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  • JMToWin

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      2014 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2016 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Forget about your failed Coors stack for a second, and forget about asking Saahil Sud anything. If you play PGA DFS (which, I guess, is now known as “Golf DFS” – as non-PGA has been added to the mix), we’d love to hear from you.

    Currently, we are making some gradual upgrades to our Golf content and tools. So our question for you is:

    If you had your say, what would you like to see added? What would you like to see changed?

    Okay, that’s all. Back to your one run from the Rockies, and back to asking Saahil anything…

  • HoneyBadgerDFS

    i dont use RG incentives for golf content. So ill give my opinion on what would be intriguing to change that.

    one of RGs best things for golf weekly are the “Searching for a Specialist” blogs. It’s informative, w/ clear reasoning and data, and its easily digested.

    I think this is important for golf content as it can get…. dry.

    As far as things id like to see covered:

    Things that make or influence choices weekly in PGA:

    maybe content about Salaries. whose up whose down. who is a steal? who is over priced and why w/ data/facts.

    Course History vs Current Form reports.

    weekly interviews (maybe mothly us easier) with real PGA golfers? they know about us DFSers.

    Thats all i got right now.

  • jeffgo33

    I love what Notorious and Gibby put together each week, but if I could tweak anything, it would be clearer differentiation between cash and GPP insights per week, similar to the way cash and tourney articles are separate in NBA incentives.

  • u2claytn

    • Blogger of the Month

    RG has everything an incentives subscriber could want…except for predicting accurate ownership % rates beyond the occasional “this guy will be highly owned” or “nobody will be on him.” But what site can accurately predict PGA ownership % rates? If someone from RG figures out a way to accurately predict ownership rates with PGA (like we can do with NFL using the Thr-Sun contests), that would be great! Also, I like the square that shows the popular parings but I think someone from RG can go further and list all the ownership rates for every golfer for a handful of the most popular DK and FD contests. Those ownership rates can be included in possible trends/patterns we can gain from analyzing winning lineups as well as the types of golfers that finished high up on the leaderboard in that particular tournament. Basically do a retro study of ownership rates (from of a handful of popular “cash” and “gpp” contests for both FD and DK) of all the golfers in each field. It would look something like this:

    Dean and Deluca

    Name Salary FD combined GPP Ownership Rate based on “x” contests
    Spieth 12,400 23%
    Matsuyama 10,500 15%
    Kuchar 9,500 33%

    Then have someone from RG analyze the ownership % rates and tell us why they are surprised or not surprised on what they find. Basically I think previous ownership % rates are vastly under analyzed in the PGA DFS community. And if I’m wrong, can someone please point out a place on RG (or somewhere else) where actual previous ownership % rates are thoroughly discussed when providing expert PGA DFS analysis? Thanks!

  • blindbetjack

    • 2019 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • 2016 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    yes

  • crclngthdrn

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    • 2021 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    Ownership % projections

  • gypsy777

    More girls

  • JMToWin

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      2014 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2016 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @gypsy777 said...

    More girls

    Working on this as a top priority. Obviously.

  • EandE

    I’d like to see a tool where the user can select specific stats and assign weights to those stats to formulate their own player rankings.

    For Example, I can choose Driving Distance 25%, Driving Accuracy 25%, Strokes Gained Tee to Green 25%, and Scrambling 25%. I’d then have my own personal rankings. Someone else could chose different stats and weightings for their own rankings.

    This puts the player in control of decisions instead of just reading expert picks.

  • walkoff9

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    JMToWin’s PGA Edge…get on it

  • kswetnam1342

    First Look for the Euro tournaments.

  • skeeter1114

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    I know DraftKings is the big golf provider. However, it would be nice to see some articles specific to pricing on Fantasy Aces (I’ll assume the other sites that offer golf as well).

    The other thing would be some type of bargain bin write-up, since people are always looking for the scrubs to go along with the stars.

  • dncolonna

    One thing that would be useful is to see how golfers rank in terms of key stats identified for the week. It’s easy enough to find on PGAtour.com, but having it all in one place and being sortable would save a lot of time.

  • drewbos11

    The golf metrics/stats are somewhat difficult to understand and I would like a more detailed description of those in write-ups if possible. I’d assume that golf is a new sport for most as opposed to MLB and NFL for example, so some of the terms and stats are foreign and explanations would be helpful.

    I believe this was somewhat covered in a Roto Academy course but repetition would be helpful.

  • xdan3220

    Course history, course info, general sortable stats for the players would all be nice

  • PigskinaBlanket

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    • x2

      2016 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

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      2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    Here are my thoughts:

    — With the advent of the EURO games, I think we need some Euro specific content. Probably obvious.
    — Course History Database
    — Cash Games breakdown vs GPPs (already mentioned above – but important)
    — Success Drivers for the week. It usually just an analysis by the writer, saying due to so and so the most important factors this week are SGT2G and Putting, or whatever. How about back testing the drivers of success on this course over the past five years to validate that conclusion. Its never one or two things, but we wcould weight how relevant the various stats are to each course based on past history.

    Not sure how I made all the blank posts. Oops

  • jdelsas

    Haven’t read the other comments (so not sure if this has been stated), but something that shows actual strokes gained by event history. Ideally, you would be able to select a prior tournament within the current year and see a golfer’s SG: Total, SG: Putting, etc. at that particular event.

    Not even sure if this is possible, but would be a great tool to have.

  • PigskinaBlanket

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    and…if I can be totally greedy…. can we try to get a tour caddy (or former) to break down a course one week (or each week). I am sure they would have some very unique views as to what it takes to win on a particular course.

  • teamcdot

    Golf DFS is pure luck and no skill.

  • smallANDflaccid

    @teamcdot said...

    Golf DFS is pure luck and no skill.

    As for what to offer – I think a valuable tool would be to list the player’s names and exactly what their DK point total will be at the end of the tournament. I think that would be valuable. For winning. At DFS golf. IMO

  • johnnybruhnanas

    @PigskinaBlanket said...

    How about back testing the drivers of success on this course over the past five years to validate that conclusion. Its never one or two things, but we wcould weight how relevant the various stats are to each course based on past history.

    Why is it never one or two things? Here are some data points of the last six winners for the Memorial:

    2015, David Lingmerth (-15)
    DD: 280 yards (61st), DA: 76.8% (11th), GIR: 68.1% (16th), Prox: 29’2” (21st), Scr: 69.6 % (9th), PPGIR: 1.59 (7th)

    2014, Hideki Matsuyama (-13)
    DD: 293 yards (39th), DA: 75.0% (11th), GIR: 66.7% (22nd), Prox: 25’8” (1st), Scr: 58.3 % (20th), PPGIR: 1.60 (7th)

    2013, Matt Kuchar (-12)
    DD: 283 yards (38th), DA: 69.6% (37th), GIR: 75.0% (1st), Prox: 32’2” (31st), Scr: 61.1% (18th), PPGIR: 1.74 (23rd)

    2012, Tiger Woods (-9)
    DD: 287 yards (18th), DA: 76.8% (14th), GIR: 73.6% (1st), Prox: 31’3” (20th), Scr: 57.9% (9th), PPGIR: 1.75 (25th)

    2011, Steve Stricker (-16)
    DD: 295 yards (35th), DA: 80.4% (3rd), GIR: 65.3% (30th), Prox: 26’9” (2nd), Scr: 64.0% (3rd), PPGIR: 1.60 (5th)

    2010, Justin Rose (-18)
    DD: 263 yards (55th), DA: 82.1% (10th), GIR: 73.6% (13th), Prox: 27’6” (13th), Scr: 68.4% (5th), PPGIR: 1.59 (1st)

    In short, Driving Accuracy, Scrambling, and PPGIR are strong trends while Driving Distance and GIR and Proximity are notable moderate trends. I should note that I didn’t add SGT2G because it’s important by default and is too vague to be useful at times in a similar way that wOBA is in baseball. Anyone can rattle off the top 25 in SGT2G. The real edges are gained in getting into more precise stats and applying those with game theory.

    Will these trends hold this week? who knows. it is golf after all. i can wake up and feel like shit and fire a 78 and tomorrow wake up and feel great and choke my way to an 85. it’s a tough game.

    As for answering JM’s question…this is what you could be doing. For baseball you, cheese, and stl write 4-5 hour in-depth articles and show a ton of effort and not just effort, but results. I guess my question is why isn’t this done for golf? it should be less of a burden because you have a whole week for just one event. hell, i’ll do it, PM me if you’re interested.

  • swh10e

    With Fantasy Draft now launching PGA, please add there salaries to the Salary Chart research tool.

  • nickvinin

    Line Movements

  • sportsgrinder

    • Blogger of the Month

    @skeeter1114 said...

    I know DraftKings is the big golf provider. However, it would be nice to see some articles specific to pricing on Fantasy Aces (I’ll assume the other sites that offer golf as well).

    Just for awareness, I write a weekly PGA article focused on Aces that gets published in the Blog section of the site.

  • whodat2

    @kswetnam1342 said...

    First Look for the Euro tournaments.

    +1

  • pomppomp

    Anything that pushes aside the completely unwatchable mess that the NBA has become is ok with me. RG has too much NBA content and not enough NHL in season for my liking. I don’t understand how anyone could waste their time watching a bunch of overpaid idiots who don’t care whether they win or lose. Watch hockey, or college hoops instead.

    As far as golf is concerned I like how RG lets us know how Nascar drivers have performed on the same and similar tracks and their “driver rating” over the last 4, 6, etc. races. Something like a golfer’s course history and recent performance along with historical fantasy points data would be great.

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