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  • squidkill

    So Seth Yates ran 3 SB pools on twitter. Took 3 K from all different people via PayPal and Venmo and never paid out the winners. He hasn’t tweeted since Super Bowl Sunday but has been active on RG as early as yesterday. I wasn’t a victim but he just screwed 3 K from members of the DFS community and maybe some people in this very forum. He was an Active poster on RG and also wrote a few columns in the past. Anyone hear anything? The guy use to tweet everyday all day and now nothing. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • bringemvaught

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    @sethayates said...

    Hi everyone:

    His forum post immediately before this one began as “For Dean:” (use of colon)

  • squirrelpatrol

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    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

  • bringemvaught

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    @sethayates said...

    Hi everyone: I just wanted to make a quick statement on Seth Yates.

    Dear Seth’s friend,

    I hope you get the help that you need. Collectively, we are pulling for you. The longer you are dishonest and the longer you don’t right your wrongs, the worse these things tend to get. I hope you will quickly make amends not only for the people who are out money, but for yourself. Life is full of choices. Make your next one the right one.

  • gvn2fly1421

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

    First, as someone who dealt with alcohol abuse from numerous family members (one to the point it killed him), I seriously hope Seth finds the help he needs. My family member who died, left behind a son who he had custody of. If he indeed has kids, it is no doubt a terrible thing for them to endure. I don’t think enough people understand how big of a problem mental illness truly is.

    To your point, I think these folks have every right to be cynical. I had no money in this, but if I did I would be very cynical. So this guy got drunk on Super Bowl Sunday? Him and everyone else. To me, he would decide to go to rehab after drinking on a random Wednesday night. Not a time when most all Americans are drinking too. And did he check into rehab that night? He woke up the next day and could have paid those folks out, or at least let people know.

  • Southie777

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

    As the kids say, THIS!

  • gvn2fly1421

    @Southie777 said...

    As the kids say, THIS!

    These folks have a right to be cynical. I do not get why y’all think otherwise? Is “in rehab” the new “It’s ok that we collude, we give to charity” in terms of ripping off the DFS community?

  • Muleyhaven

    Lets start a Squares pool on how much of the money is actually left…

    and who logs out of twitter on their phone? If Seth plays DFS he obviously has alerts on…

  • flip4flop

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

    I guess you could front the 3k for him and then he can pay back when able. People have a right to be cynical since nothing is verifiable and we live in an age where this is fairly common practice in the scam world when the money runs out. That plus holes in the post and the odd timing of going into rehab the day after the superbowl?

    Dont get me wrong if true he needs to get help for himself and to take care of his family, but telling people who were screwed out of money to calm down when no one knows the truth is a bit much. Seth has always been a stand up guy from what I have seen in the past so hopefully he comes out the other side better then he went in.

  • MHDU2424

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

    When someone is in the wrong, it’s up to them to prove themselves as believable…not the other way around

    It’s just as likely that it’s Seth posting as a “friend”

    Regardless I hope he gets the help he needs if he really is in rehab, or if life is so pathetic that he had to resort to scamming strangers on the internet for 3k

  • FkCoolers

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    I think some of you are being cynical to the point of being irresponsible. Someone has posted from Seth’s account and made references to rehab, a recent day that got out of control, and suicidal thoughts (spurred on by social media / posts). We don’t know what happened. Let’s leave this be and hope the best for Seth until we get more information.

    I don’t always tell people to be careful what they imply, but when I do I first imply Seth was part of an FBI sting operation and the funds have been seized

    loooooool please never change, Internet forums

  • gordylamb

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    Torn between my thoughts of “assume everyone in the gambling/poker/dfs world is a scumbag until they prove otherwise” and “would this guy really risk his OG dfs reputation over $3k.”

    If true, and I lean heavily towards this being the case, I hope he gets the help that he needs – really enjoy following him on twitter and he’s always come across as a reasonably good person, albeit with some demons. If fake, which this seems unnecessarily elaborate to have a friend pretend to post on your behalf rather than just ghost everyone, just another drop in the bucket for the gambling scam world I suppose.

  • draftcheat

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  • OhioUBobcats

    I just want to thank you all for making this wednesday so much fun.

    Andy, I’ll still pay you $100 to fight him, you can keep the $0.50 of my debt you would have owed me.

  • Bam79

    I’m going to assume that everyone – even those who he has stolen from – want to see him get whatever his issue(s) may be, straightened out for his sake and the sake of his family. However, he needs to be called out for doubling-down with this “Hi, I’m Seth’s friend” nonsense. It’s a very, very weak attempt to shift the focus to him being the victim. You could drive a fleet of trucks through the holes in that narrative..

    As has been said already, he won’t be able to get right until he owns up and is truthful.

  • briski514

  • squidkill

    @FkCoolers said...

    I don’t always tell people to be careful what they imply, but when I do I first imply Seth was part of an FBI sting operation and the funds have been seized

    loooooool please never change, Internet forums

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  • squirrelpatrol

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    The internet is incredible.

    Someone has posted saying there was a downward spiral, rehab is involved, and there is the possibility of suicidal thoughts driven by social media.

    That poster could be telling the whole truth, or could be lying about everything. Nobody knows.

    If you post “I call BS – a bunch of stuff here seems fishy” – and you’re right, you’ve gained the satisfaction of correctly calling the situation on a near-anonymous message board. You’re no closer to getting your money back. If you don’t directly have money involved, you are DEFINITELY not any closer to getting your money back. If you’re right, we’ll never know the truth – the money is gone, Seth is in the wind – so the satisfaction you’re gaining is only in your own head.

    If you are wrong, you’re possibly pushing a fellow human being towards complete devastation.

    Why in the world would anyone post “I call BS” when all you’re doing is saying that you’re a person willing to trade the possibility of complete devastation for another human being in exchange for a tiny, tiny bit of self-satisfaction in your own head?

    Nobody knows what happened, and posting “This is BS” can only lead to a bad outcome.

  • mileyvirus

    the “squirrelpatrol” username is making sense now. Always wondered where you got the idea.

  • bringemvaught

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    @squirrelpatrol said...

    The internet is incredible.

    Someone has posted saying there was a downward spiral, rehab is involved, and there is the possibility of suicidal thoughts driven by social media.

    That poster could be telling the whole truth, or could be lying about everything. Nobody knows.

    If you post “I call BS – a bunch of stuff here seems fishy” – and you’re right, you’ve gained the satisfaction of correctly calling the situation on a near-anonymous message board. You’re no closer to getting your money back. If you don’t directly have money involved, you are DEFINITELY not any closer to getting your money back. If you’re right, we’ll never know the truth – the money is gone, Seth is in the wind – so the satisfaction you’re gaining is only in your own head.

    If you are wrong, you’re possibly pushing a fellow human being towards complete devastation.

    Why in the world would anyone post “I call BS” when all you’re doing is saying that you’re a person willing to trade the possibility of complete devastation for another human being in exchange for a tiny, tiny bit of self-satisfaction in your own head?

    Nobody knows what happened, and posting “This is BS” can only lead to a bad outcome.

    What I am about to say is very important. Whatever ends up happening with Seth, IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. He and he alone is responsible for his actions. Do not bully someone or inflict ill will, but seeking justice is a positive attribute.

  • sochoice

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    You make excellent points Squirrel. However, if Seth is in rehab and not scrolling RG and the Internet, he won’t see this until he is better, if at all. Everyone wins. Cynics (me included) post on here for a day and then go away. Seth gets better and by the time he comes out and gets access to a smartphone again, this thread will be long dead. I think the bigger issue that everyone should be concerned with is that it is slowly turning into Marcus Smart chalk night. That should scare all of us.

  • IAMLorde

    @MHDU2424 said...

    Yeah even if he did get jammed up for this there’s certainly a way to mention something without getting yourself in any further trouble

    I think the most likely scenarios are:

    1) Drug issue
    2) Used money to make bets and lost now buying time
    3) A scam planned the whole time
    4) Some kind of emergency legitimately happened…much less likely but small benefit of the doubt to him since 3k seems small to blow it all up

    The notion that “$3k is a small amount of money, and no one would torch their reputation over $3k” seems incredibly naive to me.

    Look at his DFS volume and track record — this amount of money would be significant for a losing player who enters $5-$75 in action on most slates. Hell, his twitter banner photo is a screenshot of a $4k winning day.

    I can wrap my mind around how a guy might sell their reputation for $3k, particularly if it’s not an especially great reputation (he’s a losing player, after all).

  • Bam79

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    “This is BS” can only lead to a bad outcome.

    Holding people accountable for their actions is what brings change.. If the guy really does need help of some kind, enabling him to deflect blame via obvious bull* is what leads to “bad outcomes.” The DFS industry takes enough heat for “scams”, “scandals”, etc..The only way to minimize that is to hold people accountable.

    No one needs to know the “truth” to know the posted story is nonsense; read it and apply a minimal amount of critical thought, and it’s pretty clear.

    I don’t need to know how tall you are to know that you’re not 8’3”, and you’re lying when you say you are.

  • WhyNotEh

    @squirrelpatrol said...

    If you are wrong, you’re possibly pushing a fellow human being towards complete devastation.

    Why in the world would anyone post “I call BS” when all you’re doing is saying that you’re a person willing to trade the possibility of complete devastation for another human being in exchange for a tiny, tiny bit of self-satisfaction in your own head?

    Except if the people who are calling BS are wrong – as in Seth is actually currently in rehab and a friend is posting on his behalf – this would mean that anything posted here about him actually CAN’T harm him. If he can’t deal with sorting out the missing $3,000 due to having no contact with the world outside of the rehab facility, how do posters questioning the feasibility of the rehab story or pointing out potential gaps push him towards complete devastation? He’s either lying to buy more time – which would mean he should be questioned/cross-examined/called out – or he is in rehab with no phone or internet and therefore can’t be impacted by posters doubting the accuracy of his friend’s statement.

    I have no personal involvement in any of this, but often times the people who have been personally impacted or cheated out of money only uncover the truth by asking reasonable questions (or expressing skepticism) about a murky situation. There is certainly enough missing information here that the two posts from “his friend” may be a complete ruse.

  • OhioUBobcats

    That must have been one hell of a super bowl party.

  • Kmasonbx

    @gvn2fly1421 said...

    To your point, I think these folks have every right to be cynical. I had no money in this, but if I did I would be very cynical. So this guy got drunk on Super Bowl Sunday? Him and everyone else. To me, he would decide to go to rehab after drinking on a random Wednesday night. Not a time when most all Americans are drinking too. And did he check into rehab that night? He woke up the next day and could have paid those folks out, or at least let people know.

    You don’t know the extent to it. What if he got black out drunk woke up the next day house was a total wreck and someone told him how he went crazy and started throwing things all over the place and threatening? I’m sure if he decided to check himself into rehab it wasn’t simply because he got drunk, people tend to reach that point when they did something to hurt someone close to them.

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