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  • dstars5

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    I feel like I’ve been doing a pretty good job of finding matchups to target, but I have trouble picking individual players. I currently use kenpom.com for 90% of my research, typically looking at the team’s 2P% and 3P% against as well as rebounding %, then look for opposing players that fit the weaknesses (Guys who put up and make a lot of 3s, have high rebounding percentages, etc). Sometimes, a team has very clear weaknesses, but this method tends to become far more difficult with teams that have an about average defense. I feel like a lot of times using my current method, I’m just throwing darts.

    Is there a better way or are there more factors I could go about picking individual players? Preferably a way that eliminates at least some of the guesswork on my end? As someone who has never really followed the NCAA all that closely (Except in march, of course), I need to rely a bit more heavily on stats, which I know is a bit more difficult in CBB than other sports.

    Thanks!

  • kings2609

    My number one thing I look for is pace, any team playing up in pace I usually move to the front my list of players to look at because they are priced for their slower pace games. that is my main thing besides putting in some work and finding what teams get dominated down low or on the perimeter and constantly pick on them.. Ex. DePaul, Virginia tech, unc, auburn and many more have glaring flaws that can be exploited..Takes a little more research time but love it compared to the scramble of nba at lineup lock

  • Varncass

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    Following/watching the games is a really good way to figure out who the players you want are but usage rate is also a huge factor that I use all the time.

    Really, the game is based on value just like any other fantasy sport as there is so much variance that the best plays over time are going to be the ones who provide the most value, so judging players by how many opportunities they are going to get in the game is going to be the best way to pick each one. The problem is, that if they have a high usage rate, generally they will be higher priced because they will perform better.

    The studs in college are going to be the studs because they take a ton of shots and rebound the ball or assist a lot or all 3, and are going to be highly owned. The trick is to figure out which players are the ones who are going to take more shots than usual, are more valuable to their team recently than their price is or who is looking at an uptick in minutes because of injuries.

  • dstars5

    • Blogger of the Month

    Is there a good way of keeping up with a team’s strength’s and weaknesses without watching tons of games? I just don’t have the time to watch a bunch of games for random teams on any given night, and even if I could, I don’t know enough about the sport itself for it to really be beneficial.

    Also, congrats on taking down the Q tonight Varncass!

  • kinggeorge

    Good stuff guys a lot of this really makes sense. Could you guys tell me what the main differences are between this and NBA? Are minutes and rotation changes a major worry or is like choosing between 10 Durants (in terms of mutiple guys putting up big stats and locked into minutes) and picking the best one? Maybe the rotations is more an issue for value plays? Is there a good place for starting Lineups? How is the competition for cash and tournies on FD if you nail the research?

    Random questions but I’d appreciate any help! I’d like to get started this today/this weekend esp on NBA slow days and as a 4th sport for next year.

  • Varncass

    CBB/CFB Contributor

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    • 2014 RG Season Champion: CBB

    Thanks dstars,

    KenPom does a great job of keeping up with the teams for me. I get the feeling you know how to navigate the site so that really has all the information that you are looking for. The one thing I think that helps greatly and might answer your question more is that I look at how teams have been playing for the last week or so. Finding a difference in how teams have been playing is crucial to finding value in my opinion. If a team is a top tempo team but has been playing at a 60 possession pace for the last few games, then they are probably one to avoid. Or, if a team is a middle of the road tempo team but has played like 5 or 6 slow tempo teams in a row, you can bet their salaries are going to be a little deflated when they get back to playing the tempo they like. Really, picking players is all about opportunity they are given in relation to their salary.

    kinggeorge – I would start with KenPom.com for starting lineups. It is a $20/year subscription, but the information is invaluable because there is not a lot of information out there. He gives starting lineups for the last 5 games and the usage rates for each player in those games and what positions the players are playing in a nice graphic format. He also gives the stats of all the teams and how they play and individual stats. If you haven’t checked it out, I think my CBB Strategy 101 column answers a lot of your questions on the difference between NBA and CBB, which should be able to be found on the homepage. NBA and CBB is a bit different in certain ways but both share the same underlying strategy that extra minutes + opportunity + low salary = making value. One thing I learned about CBB that is majorly different than NBA is that injury replacements do not always work out – the bench guys in CBB are bench guys for a reason and may not be good players at all. In the NBA, every player is a competent player and can step in and produce. Check out the strategy column, and if you have more questions I would be more than happy to answer them.

  • migsrgr8

    @kinggeorge said...

    Good stuff guys a lot of this really makes sense. Could you guys tell me what the main differences are between this and NBA? Are minutes and rotation changes a major worry or is like choosing between 10 Durants (in terms of mutiple guys putting up big stats and locked into minutes) and picking the best one? Maybe the rotations is more an issue for value plays? Is there a good place for starting Lineups? How is the competition for cash and tournies on FD if you nail the research?

    Random questions but I’d appreciate any help! I’d like to get started this today/this weekend esp on NBA slow days and as a 4th sport for next year.

    I’d say 2 things that make CBB much different than NBA is first the information is much sparser. Really no place to go that is consistent for starting lineups or last second news. Second thing is blowout’s. A blowout game can be factored in but much less than NBA. Most coaches will still play their starters 30 mins, or whatever they typically average regardless or margin.

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