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  • JCULL

    I haven’t spent much time on these boards this year so I don’t know how much this has already been talked about but lately I hear people trying to compare DFS and poker.

    I’ll keep it basic…

    Poker: 1 game 1 hand to play.

    DFS: 1 game 250+ “hands” to play.

    Stop. The comparison is ignorant.

  • crazydaisy2013

    I never considered 1 game to be equal to one hand when playing poker. I think one session of poker is more comparable to one DFS tournament with multiple entries. The more hands a person plays lowers variance just like multiple entries in DFS games do.

  • tarheelkid23

    DO NOT MAKE IGNORANT THREADS

    People are comparing the skill sets (analytics, bankroll management, rapid decision-making, etc.) which are present in both poker and DFS (as well as day trading).

  • deactivated70850

    LMAOOOOO Hey, he’s exercising his right to speak freely, like you are; don’t make ignorant comments. See, it works both ways Tarheel.

  • JEFFRAMBO

    @JCULL said...

    I haven’t spent much time on these boards this year so I don’t know how much this has already been talked about but lately I hear people trying to compare DFS and poker.

    I’ll keep it basic…

    Poker: 1 game 1 hand to play.

    DFS: 1 game 250+ “hands” to play.

    Stop. The comparison is ignorant.

    While the meat of your topic could be argued logically from both sides, your “basic” analogy that you used is about as bad an example as possible.

    You must realize that most people who make the poker comparison to DFS were/are online poker players and not brick & mortar poker players. This is a very important distinction to make as the subtleties/nuances between DFS and online poker do overlap at many intersections. Those intersecting aspects aside, to simply say “Poker: 1 game 1 hand to play” is quite inaccurate as online poker was/is all about multi-tabling which is the equivalent to “DFS: 1 game 250+ “hands” to play.”

    B&M poker is a different story however and there is less overlap with DFS beyond understanding odds, probability, variance, bankroll management, game theory etc.

    To say the comparison is ignorant however is more telling of your lack of understanding of what makes you successful at both rather than your stance that the two are on different spectrum’s in the universe.

  • tarheelkid23

    daytrad3r – Haha, true. Although, sometimes ignorant posts deserve ignorant responses.

  • AtGame7

    @tarheelkid23 said...

    daytrad3r – Haha, true. Although, sometimes ignorant posts deserve ignorant responses.

    All I know is there have been a lot of posts on here telling everyone how they should think. I’ve even been sent PM’s telling me I’m not allowed to call DFS gambling.

    I’m seriously among the last to get into an argument over a message board, but it’s getting to the point it’s just silly.

  • Galante118

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    No offense, but you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to poker and how many decisions have to be made, the thought process that goes into it etc…just clueless. This is the problem, people making statements as if they are facts, when they havent the slightest clue as to what they are talking about. Pretty much what the AG is doing in NY.

  • DabsAndFrags

    @JCULL said...

    I haven’t spent much time on these boards this year so I don’t know how much this has already been talked about but lately I hear people trying to compare DFS and poker.

    I’ll keep it basic…

    Poker: 1 game 1 hand to play.

    DFS: 1 game 250+ “hands” to play.

    Stop. The comparison is ignorant.

    If you think poker is 1 hand….you aren’t playing poker.

  • shockermandan

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    I think a better thread would be “Do not compare DFS to poker because online poker is not legal in the US.”

  • osuryanf

    How about educating yourself before making a thread such as this?

    Those of us who grinded online poker didn’t play “1 hand” and we didn’t even play 1 game at a time. I was an MTT player and ran 15-20 tournaments at all times, that’s 15-20 hands every minute or two. Multiply that by 60 minutes, that’s 900-1200 hands per hour, every hour, sometimes upto 10-12 hours a day. Sounds pretty similar to multi-entering hundreds of lineups into a GPP, no?

    Do you understand how many different poker hands there are? That’s similar to how many different lineups you can submit into GPP’s.

    There’s a reason several poker pro’s have transferred over into the DFS world, there’s wayyyyy more similarities than you think.

  • S7ubs

    Not to mention I think they are compared just for the sole fact of skill and luck. Poker obviously takes skill and knowledge, however, you still need to cards to fall your way to win in the long run. DFS you can do all the research and formulas you want and it will give you an edge. But you still need the players to go out there and stay healthy and perform.

  • 10Beers

    is the OP directing this to Jason Robbins (CEO of DK)?

    https://youtu.be/Cx_iZEQ31wM?t=2m19s

  • deactivated70850

    We need discussion like this. Yes, it sucks bringing so much negativity into DFS, but we definitely need to understand it’s appropriate to be in such conversations. It’s not easy for anybody.

  • Warriv

    It’s a lot like poker, even the CEO of Draftkings says so.

  • TeamTwerk

    Live poker is legal in most states even the one’s where gambling is prohibited for the reasons of:
    1. You are not playing against a house, you are playing against other players.
    2: It is undeniably a game of skill

    I don’t see why fantasy sports would be considered any differently from poker by the states. DFS and poker share the above listed characteristics.

  • Gotembaseball

    Poker and DFS are identical in three ways.

    1. Never met a bad Poker or bad DFS Player
    2. Both have equal amounts of players telling you why such and such was a bad play and explaining why in mini tirades.
    3. Every one is a Pro

  • milktruck2

    @shockermandan said...

    I think a better thread would be “Do not compare DFS to poker because online poker is not legal in the US.”

    ding ding ding

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    @JCULL said...

    I haven’t spent much time on these boards this year so I don’t know how much this has already been talked about but lately I hear people trying to compare DFS and poker.

    I’ll keep it basic…

    Poker: 1 game 1 hand to play.

    DFS: 1 game 250+ “hands” to play.

    Stop. The comparison is ignorant.

    I’ve done both, casually and professionally. There definitely are similarities. I’m not sure you realize how many games and hands per minute or day were being run by pros during the online boom…

  • crazydaisy2013

    The concepts OP used aren’t relative to the argument trying to be established. If OP said DFS and poker aren’t relatable based on a per hand and per lineup basis, it would hold merit. That’s the reason why DFS isn’t considered gambling and poker is. For example, a DFS player has all options available that each other player has to construct one lineup whereas a poker player dealt one hand only has a range of options available to play that one particular hand doesn’t have an option to pick the cards they want to play with.

  • S7ubs

    @crazydaisy2013 said...

    The concepts OP used aren’t relative to the argument trying to be established. If OP said DFS and poker aren’t relatable based on a per hand and per lineup basis, it would hold merit. That’s the reason why DFS isn’t considered gambling and poker is. For example, a DFS player has all options available that each other player has to construct one lineup whereas a poker player dealt one hand only has a range of options available to play that one particular hand doesn’t have an option to pick the cards they want to play with.

    Great point, but you still have no control on what the players you selected will do or stay healthy. Poker players can’t control the cards they get or the cards that come out on the board.

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