of 3-4 guys then have a lineup builder to fill in the rest from a pool of players of your picking that might perform. I test it everyday with FantasyLabs and check the past tournaments if you have the cash to get in you can win. But if your like me a low dollar player, you will always be a loser unless you get lucky one night and hit the nutts. Pros don’t get lucky they are leveraging outcomes and have the cash to invest.

  • jbb18

    @depalma13 said...

    He doesn’t care if you split 50/50. Eventually, you will lose he will take all of your money. His bankroll will withstand your luck.

    Huh? So me splitting 100 contest to this point has been all luck? I mean, hypothetically, we could play 1000 games and if we continue to split 50 50 not sure it is in our best interest to continue playing each other.

  • nickcupolo

    • 2016 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    Do what I do when I’m slumping on the bigger sites. Try different things. Playdraft is one of my recommend things to try now. FantasyDraft has rake-free H2H. Overlay on some smaller sites increases R.O.I.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    @Cpjttogether said...

    we are all pros. If we win we all get paid. The answer isn’t to not let them play against us. The answer is to get good enough to beat them. We can beat them. Ive beat some of them and I’m not very good yet.

    While there are parts of that which are true, and it is a good attitude to have…if you take it literally, it’s basically saying the solution is to make money and consistently beat those players by becoming one of the top 5% of people that play DFS.

    That’s incredibly unlikely. So the problem for DFS as a whole is that once the realization of that futility sets in one of two things is most likely to happen….You stop playing (and you likely are leaving with a negative view of DFS) or you keep playing chasing an unattainable goal and money lost. And I’d wager those majority that fall into that group are doing so largely due to compulsion, addictive personality and/or it’s bordering on a gambling problem.
    None of that is good for the public image or long-term growth of DFS.

    Is everyone going to fit in those groups. No.
    But if your a losing player, who happily sticks around for years, playing responsibly during that time…I applaud you…but I also think that is the minority,

  • TheTruthIsALie

    No. (That’s the short answer to the OP’s question.)

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