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  • bigez952

    Who’s ready to play DFS 1 quarter at a time? Will be interesting to see how many players are losing early so they chase losses in an afternoon third quarter only slate. This is perfect for the degenerate gambler but I can’t see myself ever playing a 1 quarter slate.

  • WidumBoise

    Have they officially came out with the game format rules?

  • bigez952

    I am not sure just saw thier facebook ad today saying “live in-game drafting is coming for the football season. Play fantasy football for just 1 quarter or half”. So who knows what the actual format will be if it will be like the classic or limited like the showdown but it looks like Flash Mode is going to be super small slates with 1 quarter or 1 half of football only.

  • bigez952

    Here is the link to the ad I saw.

    https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39173209_2094718570548637_6908976888761286656_o.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=b4d9e522346b63ebfe3efc21686f7c2b&oe=5C007E7D

  • KindGuy

    No thanks. I’ll stick to classic games and the occasional showdown.

  • walkoff9

    Iamagine the tilt of a 1 quarter contest when your RB is on the goal line and the quarter expires and they score the first play of the next quarter.

  • stellagirl

    A degen’s delight.

  • WidumBoise

    @walkoff9 said...

    Iamagine the tilt of a 1 quarter contest when your RB is on the goal line and the quarter expires and they score the first play of the next quarter.

  • escot4

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    This one just really seems like a bad idea.

  • KindGuy

    @escot4 said...

    This one just really seems like a bad idea.

    And yet they’ll have $100,000 GPPS that will run with no overlay week after week. DK knows it. We grinders forget how many “casuals” there are in the DFS ecosystem. I say “casuals” because honestly, I think they’re just dumb.

  • KindGuy

    @escot4 said...

    This one just really seems like a bad idea.

    Feel like people said that about showdown yet here we are.

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    @elementasrat said...

    And yet they’ll have $100,000 GPPS that will run with no overlay week after week. DK knows it. We grinders forget how many “casuals” there are in the DFS ecosystem. I say “casuals” because honestly, I think they’re just dumb.

    Yeah, I’m not saying it won’t be profitable for DK… these contests just scream “well, I can’t win in the other contest, so I’ll join this one now… for sure I’ll win this time!”

    Seems like it especially encourages people who have self-control issues.

  • walkoff9

    Doubt it gains much traction other than for the stand alone prime time games.

    Even the showdown format has very small gpp’s outside of stand alone national tv games.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    Bummer, when I saw “flash draft” I thought they were going to offer snake drafts,
    Thought DK could become one stop shopping for all formats and game types…
    But this is just stupid.
    They must think these will be really popular because it seems like a lot of work on their end. Although I doubt they will actually have time to price quarters appropriately with the game situation, so there likely will be an edge, or everybody just having the same lineups because the plays will be so obvious.

  • AVivier

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    This seems dumb, tho I imagine there will be an edge when this first starts by just picking players on the team getting the ball first vs people tilting that their star player didn’t have a big play yet.

  • Stewburtx8

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    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    Bummer, when I saw “flash draft” I thought they were going to offer snake drafts,
    Thought DK could become one stop shopping for all formats and game types…
    But this is just stupid.
    They must think these will be really popular because it seems like a lot of work on their end. Although I doubt they will actually have time to price quarters appropriately with the game situation, so there likely will be an edge, or everybody just having the same lineups because the plays will be so obvious.

    I’m guessing that the partners they now have on the sports betting side of things for in-game betting (on individual plays) will allow them to do this much more efficiently than in the past.

    Personally I am against reducing DFS down to smaller game formats and scenarios (I’ll always like the Classic format best), but obviously people play them, so the sites will offer them.

  • Dunzor

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    I’m guessing that the partners they now have on the sports betting side of things for in-game betting (on individual plays) will allow them to do this much more efficiently than in the past.

    Personally I am against reducing DFS down to smaller game formats and scenarios (I’ll always like the Classic format best), but obviously people play them, so the sites will offer them.

    Ya I’m mostly disappointed because if this is the way they are moving I’m guessing we aren’t going to even get 2 game primetime slates anymore since they will likely all be 1 game showdown or this nonsense now. 2-3 game short slates were my bread and butter last year and by far my most profitable game type so I’m just desperately hoping they still exist with decent gpps but I’m afraid Showdown / Single game on FD are here to ruin my party

  • britdevine

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    Everyone in here is missing the biggest piece of info about the format.

    Each Flash Draft contest has a guaranteed prize amount and a bonus amount. The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be.

  • WidumBoise

    @britdevine said...

    The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be.

  • Charlie26x

    I like WinView, a RG sponsor. Gives DK something more to interact with a live game. Certainly different but as sports betting goes and betting on live game props its a start for those states waiting to be legalized.

  • blenderhd

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    @britdevine said...

    Everyone in here is missing the biggest piece of info about the format.

    Each Flash Draft contest has a guaranteed prize amount and a bonus amount. The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be.

    If this is able to get implemented across all game formats, we don’t have to get frustrated about contests being sized too small and filling hours in advance with smaller duplicates of them created for latecomers.

  • dolphinkick182

    @escot4 said...

    Yeah, I’m not saying it won’t be profitable for DK… these contests just scream “well, I can’t win in the other contest, so I’ll join this one now… for sure I’ll win this time!”

    Seems like it especially encourages people who have self-control issues.

    Who me?


  • DraftKings_CM

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    @britdevine said...

    Everyone in here is missing the biggest piece of info about the format.

    Each Flash Draft contest has a guaranteed prize amount and a bonus amount. The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be.

    Brit is correct.

    Traditionally DraftKings guarantees a prize pool. Our GPP contests payout the entire prize pool, regardless if the contest fills or not. Once the contest fills, it is closed – therefore each GPP has a maximum number of entrants.

    FlashDraft will be different. Each Flash Draft contest has a guaranteed prize amount and a bonus amount. The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be. The total prize pool is determined by adding the bonus amount to the guaranteed prize pool. Pretty cool huh?

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  • YoungFischer

    Is this simply a clever way to both guarantee a contest will run while circumventing the requirement that prize pools be determined in advance?

    For example, DK can guarantee a relatively small prize pool to both eliminate overlay risk and guarantee the contest will run, and then add in the non-guaranteed portion as bonus funds to make sure they rake the maximum amount without risk of overlay.

    Big change that could impact the whole landscape, not just this tiny sliver of in-game fantasy.

  • db730

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    @DraftKings_CM said...

    Brit is correct.

    Traditionally DraftKings guarantees a prize pool. Our GPP contests payout the entire prize pool, regardless if the contest fills or not. Once the contest fills, it is closed – therefore each GPP has a maximum number of entrants.

    FlashDraft will be different. Each Flash Draft contest has a guaranteed prize amount and a bonus amount. The more people that play the contest, the higher the bonus will be. The total prize pool is determined by adding the bonus amount to the guaranteed prize pool. Pretty cool huh?

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    How is it determined how the bonus amount spread out amongst all the paying spots?

  • Dunzor

    @YoungFischer said...

    Is this simply a clever way to both guarantee a contest will run while circumventing the requirement that prize pools be determined in advance?

    For example, DK can guarantee a relatively small prize pool to both eliminate overlay risk and guarantee the contest will run, and then add in the non-guaranteed portion as bonus funds to make sure they rake the maximum amount without risk of overlay.

    Big change that could impact the whole landscape, not just this tiny sliver of in-game fantasy.

    You make it sound like a negative but this is a positive if they are allowed to expand it to regular events too not just flash draft. It means we no longer would have to be annoyed if they create conservative contest sizes in the smaller sports / slates because once those fill up quickly people could keep entering to expand the prize pool. Yes it means DK has to take less risk and would avoid overlay more often, but that is GOOD THING. The less risk pressure DK is under, the more they can expand their offerings and allow contests formats to grow, such as large field single entry GPPs where they could make it like 2000 people but see that more and more enter beyond that to create large level playing fields without the max entry boogeyman.

    This has been a thing in the Poker world for ages and is a good thing, it allows you to offer up large prize pools and then continue to expand when the customers show up to play. The important question left is the one that DB posed as to how those extra bonus prizes get distributed. Ideally it would be in the lower spots upward so as to make the prize payout structures flatter, though I’m a bit worried they would just end up juicing the top few prizes per their usual M.O.

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