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  • tommykarate

    I’m curious what other cash game specialists feel about the season thus far. Last year was my 1st in MLB and after a rocky first 3 months, i finished very strong and ended the season at 59% in 50/50’s (about 65% the 2nd half of the season).

    This year i had a ton of confidence in my research process/approach but have now stumbled the past few weeks and am now second guessing everything i do.
    I was hitting around 60% mid May but am now down to around 50% — which is horrible if you rely on cash games to grow your bankroll. I am fully aware of variance, cold streaks etc, but im now going on 3-4 day losing streaks which never happened to me last year.

    Reason im posting this is because i just did some research of the last 30 days, and i tracked a few of the bigger named pros, and they have also struggled. My lineups are mostly chalky and it seems like a lot of the guys cashing have that 10% guy for 30 points to help hit the cash line.

    Any other cash game guys going through this? Im not sure if its the new scoring on FD, the lack of novice money from NY or just a cold streak for chalky plays.

  • smutpeddlers

    @jds2721 said...

    Some nights it can be close but for the most part I would think the GPP cash line is way hire. Just depends on how well the chalk does on a particular night. Even if the cash lines are the same, your GPP lineup will always have a lower point projection since you’re stacking or being a little contrarian to try and win the GPP.

    Maybe this pertains more to NBA but I think they are similar and if you come in first the the 5050 you dont reap the rewards. I only play GPP but cash will die at some point. I think….. Plus building a bankroll playing cash is not that easy. IMO….. Think my brain is just set up for GPP’s…..

  • bhdevault

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    @Brian4state said...

    Is this really true? I’m not trying to call you out, but simply say I’ve played way to many gpp’ this season and haven’t kept up with cash game lines.

    100% not true. The average cash line for the $5 double up (Fanduel) this year is right around 144.97. The average min cash for the Fanduel Squeeze is 159.24. I track these each slate (I have missed a few here and there, but not to many).

    Keep in mind, 50/50 cash line’s are almost always lower than the big $5 double up, I just don’t track those.

  • JustRaze

    @bhdevault said...

    100% not true. The average cash line for the $5 double up (Fanduel) this year is right around 144.97. The average min cash for the Fanduel Squeeze is 159.24. I track these each slate (I have missed a few here and there, but not to many).

    Keep in mind, 50/50 cash line’s are almost always lower than the big $5 double up, I just don’t track those.

    I can cosign this (without as much data). It’s something I’m extremely mindful of. There came a point in NBA at the end last season where cash lines were CONSISTENTLY higher in double ups because of so many no-brainer min priced super chalk plays, when Giannis was averaging 65 fpts over 2 weeks, austin rivers was putting up 20/10 as a min priced starter, etc.

    I started playing GPPs as my 50-50s/double-ups and had great results for those few weeks where my “double ups” were actually paying 4-5x sometimes. People got cute trying to be contrarian but there was simply no way to make up the 10x floor that some of the min-priced starters had.

    That being said, I’ve been inspired by a lot of GPP posts recently where ROIs are much higher, cash is just so marginal even if it’s supposed to be “steady”. Plus the thrill of potentially winning 10-20k in one night is so much more exciting their your ceiling being to double your investment.

  • smutpeddlers

    @bhdevault said...

    100% not true. The average cash line for the $5 double up (Fanduel) this year is right around 144.97. The average min cash for the Fanduel Squeeze is 159.24. I track these each slate (I have missed a few here and there, but not to many).

    Keep in mind, 50/50 cash line’s are almost always lower than the big $5 double up, I just don’t track those.

    Hence, my reply maybe this is more NBA….I stopped playing cash, But IMO 15 point difference is not that extreme of difference and also still no upside for doing extremely well in the cashgames. You double your money if you cash anyway. I think cash games are way harder then GPP’s……

    I would think there would be more incentive to be a cash player as you increase the buy-in.

  • joshshafe

    This is my first season of MLB, after running through my first season of NBA, and I decided early on that I would just be a GPP only player for baseball due to the variance of MLB and because of how much harder it was to cash in Cash games v GPP games during the NBA season.

    The past few weeks, I’ve done some 3 man leagues (which I consider cash) and just yesterday I decided to go into the BIG $2 Double Up on Fanduel and noticed that the cash line was MUCH smaller than the cash line for the Squeeze. The Squeeze cash line was 153.50, while the $2 Double was 99.40. 99.40! I would imagine that is not normally the case, but that is an insane difference.

    Like the poster above me, I think NBA swayed my decision too much to go strictly GPP, but it seems like cash for MLB may be extremely helpful in maintaining your bankroll. There have been many days the past 2 weeks where I am about 4 points out of the cash line in GPP, and the lower cash lines in the double ups would have helped me cash and maintain my bankroll.

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