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  • niko521TampaBay

    Its easy to look at the quick glance info and make a common decision;

    Some guy (YOU probably never heard of) NFL teams gave up on years ago, playing football for a league you’ve never heard of, with only a couple weeks work to start against the Jags D even if they not the same Jags D of recent years, but still? Easy guaranteed Pick6, a few fumbles, many sacks, fumbles, INTs… oh my?!?…

    you may want to dig a little deeper.

    Josh Johnson is a guy that NFL teams finally gave up on after it became obvious he would never be a starting NFL QB. No matter how talented, every QB, even Backups are a QB needy teams dream of diamond in the rough: either 1) team that drafted him is so bad they didn’t know how to develop him or 2)no way this backup QB would ever take the starting job’s for team he is on nowise time to let him go… (Start QB too good) 3)our coaching staff had him when he was at college so we have a connection 4) he ran the exact offense we are not running 5) million other excuses coaches tell themselves why they have a better chance to develop a backup over teams that couldnt.

    Josh Johnson is no slouch, JJ was taken by Jon Gruden’s Bucs the last year of Grudens contract. He was the kind of QB Gruden liked, EXTREMELY ACCURATE, Super High TD to INT ratio, and can run the ball.

    Sadly, none of that translated to starting QB gigs. Early on he started Bucs games before Josh Freeman became ready, then moved over for Freeman when management was ready to give the franchise to NO.5. After his first contract was done, (and before Freeman self destructed his career) Johnson was off to the 49ers. The next thing you know J.J. is doing the Journeyman Dance around the NFL one year at a time.

    Was J.J. good enough to be a starting NFL QB? Probably not unless he was lucky enough to be put in the perfect system.

    Remember, this is early 21st century, before the current explosion of passing offense, J.J. was a 65-70% completion percentage thrower.

    70% accuracy, extremely mobile, not just tossing the ball to dump offs, his Senior Season he threw 43 touchdowns, to 1 interception!!! Add on 726yard rushing. This is NOT a washed up ‘has been’, he still has numbers like this.

    He’s simply at that stage in a QB career where its obvious he will never be a starter in the NFL so why bother, and at 32 the age became a factor a few years ago.

    any rust came out last week…
    JJ is NOT going to make a JAG dst player rich, but he COULD make a GPP JJ holder a little happy. It won’t surprise me at all.
    Tossing Ints, fumbling snaps, Nathan Peterman-esque play….. that would shock me, and I WILL put my money (the little I have) where my mouth is this week.

    Celebrating my 40th season following the NFL

  • bigez952

    You could have just said “Jacksonville is trash” and saved a bunch of time.

  • Pbasniper

    So what you’re saying is a guy who hadn’t thrown a pass in a regular season NFL football game since 2011 has knocked off the rust in one half against a defense that had a 40 point lead and was playing back ups in the DL and LB positions and he is going to travel to JAX who is the 5th ranked DVOA defense and he is going to….excuse me COULD make a GPP holder a little happy? TELL ME MORE.

  • niko521TampaBay

    Pbasniper, 1) do you REALLY think that highly of Jax defense?
    2) Yes, thats what Im saying. once again, #Not rich, so if you want to play a small cash game on principle, I will PLAY J.J as my QB, but you have to play Jax as your D.

    you see, this wasn’t just some crappy QB, he was pretty good. and he is still playing football, just not in the NFL. Its not like he hasn’t thrown a pass or stood under center for years. If it were anyone else, Id agree in a heartbeat. I just can’t see him laying an egg or neg number with his skill set.

  • Pbasniper

    I agree to your terms, send an invite my screen names are in my profile for DK and FD, either one is fine it will be fun.

  • sochoice

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2017 FanDuel WFFC Champion

    The Jags stink, Tampa Bay stinks, Gruden stinks and JJ stinks. That pretty much sums it up right there.

  • Pbasniper

    @niko521TampaBay said...

    Pbasniper, 1) do you REALLY think that highly of Jax defense?
    2) Yes, thats what Im saying. once again, #Not rich, so if you want to play a small cash game on principle, I will PLAY J.J as my QB, but you have to play Jax as your D.

    you see, this wasn’t just some crappy QB, he was pretty good. and he is still playing football, just not in the NFL. Its not like he hasn’t thrown a pass or stood under center for years. If it were anyone else, Id agree in a heartbeat. I just can’t see him laying an egg or neg number with his skill set.

    Where’s my invite!

  • osuryanf

    Hey guys what’s going on with this thread

  • Pbasniper

    @osuryanf said...

    Hey guys what’s going on with this thread

    A small potatoes challenge between a guy with an undying love for Josh Johnson and someone who thinks he’s poopoo.

  • NDNole

  • BIF

    As a Bucs fan, I liked Josh as a backup in Tampa and was hoping he’d be one of those long term clipboard holders who could give you decent minutes when you needed him….but I also like Josh Freeman as our QB1….until I didn’t anymore 🙄

    With respect to this week, I’d like Josh a lot more on a team that was healthy at the skill positions and if they really believed in their playoff chances as opposed to the mid-late season collapse that they are putting the wrapping on. It’s tough to live Jax D after their rolling over last week on prime time vs Tenn err I mean Derrick Henry (especially after a great defensive game vs Indy the week before). Part of me says Jax responds at home and to play their DST; and a little part of me says JJ is great value vs a team that doesn’t care anymore.

  • niko521TampaBay

    no, I got super busy and had to do very small week of DFS. however, your welcome for letting you off the hook. if I had the DFS knowledge some of you have, id be rich. But you have to know the NFL, and you have to k now DFS at a high level. When you’ve been watching this league for 40 years, you’ll be calling $hit like that too. it was a no brainer for me that unfortunately I wasn’t really able to cash in on or play much this week. Hope I helped someone.

  • bigez952

    @niko521TampaBay said...

    no, I got super busy and had to do very small week of DFS. however, your welcome for letting you off the hook. if I had the DFS knowledge some of you have, id be rich. But you have to know the NFL, and you have to k now DFS at a high level. When you’ve been watching this league for 40 years, you’ll be calling $hit like that too. it was a no brainer for me that unfortunately I wasn’t really able to cash in on or play much this week. Hope I helped someone.

    I am confused by what your asking to be thanked for as Jacksonville scored 10 points last week which is solid score and wouldn’t have killed anyone’s lineups. Josh Jackson only scored 14 points so no one was getting rich with that play especially when you consider all of the high priced guys who flopped so saving money at QB to get up to some of those duds didn’t make anyone’s weekend.

  • mambaland

    was that an audition for a newpaper gig…yea none of us know the nfl like you…i remember when scott mitchell was king of fantasy or don majikowski was relevant but i will avoid dropping knowledge in paragraph form

  • Pbasniper

    @niko521TampaBay said...

    no, I got super busy and had to do very small week of DFS. however, your welcome for letting you off the hook. if I had the DFS knowledge some of you have, id be rich. But you have to know the NFL, and you have to k now DFS at a high level. When you’ve been watching this league for 40 years, you’ll be calling $hit like that too. it was a no brainer for me that unfortunately I wasn’t really able to cash in on or play much this week. Hope I helped someone.

    You missed my free money because I would have put up a wet fart against you with my full slate lineup last week…..I got saved by the 2 game afternoon slate.

  • niko521TampaBay

    lol its getting crazy. ill make one up for this week, actually doing it right now, Sun main .

  • niko521TampaBay

    MAMBA. As for Newspaper Gig….I like to write, what can I say. had blog for years, bucstop.com but don’t have the time to do that and business.

    Im a no body, so no one cares if my knowledge is war and peace style, or Twitter-esque. But in an age when publications have to shrink articles down to 300 words so they can keep people’s attention, its no wonder we lack so much in information.

    Yeah, I could have written it smaller, guess Ill work on that. … but on plus side I think everyone got the message.

    Scott Mitchell, poster boy for NFL teams giving career contracts based on 2nd String QB in one or two game appearances and running with it all the way to bank.

    Majkowski man!! The Answer few Packer fans know when you ask them, who was starting QB BEFORE Brett Favre!!
    You’ve got some great NFL knowledge there.. don’t hold that in! Todays NFL fan under 25 will need to know more about the NFL Pre-Goodell… what it was like when as a player you screwed up and you got fined, not taken out for 6 games. Defending the shield is one thing, but whats the shield worth when your star players are not playing? Sure players are roll models for kids, but you go crazy with rules to protect QBs and stars so they can play all 16 games, but who wants to watch Thanksgiving Day football with Dallas Cowboys WITHOUT BEST RB??

    People like you with a foothold in history need to get your knowledge out, or at least be accessible to learn from! People can just stop reading if they get bored.

    Or maybe im just old! #shortNsweetIN20TEENS

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    @niko521TampaBay said...

    Majkowski man!! The Answer few Packer fans know when you ask them, who was starting QB BEFORE Brett Favre!!

    I live in Wisconsin. Everyone in this state – and I mean everyone – knows that Majkowski preceded Brett Favre. In fact, many fans remember the specific game against the Bengals when the Majik man was hurt and Favre came on in relief and led the Pack back for an improbable victory.

  • Alergic2Winning

    @stv1313 said...

    Everyone in this state – and I mean everyone – knows that Majkowski preceded Brett Favre.

    Dumb Packers fans… Brett Favre replaced Gus Frerotte.
    Jeeze

  • mambaland

    and the religious porn star preist holmes was a beast fwiw

  • NIN1002

    That is a passionate view on Josh Johnson. Are you a member of his immediate family and/or president of his fan club?

  • timusbr

    @niko521TampaBay said...

    Pbasniper, 1) do you REALLY think that highly of Jax defense?
    2) Yes, thats what Im saying. once again, #Not rich, so if you want to play a small cash game on principle, I will PLAY J.J as my QB, but you have to play Jax as your D.

    you see, this wasn’t just some crappy QB, he was pretty good. and he is still playing football, just not in the NFL. Its not like he hasn’t thrown a pass or stood under center for years. If it were anyone else, Id agree in a heartbeat. I just can’t see him laying an egg or neg number with his skill set.

    I dont know about your story or conclusions…..but I do love the playfulness of putting your money where your mouth is. When people draw conclusions similar to yours, backing it up with small bets makes this fantasy thing GREAT. good luck

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