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  • depalma13

    “Draftkings players with $1 Million in lifetime entry fees will not be able to play in contests that have an entry fee less than $5 AND a total prize pool less than $25,000.”

    Draftkings was so proud of their High Volume Player Restrictions designed to protect casual players that they made sure the Quarter Jukebox didn’t qualify for those restrictions and casual players can still be chum for the sharks.

    Way to go Draftkings! Great policy! Really love that you emphasized the “AND”. If it wasn’t for the bold letters, casual players might actually think they are playing with other casual players. Good thing you took the time to emphasize that word, so you can make a prize pool of a $.25 tournament large enough to invalidate the protections and feel good about the decision.

  • Kingsking23

    DraftKings doesnt care though man. Dont lose sleep over him bro. Awesomeo is the peoples champ!!

  • yisman

    CA/papagates also won a seat to the Carolina Million

    https://www.fantasydraft.com/ticket/5746388

  • Dunzor

    @yisman said...

    CA/papagates also won a seat to the Carolina Million

    https://www.fantasydraft.com/ticket/5746388

    Ya they won just about every contest on every site yesterday because they had a ton of KC/NYJ game stacks

  • TeamSwish412

    Its nice when they can play 6 total entries in 3 entry-limit games

  • RedBaran24

    I agree, it is ridiculous that guys who play hundreds of thousands of dollars each month can enter contest $5 and under if the prize pool is high enough. Draftkings really does need to do something about these sharks playing in the low level contest. I would love to see the stats of new users. do they continue to deposit / play or do they stop? is the number of DFS players growing? I know that the millionaire maker is down to $3M this week

  • thedude404

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    Evidently Chipolte Addict is too dumb to realize he’s biting off the hand that feeds him…..He’s probably the type of guy who will wake up one morning and say “gee, I wonder why (fill in the blank) DFS company went out of business”. LOL.

    Evidently Chipotle Addict needs a babysitter to make rules for him because he’s not smart enough or he doesnt have enough common sense to do it on his own.

    So my proposal would be as a first year player, you can play in any contest you like for an entire year after initially signing up.

    From there, every player has their rolling annual net winnings evaluated along with their contest volume on a daily basis. Some type of formula needs to be developed using these two factors in evaluating players. That’s just off the top of my head. Obviously, Draftkings has put very little thought into this. Probably about as much as it took me to come up with the first two sentences in this paragraph.

  • Lathum

    @thedude404 said...

    Evidently this guy is so dumb he doesnt realize he’s biting off the hand that feeds him…..He’s probably the type of guy who will wake up one morning and say “gee, I wonder why (fill in the blank) DFS company went out of business”. LOL.

    And these dumb, idiotic stipulations are just that, made up by a team of idiots. Who cares about the dollar value of entry fees a person has made in their lifetime. That’s completely meaningless. They could be a losing player and have spent TEN million in entry fees. They need to look at a rolling ANNUAL DFS NET winnings as a control so clowns like this guy dont enter the $.25 contest. Evidently he needs a babysitter to make rules for him because he’s not smart enough to do it on his ow.

    I think it is the exact opposite. He knows exactly what he is doing and trying to suck as much out of it as he can before it dries up.

  • Roma315

    This annoys me to no end. I’m not a crazy Volume player. I play mostly 20 max, single, and 3 max contests. I try to stick under $8 entry fees, MLB is the only sport I go higher regularly.
    I’ve noticed this before in the $1 and $3 contests too. It’s amazing these guys need to play this low stake contest for a few extra bucks.

  • thedude404

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    @Lathum said...

    I think it is the exact opposite. He knows exactly what he is doing and trying to suck as much out of it as he can before it dries up.

    He’s part of the reason why it’s drying up. What, he thinks if he doesnt get in there some other shark millionaire will get in the $.25 game and win instead of him? I really dont understand the logic of trying to suck every last penny out of the DFS ecosystem. I think a vast majority of high volume/elite winning players realize how dumb it is to enter the $.25 contest. Evidently, this guy just doesnt get it. If word is out that some whiz kid winning millions at DFS is entering a $.25 contest, I dont blame people for bad-mouthing DFS. It SHOULD be bad-mouthed. How in the world does he or draftkings expect anyone to build up a bankroll? God, this is so dumb I can’t believe I’m having to question any of this…….

  • gim77us

    @TeamSwish412 said...

    Its nice when they can play 6 total entries in 3 entry-limit games

    And 300 entries in 150 entry limits

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @Roma315 said...

    This annoys me to no end. I’m not a crazy Volume player. I play mostly 20 max, single, and 3 max contests. I try to stick under $8 entry fees, MLB is the only sport I go higher regularly.
    I’ve noticed this before in the $1 and $3 contests too. It’s amazing these guys need to play this low stake contest for a few extra bucks.

    What’s more amazing is we still have to have this conversation this far along in the life of DFS.

  • RedBaran24

    @thedude404 said...

    What’s more amazing is we still have to have this conversation this far along in the life of DFS.

    Yes! exactly.

  • dab4me1

    @depalma13 said...

    “Draftkings players with $1 Million in lifetime entry fees will not be able to play in contests that have an entry fee less than $5 AND a total prize pool less than $25,000.”

    Draftkings was so proud of their High Volume Player Restrictions designed to protect casual players that they made sure the Quarter Jukebox didn’t qualify for those restrictions and casual players can still be chum for the sharks.

    Way to go Draftkings! Great policy! Really love that you emphasized the “AND”. If it wasn’t for the bold letters, casual players might actually think they are playing with other casual players. Good thing you took the time to emphasize that word, so you can make a prize pool of a $.25 tournament large enough to invalidate the protections and feel good about the decision.

    DraftKings has jumped the wagon, ever since the merger didn’t go through the site seems to be on constant decline. This is not only disgusting for amateurs considering how much he already makes, but he hurts the few in those tournaments trying to learn how to win and gradually move up in stakes. There won’t be any new professionals or high stakes players if he prevents small stakes ones from building a bankroll at the lower stakes. DFS will never survive if Competition doesn’t become progressively harder as players move up stakes.

    There is no chance he hasn’t exceeded the threshold to not be able to play these tournaments, if this is proven accurate, DraftKings should refund ever player from that tournament. I rarely play on there, but its puzzling why they allow guys with millions in profit to play the $3 satellites to their World Championship finals. Isn’t the point of these to have amateurs win them and then reap the positive PR if they end up winning a million dollars at the final, seems totally counterintuitive to building a sustainable and healthy business, which seems to be the path they have chosen.

  • bigez952

    @dab4me1 said...

    There is no chance he hasn’t exceeded the threshold to not be able to play these tournaments, if this is proven accurate, DraftKings should refund ever player from that tournament.

    I am confused why should Draftkings refund anyone since even if he exceeded the 1 million dollar threshold this tournament is not included in the ban? Their policy clearly states that these players can’t play games under $5 AND total prize pools under $25,000. The quarter arcade is obviously under $5 but consists of a prize pool larger than $25,000 so there is no rule saying pros can’t play. I knew from the start the Draftkings policy was pretty worthless since all the big low entry contests have prize pools over $25,000 so the ban really only keeps them out of the small tournaments and head to head games.

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @dab4me1 said...

    DraftKings has jumped the wagon, ever since the merger didn’t go through the site seems to be on constant decline. This is not only disgusting for amateurs considering how much he already makes, but he hurts the few in those tournaments trying to learn how to win and gradually move up in stakes. There won’t be any new professionals or high stakes players if he prevents small stakes ones from building a bankroll at the lower stakes. DFS will never survive if Competition doesn’t become progressively harder as players move up stakes.

    There is no chance he hasn’t exceeded the threshold to not be able to play these tournaments, if this is proven accurate, DraftKings should refund ever player from that tournament. I rarely play on there, but its puzzling why they allow guys with millions in profit to play the $3 satellites to their World Championship finals. Isn’t the point of these to have amateurs win them and then reap the positive PR if they end up winning a million dollars at the final, seems totally counterintuitive to building a sustainable and healthy business, which seems to be the path they have chosen.

    I think the issue here is that the $.25 contest went over the total prizepool threshold of $25k, thus allowing Chipotle Addict to play in the tournament. I think the OP’s point is that there shouldnt be that $25k prizepool threshold.

    I see what you are saying regarding the $3 sattys, but on the other hand how are these sattys going to fill if you dont have people max entering them?

  • superstars92

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    Asking a question here. Hope someone can answer since I don’t play the QAs.

    Is there some max entry limit in QAs? Is it 20? 150?

  • bigez952

    @superstars92 said...

    Asking a question here. Hope someone can answer since I don’t play the QAs.

    Is there some max entry limit in QAs? Is it 20? 150?

    All games under $5 are max 20.

  • thedude404

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    @superstars92 said...

    Asking a question here. Hope someone can answer since I don’t play the QAs.

    Is there some max entry limit in QAs? Is it 20? 150?

    If the qualifier is big enough, max entry is 150.

    EDIT: Sorry forgot about the $5 threshold. So yeah the $5 qualifier I played on DK yesterday was 150 max entry.

  • superstars92

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    @bigez952 said...

    All games under $5 are max 20.

    Ok thanks was just wondering. Do you guys know how many of these high stake max entry guys play the QA?

    I do have to say it’s a bit weird they all need to play the QA. I have maybe like 0.1-0.5% of their total volume and I don’t even play the QA (I don’t even notice it in the lobby). I guess they must have some thing where they just automatically submit into every possible contest. Otherwise, it just doesn’t even feel right playing the QA. These are the same guys who were playing a 26k buy-in tournament the other night on DK.

    I mean it’s hard to directly blame CA on this. I guess for him, he’s just maximizing his value, but I mean it’s kind of a weird way to maximize it. Instead of 20 0.25 entries, he could have just done a 5 dollar entry into a qualifier or something.

  • yisman

    @Roma315 said...

    This annoys me to no end. I’m not a crazy Volume player. I play mostly 20 max, single, and 3 max contests. I try to stick under $8 entry fees, MLB is the only sport I go higher regularly.
    I’ve noticed this before in the $1 and $3 contests too. It’s amazing these guys need to play this low stake contest for a few extra bucks.

    Same thing happens with hockey with a certain user (cough) across every single DFS site I’ve seen.

    Playing all the 1 dollar HTHs and contests, quarter contests, you name it.

  • yisman

    @dab4me1 said...

    DraftKings has jumped the wagon, ever since the merger didn’t go through the site seems to be on constant decline. This is not only disgusting for amateurs considering how much he already makes, but he hurts the few in those tournaments trying to learn how to win and gradually move up in stakes. There won’t be any new professionals or high stakes players if he prevents small stakes ones from building a bankroll at the lower stakes. DFS will never survive if Competition doesn’t become progressively harder as players move up stakes.

    There is no chance he hasn’t exceeded the threshold to not be able to play these tournaments, if this is proven accurate, DraftKings should refund ever player from that tournament. I rarely play on there, but its puzzling why they allow guys with millions in profit to play the $3 satellites to their World Championship finals. Isn’t the point of these to have amateurs win them and then reap the positive PR if they end up winning a million dollars at the final, seems totally counterintuitive to building a sustainable and healthy business, which seems to be the path they have chosen.

    Jumped the shark?

  • dab4me1

    @bigez952 said...

    I am confused why should Draftkings refund anyone since even if he exceeded the 1 million dollar threshold this tournament is not included in the ban? Their policy clearly states that these players can’t play games under $5 AND total prize pools under $25,000. The quarter arcade is obviously under $5 but consists of a prize pool larger than $25,000 so there is no rule saying pros can’t play. I knew from the start the Draftkings policy was pretty worthless since all the big low entry contests have prize pools over $25,000 so the ban really only keeps them out of the small tournaments and head to head games.

    Like I said in the reply, I don’t play much on there other than the Million Dollar GPPs, I realized they were garbage pretty early on; so I didn’t know the specific terms of the threshold. I said if he exceeded it they should refund all entrants, since they would have violated their own player protections (which is against consumer protection laws), if they didn’t then obviously they have no obligation to refund.

    DraftKings seems to be skirting dangerously close towards violating consumer protection laws, if DFS were to catch congressional attention their practices would almost certainly alone result in an online-pokeresque prohibition.

  • bigez952

    @superstars92 said...

    I do have to say it’s a bit weird they all need to play the QA. I have maybe like 0.1-0.5% of their total volume and I don’t even play the QA (I don’t even notice it in the lobby). I guess they must have some thing where they just automatically submit into every possible contest. Otherwise, it just doesn’t even feel right playing the QA. These are the same guys who were playing a 26k buy-in tournament the other night on DK.

    These guys get into every contest on the site so they must have some sort of program to auto enter everything they are eligible for.. I can’t imagine they would actively search for the quarter arcade to make sure they get their 20 entries in if they were manually picking and choosing which contests they enter.

  • CUTiger81

    I think both of these guys are really strong players (probably even the best) but anyone who tries to defend them is either vested or blind. There’s no doubt they’re colluding to double up on entries. These guys should never be playing the QA. That’s just embarrassing for both of them and for Draftkings.

  • superstars92

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    @bigez952 said...

    These guys get into every contest on the site so they must have some sort of program to auto enter everything they are eligible for.. I can’t imagine they would actively search for the quarter arcade to make sure they get their 20 entries in if they were manually picking and choosing which contests they enter.

    Yea I agree. There’s no way anyone submitting it manually (like most of us) would ever actively seek out the QA.

    Anyways, I don’t think anyone did anything wrong here by the letter of the law (DK or ChipotleAddict). Everything was done correctly under the rules, but I guess the main complaint from users here is that should the rule be changed? That’s the vibe I’m getting? Nothing was actually done wrong under the current rules.

    For me, I have no fight in this since I don’t even play the QAs so I don’t honestly really care whatever decision they rule.

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