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  • srolleDFS

    crazygabey was interviewed in the latest new york times hit piece. he said that what was happening between some players of varying skill levels was akin to rape (and pillaging). when someone loses $5 in dfs they end up without that $5. nothing else happens. they may have to scale their next bar tab back to $45, or maybe suffer some other inconvenience of being $5 poorer. when someone is raped, something much much more signifcant happens. the two are not comparable, and its not ok to triviaize rape by comapring them.

    maybe gabey thinks they are? maybe he hasnt actually ever thought about the words he uses? i dont know but its offensive.

    Link to article: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/magazine/how-the-daily-fantasy-sports-industry-turns-fans-into-suckers.html?_r=0

  • 1stRdDraughtPick

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Well, WE as daily DFS guys know that…but we are talking about new players. The commercial says, “Sign-up, Play, Win Money”. Now, I know, I know all advertising is inherently slanted to paint best case scenario, but when the entire industry’s sales pitch is based on this I don’t think it is a surprise that people freaked out when they found out 95% of the money is won by 1 % of the player pool.

    Of course they had to know that there were people that were very good at this. But i not sure they were aware these players were throwing $100K a night around, dumpster diving in $1-5 contests and multi-entering 10% of the field.

    This matters and it was ALL avoidable if the industry leaders had any foresight to understand the true consequences. But they were too busy counting rake, airing commercials and appeasing mass volume requests. Then they played duck and cover. Then the poop hit the fan.

    What happens next is on them, not on the RG community or any other comment that is read on this board by any state AG.

    Exactly! Well said, dude_abides7. Could have been avoided, but that would have required more foresight, and foresight doesn’t exist through green-tinted glasses.

    “Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear, and greed.”
    ~ Albert Einstein

  • 1stRdDraughtPick

    @Gotembaseball said...

    Here is the reality. Sites will have to settle these class action law suits because these site CHANGED THE TOS TO CATER TO THE 1%. High volume players broke the rules and the rules were changed for the high volume players. Forget everything else that has been discussed. This alone is grounds for a VIABLE class action lawsuit.

    STOP SITTING HERE DEFENDING THE SITES. THEY SCREWED ALMOST ALL OF YOU. People just dont want to admit they got shitted on. You may be a winning player but the reality is you’d be winning a TON more if the sites didnt cater to the 1%.

    LAST THING
    YOU ARE NOT IN THE CLUB

    Spot on!

  • Cal

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    @1stRdDraughtPick said...

    My random thoughts after reading, combined with over a year of playing almost all DFS sports:

    • “bumhunting” is a bummer.
    • could the big sites operate on 5% take rather than 10? Perhaps that would help balance out where the $ is going?
    • If the big DFS sites don’t shift tactics in such ways that stop catering to the elite players (who pay lots of rake and thus get treated well for doing so), the industry will fall. Examine history and see that this is always the result.
    DFS is fun and should be allowed to exist. There are regulations that could be put in place that would still allow those who commit more research time to have advantages over those who fill lineups with their favorite players and “gut calls”.
    • finally, I realize that many elite players spend a lot of time here, and surely don’t agree with most of my points, so slam me if you will. I just hope people will read the linked article above, as well as other current DFS news and get a comprehensive view of what’s going on in the industry.
    • finally, finally…I miss CrazyGabey’s NBA podcasts.

    Definitely changes needed, and many changes have been in motion since the MA Attorney General released regulations in November. This was well before the NY Times article.

    Here are the proposed regulations if you’d like to read them.

    http://www.mass.gov/ago/consumer-resources/consumer-information/dfs/

    Multi entry, labeling experienced players, scripting, and more are addressed. The Regs are still being discussed but both FD and DK are already putting a lot of resources towards compliance. This could end up being the blueprint for regulation.

    We’ll see more and more changes coming in the short term.

  • 1stRdDraughtPick

    @CrazyGabey said...

    If you think what I talked about was dirt, I have no idea what to call everything I didn’t talk about.

    Once again, Jay does not work for the Times, he works for The New Yorker. And he came to me.

    Sounds like you’re implying that there are more details not yet revealed (“everything I didn’t talk about”), and that they are even more incrimidating to the industry. Is this the case? I’m gonna guess your answer: “maybe”. Heh, just assuming it might not be the time or place for you to speak more; nonetheless I had to ask.

    Keep fighting for what’s right, Gabey, and thank you for not being afraid to rustle feathers.

  • 1stRdDraughtPick

    @Cal said...

    Here are the proposed regulations if you’d like to read them.

    http://www.mass.gov/ago/consumer-resources/consumer-information/dfs/

    Multi entry, labeling experienced players, scripting, and more are addressed. The Regs are still being discussed but both FD and DK are already putting a lot of resources towards compliance. This could end up being the blueprint for regulation.

    We’ll see more and more changes coming in the short term.

    Thanks for these links, Cal. Definitely going to read and catch up with the latest. Hoping for positive news and changes!

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    Gabey,you have been implying that you have alot more thoughts and facts that you have not divulged to the public.Why are you holding back that info? Hopefully you are not looking for a possible payday from any site to keep your mouth shut at this point,if what you are holding back is really truthful and DFS relevant ..
    You got something more to say that you are curently hiding from the public,well why not do the right thing and say it? If you are for the little guy’ well you do have a platform..Spill da beans brother!
    MRCOOKONUTS
    DFS-EPFA Equal Playing Field Association
    (Fictitious Organization)😊

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