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  • kidballistic

    As a die hard/life long Kentucky fan, this is unbelievable news. The 2 of them have been playing together in summer pickup games in Lexington for years. They know each other very well. The Pelicans are certainly flipping the script and going in the opposite direction as the Warriors in building a team.

  • dopeismarcus

    @BUFUu2 said...

    well this will be fun to watch, duncan and Robinson were nicknamed the twin towers…. will brow and boogie be nicknamed 911 or is that to much….. Not being rude but it would be kind of cool in memory of those who have lost.

  • therayray81

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    So if you wanted Buddy Hield so bad why didn’t you just move up two spots and get him in the draft? Vivek Ranadive is possibly the worst mind in sports. This franchise is so bad.

  • rebkell

    Woj had a podcast today/yesterday talking exclusively about the trade, they didn’t blast Sacramento, they didn’t give them a free pass or anything, but surprisingly they didn’t seem to think it was the worst thing ever from the Sacramento end.

  • superstars92

    @therayray81 said...

    So if you wanted Buddy Hield so bad why didn’t you just move up two spots and get him in the draft? Vivek Ranadive is possibly the worst mind in sports. This franchise is so bad.

    Well to be fair to him, maybe he wasn’t that high on Buddy during the draft. He only realized his potential greatness after seeing him average 8.6 points a game on 36% from 3 this season.

    I’m just kidding of course. Vivek is a pretty bad owner but he surrounds himself with just as bad people. I mean Vlade probably is the worst negotiator in sports given what he just recently said about having a better offer 2 days ago.

  • bigstacks2015

    One guy can’t stay on the court because of injuries, the other guy can’t stay on the court because he’s a head case. I’m not buying.

  • bigstacks2015

    @sjs1890 said...

    DraftStreet DSBC Finalist 2013 DraftStreet DSBC Finalist DraftStreet DSBC Finalist Are people really comparing Cousins to Duncan and Robinson LOL? Cousins is overrated he averages nearly 4 turnovers a game while shooting around 45%. Duncan and Robinson are sure fire hall of famers with multiple championships. Pelicans wont do anything more than getting a 8 seed and done after 1st round.

    this whole thread was started by an overstatement based on being prisoners of the moment, brow and boogie are not even close to Duncan and Robinson, if you think they are you should be banned from this forum forever. Boogie and Brow are great DFS stat stuffers not Championship Caliber Hall of Famers.

  • rebkell

    @bigstacks2015 said...

    this whole thread was started by an overstatement based on being prisoners of the moment, brow and boogie are not even close to Duncan and Robinson, if you think they are you should be banned from this forum forever. Boogie and Brow are great DFS stat stuffers not Championship Caliber Hall of Famers.

    I’m not sure where the title of this thread came from, it didn’t start out with that title, if my memory is correct, some where along the line the title of the thread got changed or there were threads merged or something.

  • Potsmoke

    @tyrique730 said...

    pelicans will be a threar to warriors next year they need another good guard.

    Just don’t see it happening, I have a feeling this is going to be a big disappointment for NO fans. They have two centers and Jrue and NOTHING ELSE.

  • kidballistic

    @bigstacks2015 said...

    this whole thread was started by an overstatement based on being prisoners of the moment, brow and boogie are not even close to Duncan and Robinson, if you think they are you should be banned from this forum forever. Boogie and Brow are great DFS stat stuffers not Championship Caliber Hall of Famers.

    I started this thread with the intentions of people talking about the trade. And after four pages of responses, I would say that it was a success. The question of Cousins/Davis being the best big men SINCE Robinson/Duncan was not a statement. I didn’t say they were better. I asked are they the best big men since that duo. And I believe they are. Who knows how they will end up in career comparison. Robinson and Duncan were 2 very special NBA players. And made the most of a short amount of time together. Cousins and Davis could potentially play together for many years to come. They are both talented enough to make some history. It may take time to adjust but I’m certain that they will be a matchup nightmare for the rest of the league. So going back to the original thread…are they best big men since Robinson/Duncan? I believe they are.

  • jgtl25

    @superstars92 said...

    Vivek is a pretty bad owner but he surrounds himself with just as bad people. I mean Vlade probably is the worst negotiator in sports given what he just recently said about having a better offer 2 days ago.

    After reading this thread again, this is one of the few things I would agree with. The kings management/owner situation is by far the worst in the association. The kings are by far the worst managed team in the league and I do feel bad for their season ticket holders (even if its a small #) Waiving Barnes was just the icing on the cake for how poorly negotiated and executed this move actually was. Whats my take out of all this? WCS. Buddy also interesting but at the moment the guard situation is all *****up?

    Yeah Barnes is 36, a fully tatted thug, chugs a bottle of henny post-game on twitter, complains to the refs alot, etc… but why would they drop him? He has played his ass off the past month for them. just does not make any sense to me since you traded Cassipi away? He was their only legit SF left, now its just a cluttered guard situation and “Browgie” are over priced. Yes, I said Browgie.

  • rebkell

    @jgtl25 said...

    and davis/cousins prices need to come down.

    I’m sure they will, they were already up and they couldn’t/wouldn’t change the prices evidently, referring to DK. I feel fairly certain they will be somewhat lower the next game they play, especially Cousins. I’ll have LP tuned in on Thursday to both games, I’ve been watching Sacramento all year, that will be interesting just to see what kind of rotations they trot out there, they may end up with twin towers too, but who knows, they’re definitely a mess, Evans can play SF if he’s actually healthy.

  • jgtl25

    @rebkell said...

    Evans can play SF if he’s actually healthy.

    Agree, but should not of waived barnes AND trade Cassipi is my point.

  • nateW

    Kings got the better end of the deal. Pelicans got a cancer that can’t be cured ever. He will bring that team down and they will want to get rid of him. Cousins is not a winner and never will be a winner. Neither is Davis. They put up huge numbers but they don’t win. Kings on the other hand have a lot of guards now with big upside. They will have a chance to open up their games now that Cousins is gone. No telling how good Collison and Lawson will be now that they will have the green light. I think people will be surprise with the Kings in the next few weeks, but NO will be a huge disappointment. Cousins and Davis will put up huge numbers, but when it comes time to win the game they will F it up as usual.

  • jgtl25

    @nateW said...

    Kings on the other hand have a lot of guards now with big upside. They will have a chance to open up their games now that Cousins is gone.

    Maybe, but who? On top of it , whoever it is, it wont be enough. Their building around Buddy, I guess? The team is a mess.

    Sounds a little harsh calling out Davis and Boogie like that, even though I agree somewhat. The bottom line is Pelicans improved yet are not legit without a legit 3pt shooter. Outside of Jrue/Boogie/Davis, the team sucks. Cassipi will help but his ceiling is low

  • rebkell

    @jgtl25 said...

    Agree, but should not of waived barnes AND trade Cassipi is my point.

    Yeah, that is weird, maybe they plan some more moves, what kind I’m not sure. I saw an interview today with Cousins and Casspi, evidently they are close as well, Cousins went with Casspi to his home in Israel a couple of years back and it sounded like they were pretty good pals in the interview. Kings management may be clearing out anybody that they figured was a good friend of Cousins, they wanted a complete clean slate with no one that was even close to Boogie. aka waiving Barnes, hell they could have probably gotten something for him, a 2nd rounder three years from now, they still have to pay him don’t they?

  • sjs1890

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBC Finalist

    @kidballistic said...

    So going back to the original thread…are they best big men since Robinson/Duncan? I believe they are.

    Shaq and whoever is better than Davis/Cousins.

  • escot4

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    @nateW said...

    I think people will be surprise with the Kings in the next few weeks

    I’ll be surprised if less than half their games end with them getting blown out by over 20.

  • bigstacks2015

    @kidballistic said...

    I started this thread with the intentions of people talking about the trade. And after four pages of responses, I would say that it was a success. The question of Cousins/Davis being the best big men SINCE Robinson/Duncan was not a statement. I didn’t say they were better. I asked are they the best big men since that duo. And I believe they are. Who knows how they will end up in career comparison. Robinson and Duncan were 2 very special NBA players. And made the most of a short amount of time together. Cousins and Davis could potentially play together for many years to come. They are both talented enough to make some history. It may take time to adjust but I’m certain that they will be a matchup nightmare for the rest of the league. So going back to the original thread…are they best big men since Robinson/Duncan? I believe they are.

    It’s a ridiculous question to ask because they are not remotely close to the level of Duncan and Robinson. You’re allowing your Kentucky fandom to get in the way of reality.

  • billholler

    @bigstacks2015 said...

    It’s a ridiculous question to ask because they are not remotely close to the level of Duncan and Robinson. You’re allowing your Kentucky fandom to get in the way of reality.

    Pretty sure he stated multiple times that he wasn’t comparing the 2 pairs. Cousins and Brow have yet to play a real game together and Robinson and Duncan had a decade together. How about we let them play a game or two before we completely disregard their potential?

  • escot4

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    @bigstacks2015 said...

    It’s a ridiculous question to ask because they are not remotely close to the level of Duncan and Robinson. You’re allowing your Kentucky fandom to get in the way of reality.

    I think you’re misunderstanding the meaning of the word “SINCE.” He has repeatedly said that he thinks Cousins and Davis will be the best big-man duo SINCE Duncan and Robinson… to clarify, that means AFTER Duncan and Robinson, not including them. Seriously, dude…

  • bigstacks2015

    @escot4 said...

    I think you’re misunderstanding the meaning of the word “SINCE.” He has repeatedly said that he thinks Cousins and Davis will be the best big-man duo SINCE Duncan and Robinson… to clarify, that means AFTER Duncan and Robinson, not including them. Seriously, dude…

    my apologies, I misread the comment. Thank you for directing my attention to the operative word “since”. It was a very important word that was overlooked on my part.

  • escot4

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    @bigstacks2015 said...

    my apologies, I misread the comment. Thank you for directing my attention to the operative word “since”. It was a very important word that was overlooked on my part.

    No problem. Sorry if I was a little douchey in my response (I think I was).

  • therayray81

    • 2011 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

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    @nateW said...

    Kings on the other hand have a lot of guards now with big upside. They will have a chance to open up their games now that Cousins is gone. No telling how good Collison and Lawson will be now that they will have the green light.

    This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke.

  • escot4

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    Yeah, I think Collison will actually lose value after this trade. His percentages will drop due to having to take tougher shots, and he’ll probably sit out lots of 4th quarters. There have already been tons of blowouts this year in the NBA, and those always increase after the all-star break when teams decide between tanking and making a playoff run. The Kings will be like last year’s Sixers, only without any hope for the future.

  • donqxte10

    New Orleans just pulled off a blockbuster trade which, on paper, places arguably the two best big men in the NBA on the same team. With that said, as we have seen in Golden State w/ Steph Curry, adding another superstar may improve the team in real-life, but it may ultimately hamper the fantasy statistics of the stars that join forces. I believe this will be the case in New Orleans…

    (*** I play on FanDuel, but my opinion generally applies to all fantasy sites ***)
    With no sample data to pull from, I am not comfortable paying 10K+ for AD ($10,600) or Boogie ($11,000) until I see how their lineup plays out. It’s impossible to maintain the USG% (Boogie – 37.5% / AD – 32.5%) they have both had with the other guy now on the court at the same time. Furthermore, New Orleans is now loaded at the #3 – #5 spots with O,Asik, A.Ajinca, D.Cunningham, T.Jones, Solomon Hill, Omri Casspi, and even Donatas Motiejunas coming off the bench. I could see them both settling into the low to mid $9000 range by the end of the season seeing as how they still will both have elite ceilings on any given night, but their USG% and shot attempts will more than likely see a decrease.

    Quick Fact: In their last 10 games, (at their current prices) AD has only hit 5X value 4 times, and Boogies has only hit 5X value 3 times.

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