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  • mikeyo111

    So what is everyone’s approach to this slate? The pricing makes picking anyone who does well in the Pro Bowl critical to winning a GPP, especially since all the Super Bowl players in what should be a huge shootout are priced through the roof. One of my questions is about Tyreek Hill. He was selected as a special teamer – does that mean he can’t be used as a WR in the game? At $1,900, if he gets any time at WR, he could be a massive value.

  • Messiah717

    Complete shot in the dark gimmick which gives everyone one last taste of football until September. I don’t think Hill will be getting anytime at receiver.

  • bolu

    Hill can play offense. The problem w/him is no kickoffs in Pro Bowl and punts are rare.

  • mikeyo111

    I just looked at some old box scores and guys selected at KR have played their normal position in the game. Leon Washington in 2008 made it as a KR but played RB and had two carries for 22 yards and one catch for 6 yards. At $1,900, Hill could easily hit value on 5 or 6 touches.

  • bolu

    @Messiah717 said...

    Complete shot in the dark gimmick which gives everyone one last taste of football until September. I don’t think Hill will be getting anytime at receiver.

    I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t get time at WR. I think he’ll get at least one catch or carry in this game.

  • BIF

    @bolu said...

    I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t get time at WR. I think he’ll get at least one catch or carry in this game.

    1 catch or carry does not come anywhere near value unless he takes it to the house for a TD

  • btarts

    The KC Coaches are running the show for the AFC Dal for NFC FYI

  • BIF

    @btarts said...

    The KC Coaches are running the show for the AFC Dal for NFC FYI

    So you think they will want to showcase their players ? Or protect them from injury ? I’d lean to protect……

    Anyone look at what past coaching staffs have done with their players ?

  • JSteele

    I’d think that receiving options are a bit of a shot in the dark but those QB prices if you pick the right one could get you 180 yards and 3 TDs like Russell Wilson did last year could give you a lot of options at your other prices.

  • bolu

    @BIF said...

    So you think they will want to showcase their players ? Or protect them from injury ? I’d lean to protect……

    Anyone look at what past coaching staffs have done with their players ?

    Generally protect but depends. I don’t think the Chiefs will be affected much, but I’m expecting the Cowboys to play significantly less than if Garrett wasn’t coaching and be overowned.

  • btarts

    @BIF said...

    So you think they will want to showcase their players ? Or protect them from injury ? I’d lean to protect……

    Anyone look at what past coaching staffs have done with their players ?

    Don’t know, my guess is a vet or player that has been there done that in the Pro Bowl and was hurt at end of NFL season might not play as much. A Rookie or fist time guy that is not hurt might take the game over. They might want it more than the Rich vet that has been to 5 Pro Bowls. I like the KC Dal guys a bit, but no stats to back that up (resting them vs playing them.)

  • Frustrated

    I believe the last time Garrett coached the pro bowl Romo played just 1 series and I don’t think Murray played all that much himself. Not exactly apples to apples considering Dak and Zeke are rookies and Romo and Murray were/are vets but just some food for thought.

  • Messiah717

    It will likely only make sense in your head but you have to come up with your own strategy in this and go with it.

  • tsteeves

    @Messiah717 said...

    It will likely only make sense in your head but you have to come up with your own strategy in this and go with it.

    I agree as far as the pro bowl is concerned it’s a matter of opinion and hopefully your plays go off. I initially liked Zeke to put on a show as a rookie in his first pro bowl but I agree Garrett could protect him. For some reason I have a gut feeling that Jay Ajayi and Jarvis Landry play good in a close to home pro bowl. Still likely using a core centering around Brady/Edelman/Hogan/Blount

  • w3stcoastoff3ns3

    Seems like you would build your core around the SB and then add in a punt or two from the pro bowl.

  • Messiah717

    @w3stcoastoff3ns3 said...

    Seems like you would build your core around the SB and then add in a punt or two from the pro bowl.

    It’s really designed that the more picks you get right from the Probowl the better off your lineup will be. Everyone is going to have the same SB guys likely. It’s hitting on Probowl guys that’s very difficult but it’s the key.

  • sethayates

    Hey guys, I wrote a quick article on this slate. The most important thing is to use a TE from the Pro Bowl.

    https://rotogrinders.com/articles/how-to-play-the-nfl-bowl-games-on-fanduel-and-draftkings-1695134

  • Messiah717

    @sethayates said...

    Hey guys, I wrote a quick article on this slate. The most important thing is to use a TE from the Pro Bowl.

    https://rotogrinders.com/articles/how-to-play-the-nfl-bowl-games-on-fanduel-and-draftkings-1695134

    Great article Seth. Your opening line certainly made me laugh.

  • BIF

    @JSteele said...

    I’d think that receiving options are a bit of a shot in the dark but those QB prices if you pick the right one could get you 180 yards and 3 TDs like Russell Wilson did last year could give you a lot of options at your other prices.

    That is about max from a PB QB and its 19 points

  • Messiah717

    Given the pricing for PB QBs compared to Brady and Ryan if you get lucky and pick the right one you could be in good shape for the rest of your lineup. It’s a crap shoot but if the idea is having a different lineup these are the things you have to do. Everyone is going to have lineups with the same SB plays.

  • sethayates

    @Messiah717 said...

    Given the pricing for PB QBs compared to Brady and Ryan if you get lucky and pick the right one you could be in good shape for the rest of your lineup. It’s a crap shoot but if the idea is having a different lineup these are the things you have to do. Everyone is going to have lineups with the same SB plays.

    I don’t know if I made this clear enough in my article but pass-catching RBs are the other edge besides TEs. I don’t think you have to try too hard to be different though. My guess is that 20-25% of the field will play a PB QB and eliminate their self. The big name WRs in the PB will also draw heavy ownership. There will be a good 20-30% of people who have a WR with under 5 points.

    The way I’ve got it figured, you have a 25% chance of getting TE right. You’ve got a 50% chance of getting QB right. From there you’ve got seven spots on DK and 8 on FD to be different from everyone else. There won’t be as many duplicate lineups as people think.

    Even if there is, I’ve got no issue splitting $30,000 with however many other people guess the right lineup.

  • JSteele

    Based on what I’m seeing in this thread I’m leaning towards a Walker/Graham stack at TE/Flex

    Walker because the KC guys may want to rest Kelce a bit more and Graham because I have a feeling we see some throwback Brees to Graham combinations

  • tristanwolf

    @sethayates said...

    Hey guys, I wrote a quick article on this slate. The most important thing is to use a TE from the Pro Bowl.

    https://rotogrinders.com/articles/how-to-play-the-nfl-bowl-games-on-fanduel-and-draftkings-1695134

    Great article thanks

  • Messiah717

    Made some lineups. At least it gives me some PB interest if anything else. Although, I really don’t like watching all star contests in any of the sports these days.

  • Pick1979

    @sethayates said...

    I don’t know if I made this clear enough in my article but pass-catching RBs are the other edge besides TEs. I don’t think you have to try too hard to be different though. My guess is that 20-25% of the field will play a PB QB and eliminate their self. The big name WRs in the PB will also draw heavy ownership. There will be a good 20-30% of people who have a WR with under 5 points.

    The way I’ve got it figured, you have a 25% chance of getting TE right. You’ve got a 50% chance of getting QB right. From there you’ve got seven spots on DK and 8 on FD to be different from everyone else. There won’t be as many duplicate lineups as people think.

    Even if there is, I’ve got no issue splitting $30,000 with however many other people guess the right lineup.

    Thank you for the advice to give some direction on this otherwise foggy slate.

    I’m doing M.E’s and on a significant portion i think this slate makes some sense to differentiate by leaving a sizable amount of salary on the shelf.

  • BIF

    Call me crazy but I like a little Kyle Juszczyk

    Great salary relief for 1500, he is a pass catching FB so should get you at least 2x based on a couple touches and the fans loves seeing the big uglies score a TD, if he gets in the end zone it’s a huge upside value play.

    Also with DeMarco and MG3 just back from injuries, Kyle has a chance to see a couple extra touches. Both of those RB’s could check out early leaving only Ajayi and Kyle to see the ball. For this reason I have punted Ajayi as well on a couple.

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