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  • squidkill

    So Seth Yates ran 3 SB pools on twitter. Took 3 K from all different people via PayPal and Venmo and never paid out the winners. He hasn’t tweeted since Super Bowl Sunday but has been active on RG as early as yesterday. I wasn’t a victim but he just screwed 3 K from members of the DFS community and maybe some people in this very forum. He was an Active poster on RG and also wrote a few columns in the past. Anyone hear anything? The guy use to tweet everyday all day and now nothing. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • Felixxberg

    I can’t wait to see how that ends up!

    The only reason I know him is because he helped me win $2.5K in a GPP during the NFL preseason in 2017 with his $20 package. It was dumb luck as I knew no one he mentioned and just picked them randomly. Kind of ironic that he would need that $2.5K now!

    Running a one time $3K scam doesn’t make any sense to me, but I guess it worked.

  • jtkucheck

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I don’t understand the logic. You’re going to show up at his house? The local newspaper is going to write a story about a guy on the internet who organized a $3,000 Super Bowl Squares pool and then didn’t pay out? What does the “pressuring” accomplish?

    Paying what one owes is about incentives, as you’ve alluded to.

    Currently, the incentives are not great enough for him to make the payments, or he would have.

    I have no idea what is important to Seth, i.e. what I would need to do to get him to alter his perception of incentives. I also don’t have anything at stake here since I didn’t play in his squares pool. Frankly, I probably would just write off whatever I won as a loss and move on, but others may not feel that way. Discouraging them from attempting to collect seems odd. How people choose to alter Seth’s incentives is up to them, and obviously those choices have their own individual incentives as well.

  • VRod305

    @briski514 said...

    Referring to waiting for payday. Well , think about it. He is /was a govt contractor. They get paid the 1st and 15th of the month. Also, they are owed back pay from the shutdown. You may be on to something here.

    I interned for a government company and worked with government contractors. I’ve also applied for plenty of government positions. These people are paid very well. They aren’t making 8.25 an hour trying to squeak by. That’s not a real excuse. There is something else going on here.

  • osuryanf

  • thedude404

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    What tha? That’s alot of baking powder (I hope).

  • Messiah717

    @thedude404 said...

    What tha? That’s alot of baking powder (I hope).

  • flip4flop

    As some one who works in the federal government I suspect he may have a security clearance as well based on his background if I remember right. They don’t look kindly upon delinquent gambling issues or DUIs. He likely is or already in the process of losing his clearance and possibly his job from his NOV arrest. If this type of information gets back to the adjudicators he is pretty much toast for his career.

  • Evanv03

    I just wanted to add my point of view in as I’ve been following this and sat aside just reading this all. I’m not ever active on this community but follow a lot and have been playing for years. I started following Seth a while back like many others for his preseason dfs picks for football and grew to love his content because it was the odd ball stuff. I also joined his twitter super bowl boxes this year for the first year unfortunately lol. But I knew something was off right away. He was very late and non responsive with issues and questions about them which I knew was Avery unlike him. Then the last box was hand written out? Seemed very suspect to me at the time but never answered any of my dms about it. He kinda screwed me and separated my boxes on different boards when payment was sent all at once for same board. He didn’t care something was up and because of my experience in this all I kinda do believe that it was planned or he screwed up in some kind of way with the money betting but something was off from day one of these boxes this year for a fact. That is all lol. Thanks guys.

  • Russthabus26

    @Evanv03 said...

    I just wanted to add my point of view in as I’ve been following this and sat aside just reading this all. I’m not ever active on this community but follow a lot and have been playing for years. I started following Seth a while back like many others for his preseason dfs picks for football and grew to love his content because it was the odd ball stuff. I also joined his twitter super bowl boxes this year for the first year unfortunately lol. But I knew something was off right away. He was very late and non responsive with issues and questions about them which I knew was Avery unlike him. Then the last box was hand written out? Seemed very suspect to me at the time but never answered any of my dms about it. He kinda screwed me and separated my boxes on different boards when payment was sent all at once for same board. He didn’t care something was up and because of my experience in this all I kinda do believe that it was planned or he screwed up in some kind of way with the money betting but something was off from day one of these boxes this year for a fact. That is all lol. Thanks guys.

    I can’t disagree with this much more. I sent 100 asked for separated boxes 5 on 1 and 2 and then sent 40 more for the 3rd which i got a refund for not even 20 minutes after i sent it because it was full. He did everything i asked. I simply think he made a dumb mistake or two and appears to be intent on snowballing it.

  • Messiah717

    Hopefully, people will learn a lesson. Don’t PayPal a stranger money. These SB box games are all over the place every year. You can find tons of them to play through people you work with or have some relationship with other than an internet familiarity.

  • Lee123

    Should RG have some type of statement lr investigation given he is/was/maybe part time employed or freelanced with them?

  • Touchole

    @Lee123 said...

    Should RG have some type of statement lr investigation given he is/was/maybe part time employed or freelanced with them?

    That is a ridiculous question.

    He has not been a part of RG for well over a year.

  • squidkill

    @Messiah717 said...

    Hopefully, people will learn a lesson. Don’t PayPal a stranger money. These SB box games are all over the place every year. You can find tons of them to play through people you work with or have some relationship with other than an internet familiarity.

    But he was a nice guy. He complimented me. He groomed me. He brought me into his lair.

  • Lee123

    @Messiah717 said...

    Hopefully, people will learn a lesson. Don’t PayPal a stranger money. These SB box games are all over the place every year. You can find tons of them to play through people you work with or have some relationship with other than an internet familiarity.

    Agreed, I dont care how much trust the person has built with you. At any point, someone can complete disconnect themselves and leave you in the dust.

  • squidkill

    @Lee123 said...

    Agreed, I dont care how much trust the person has built with you. At any point, someone can complete disconnect themselves and leave you in the dust.

    This is how my wife left me …. 😩

  • BIF

    @flip4flop said...

    As some one who works in the federal government I suspect he may have a security clearance as well based on his background if I remember right. They don’t look kindly upon delinquent gambling issues or DUIs. He likely is or already in the process of losing his clearance and possibly his job from his NOV arrest. If this type of information gets back to the adjudicators he is pretty much toast for his career.

    I like where you are going here Flip; an eye for an eye – he messes with people’s financials and now we mess with his !!

    When we are done with him, the $3K is going to be nothing in comparison to Divorce, Court/Legal costs, Division of Assets, Child Support Payments, Loss of Job and Future Opportunities.

    All that could have been unnecessary if he didn’t take us all for idiots and if didn’t just tell the truth and come clean instead of taking 10 days to come up with a BS “I’m a victim” story where a “friend” had his phone while he was in rehab.

    Go get ‘me boys !!

    Public Shaming – check
    Get to the truth – check
    Get him fired – soon
    Someone kicks the shit out of him – we can only hope !

    I’m sorry guys but I have zero tolerance for this.

  • flip4flop

    @BIF said...

    I like where you are going here Flip; an eye for an eye – he messes with people’s financials and now we mess with his !!

    When we are done with him, the $3K is going to be nothing in comparison to Divorce, Court/Legal costs, Division of Assets, Child Support Payments, Loss of Job and Future Opportunities.

    All that could have been unnecessary if he didn’t take us all for idiots and if didn’t just tell the truth and come clean instead of taking 10 days to come up with a BS “I’m a victim” story where a “friend” had his phone while he was in rehab.

    Go get ‘me boys !!

    Public Shaming – check
    Get to the truth – check
    Get him fired – soon
    Someone kicks the shit out of him – we can only hope !

    I’m sorry guys but I have zero tolerance for this.

    I never said that what I said was this stuff doesn’t end well for someone in this type of situation. The investigators will find out without anyone telling them anything. I was just making a point that he is screwing himself even more for a small amount of money. Doesn’t seem worth it

  • Bam79

    @BIF said...

    I’m sorry guys but I have zero tolerance for this.

    I’m the same, BIF.

    I hope he’s reminded and called out for this every single time he makes his presence known online until those he ripped off are made whole, and I hope everyone in his personal life treats him the same.

  • BIF

    @flip4flop said...

    I never said that what I said was this stuff doesn’t end well for someone in this type of situation. The investigators will find out without anyone telling them anything. I was just making a point that he is screwing himself even more for a small amount of money. Doesn’t seem worth it

    I know – sorry I wasn’t suggesting you said all that but he could be in a heap of trouble with his govt security clearance – not sure how often they get reviewed/renewed in the US but a couple red flags could lead to cancellation of it.

    I just hate seeing/hearing about this kind of crap and always hope for a stiff penalty and/or a severe beating.

  • flip4flop

    @BIF said...

    I know – sorry I wasn’t suggesting you said all that but he could be in a heap of trouble with his govt security clearance – not sure how often they get reviewed/renewed in the US but a couple red flags could lead to cancellation of it.

    I just hate seeing/hearing about this kind of crap and always hope for a stiff penalty and/or a severe beating.

    If he self reports it will help him immensely so Seth if you do read this please do that. If it gets discovered in a review. (Depending in his clearance level could be 5/6 years) it will end badly. It could also already be being investigated based on the recent DUI. Best thing he can do is self report and seek help. Usually that will result in a lighter punishment or suspension as long as it wasn’t serious.

  • squidkill

    @BIF said...

    I know – sorry I wasn’t suggesting you said all that but he could be in a heap of trouble with his govt security clearance – not sure how often they get reviewed/renewed in the US but a couple red flags could lead to cancellation of it.

    I just hate seeing/hearing about this kind of crap and always hope for a stiff penalty and/or a severe beating.

    Deebo and Raymond would never think of doing this.

  • Messiah717

    @squidkill said...

    Deebo and Raymond would never think of doing this.

    They’re lucky they can make cereal.

  • MHDU2424

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    Still baffled that someone would do this for $3000…if you’re that desperate just take out a credit card or loan

    Pretty sure anyone affected (and even those not) can find out everything they want about him and make his life a living hell

    One of the dumbest ideas in a while on a risk/reward scale

    Never mind just living with yourself as a complete scumbag every day

  • squidkill

    @Messiah717 said...

    They’re lucky they can make cereal.

  • sgaffney

    Ahhh an RG thread just like the old days. It’s been a while!

    As people pointed out earlier in the thread that ‘friend’ post when they casually threw in ‘RG’ was great, if you’re gonna bullshit us at least proofread a little more.

    I don’t know how many of you play DFS MMA but something like this happened with a season long league and a decent bit more money than 3k. The guy went dark but was also popping up sporadically with bullshit excuses. I think he eventually paid everyone out but it was clear he didn’t have the money and was working to get it back bit by bit.

    It’s a shame, seth did(does? he’s not dead as far as we know) seem like a decent guy but clearly some personal demons and I think a ‘sure bet’ drunken wager is the most likely outcome along with miraculously appearing back sometime after pay day with a similar rehab story and offering to start paying people back.

    That’s what my $100 is on anyway, if seth’s friend is taking bets

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