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  • hanezg

    I’m 23 years old, just graduated college and got my real estate license. I’m currently working for a commercial real estate firm and I like what I do for the most part. However, I’ve always had a huge love for sports, and not just watching them, but playing them, keeping up with stats, etc. I know it seems weird to put everything on the table, but I’m in a conundrum. I feel like most people take the safe route when it comes to job security and the usual route after one graduates school. Any thoughts and ideas would be super helpful to me, I enjoy everyone’s togetherness and camaraderie on RG. Thanks and god bless

  • noddy

    I’m 50 and I’m sick of working. If I were in your shoes I’d go for it. You can always get a job if it doesn’t work out. You’ll need a bankroll though. Do you have one? Do what you are passionate about is all I can say.

  • Shipmymoney

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    It really depends on you as a person and what your other options are. Even if you are profitable enough to sustain the lifestyle that you want, the answer is going to be different for everyone because some people are better at dealing with the stress of downswings than others, people have different opportunity costs as far as what they are giving up, etc. For me, I took a leave of absence from law school about a year ago to play full-time. I was in a nice position because I got a year to try it out and see how it went and, if it didn’t work out, I still would have my scholarship and could finish school. I am not going back to school, but I will say that relying on it entirely for money is about 100 times as stressful as I expected it to be. I don’t stress easily, but after about 5-6 months of swings it really started to get to me. I decided at that point that I either was going to go back to school when the year was up or I was going to start contributing to DFS sites so that I would have extra, stable, money coming in that would help me deal with the swings better mentally and would also possibly get my foot in the door for sports writing jobs that I may enjoy down the road if/when I get tired of playing DFS full time.

    Long story short, even if you actually are good enough to make a living playing, it really depends on you as a person and what you are giving up. I can say from experience though that there is definitely a learning curve and a lot of stress that comes along with doing it for a living.

  • superstars92

    Why can’t you do both?

    I’m basically the same age as you, and I work in trading (like 8-6 at a small prop trading place – thankfully not a bank), and I am able to do both. I sometimes can’t do DFS every day because the hours don’t work out, but all I really need is like 30 mins to submit like 20 NBA lineups every night, and I should be fine. I think it should be the same case with you? What do you need that would take say multiple hours that you would need to quit your job? You can do those things on the weekend, so that the only real time you need during the workdays are to submit lineups and process news information. I’m not the greatest DFS player and I can still get better, but I have a really good ROI and ranking despite not doing it full time, so you should be able to make that work too.

    I think it really depends on your job/what do you want to do with your job. So for example, if your job is about impressing your boss/face time, then it probably isn’t the best idea doing DFS because you’ll be spending a lot of time on it and not focusing on your job impressing people. However, if your job is like more of a meritocracy (like it’s just about results – say selling houses if you are in real estate or finding new discoveries if you are in pharma or coding new programs if you are in tech or PNL if you are in finance), then you can do both. If you are super impressive on your job, I don’t think people will care if you even spend work time doing DFS. It seems like you are in real estate. I am not sure how that works, but if you are basically judged on the number of clients/houses/apartments you sell/rent, then I think you don’t necessarily even have to work that many hours at your normal job. Just be super good in the hours you do work and allot the rest of the time to DFS. That’s why I am pretty happy I don’t like work in a bank. I would think it would be much harder that way for me to do both because that’s just about face-time/sucking up to your boss, so I wouldn’t be able to focus as much on DFS.

    I definitely don’t recommend quitting your job at your age. It’s not worth it. You need that stable form of income, no matter how good you are at DFS. Plus, I am sure you can make both work out. I’m also super risk seeking too (probably more risk seeking than 99.9% of people that I know), and I still don’t think it’s a good idea for any of us at our age to quit our job and play DFS full time.

  • Kevin

    I would like to tell you that you can always find another job, and to do what you really feel you want to do, but I don’t think that would be the best advice to give you. You are very young, being 23 years old, and sometimes even at that age, you don’t really know yet what you really want to do with your life. I got out of the Navy, went to college and graduated with a radio/tv production degree, but after school couldn’t find a job in that field. At that time, there was no DFS, or other ways to make money playing fantasy sports, so I had to take what jobs were available at the time because I needed a “safety blanket”, or money so I could actually pay my bills, and have a place to live. For me at that time, I rather would have been doing work in the field I went to school for, but instead worked 3 minor jobs at the same time to pay the bills. Now, you may not have to work three jobs to be able to live as you’d like, but like I did, I think it would be smart to at least keep one job for more of a financial safety net. I eventually went back to school again to do something I thought I’d like a whole lot more than I do, and that was to get my RN degree, and no matter how much I’d like to quit that, and start a business on my own, I know there’s a lot of risk involved in doing that. The money is great at my job, and I know I can do it, and I’m good at it, but even at age 45 I’m not doing a job that I ever envisioned doing. Maybe in the future an opportunity will arise, and I may jump at it, but I’m now at the point in life that I don’t want to take steps backwards. I keep DFS as a sort of “hobby”, and though I’d like to be able to do consistently well at it, it sometimes isn’t always possible. You’ll have good periods, and bad periods, but I know odds, and that the games are stacked against you, so I try to take every advantage I’m given the opportunity to take, and overall, I still lose a lot. I’d hate to tell you that you should stay at your job, especially if you are not fond of it, but I wouldn’t feel responsible, unless I told you to at least have something in place to help you financially when you hit those losing periods. I’m not sure how your job works either, but, at least in nursing, there are things you can do, like going part-time
    If you may want to put more time into other things, and maybe that would be a possibility, as well. Then, you may be able to keep a foot in the door, in case it all goes wrong, and you need money to pay your bills. Hope this helps you. Take care!

  • ChrisGimino

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    It took me over 2 years and an awful lot of success to convince myself to leave an amazing job to play and write about DFS full time. I strongly urge you to go to be very careful before you enter the tank. You need to have a very clear understanding of where you can win, and where you cannot over a larger sample. You should spend whatever time you can allocate to DFS learning that before you drop your key income stream.

    Go to work. Save money. Train yourself in DFS when you have time. Don’t get crazy just yet.

  • Dadeano860

    @hanezg said...

    I’m 23 years old, just graduated college and got my real estate license. I’m currently working for a commercial real estate firm and I like what I do for the most part. However, I’ve always had a huge love for sports, and not just watching them, but playing them, keeping up with stats, etc. I know it seems weird to put everything on the table, but I’m in a conundrum. I feel like most people take the safe route when it comes to job security and the usual route after one graduates school. Any thoughts and ideas would be super helpful to me, I enjoy everyone’s togetherness and camaraderie on RG.

    Yolo. Take your bankroll and go for it. Heck, go all in. Move to Canada, become a Canadian citizen so you don’t have to pay winnings. You’ll be rich!

    No, honestly, I’d focus on my career and if you are a guy without a family, there’s plenty of time for both. Dfs is never going to be more than a fun (hopefully profitable) hobby for us. Get a job with good benefits, start paying those loans and see how dfs goes with whatever disposable bankroll you have. Maybe you win a big GPP or have success where maybe you can turn it into something bigger.

  • castaway1

    Do both. Having a real job to fall back on will give you bankroll security because let’s face it, there are going to be ups and downs. Sure it won’t make you a badass, full-time “real” gambler but who really cares? You’re doing this for you, and you’re better off with several sources of income while you’re growing both in your career and DFS (if it’s even around in a recognizable form in 10 years).

  • AlexSonty

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    I’m on Team Do Both. Master multiple crafts and you will change hats through life. You are at a fantastic age to extend yourself in terms of income streams and passion projects—not in need of much sleep and no dependents. At your age, I was in my first year of grad school, playing poker, and bartending. Bartending, obviously, had nothing to do with my degree, but it was nice cash, kept me from being a total hermit, and I liked it. There is absolutely no way my body, mind, soul/spirit/whatever could handle half of that now, in my mid-30s. I greatly appreciate living 2-4 roles any given day at that age, though I wish I better appreciated that privilege at the time.

    I am of the mind that very little lasts forever, including passions. Some are less motivated with that line of thinking, but this helps me maximize my experiences and what I give/take to the roles in my life before they are gone.

  • Ibleedblue1

    @hanezg said...

    Thx for the encouragement, got mad respect for my man Jakz101

    I am unsure if Eric has ever had a ‘real’ job…..

  • jimfred82

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    I have a buddy who is a realtor and the dude has more time than he knows what to do with. In my opinion, just sell houses and play DFS. I don’t think you have to sacrifice one to have the other…. and DFS is still relatively new and about every year, people think it’s done, so just tread lightly. People may not always have DFS, but people will always need houses!

  • joonyari22

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    as many said above, it really comes down to what your intended goal is with DFS – once the game becomes too important, alot of the joy is likely to get sapped right out of the experience. I work in IT sales and have sustained DFS profitability for the last 2 years and often wonder what it would take to grind full time. What I always ultimately fall back on is the reasonable goal i set when i first started winning consistently – I want to play DFS every day, buy myself or my wife something nice every once and a while and never have to deposit ever again. The jobby job always comes first though. Keep your job IMO – but if you go pro and can pull it off – salut!

  • Cityworkout

    DFS is not stable and the profitability has gotten worse. It is difficult to be profitable in cash games to the point where you can make enough consistently. If you can’t make DFS work part time then it won’t work.

    I don’t play DFS anymore. I find true enjoyment from following the NBA and other various sports.

  • nita0311

    Im an accountant for the VA and I do both, but seriously… let me hit for a big prize and I might be calling off work like every other week LOL. No seriously, I’m bout to get my sports journalism degree and just applied to Connecticut School of Broadcasting-Boston Campus. Everything is for a reason. I play DFS cause I’m good at numbers and if I can master this craft, it will definitely stay my second income. Don’t quit your job, you need the benefits. But do late tournaments if the bigger ones cut into your time. That’s what I do on days I can’t really research to long. I hope whatever decision you make works out for you. Peace.

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