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  • thedkexperience

    I was surprised to see that there was not a best ball thread for discussion. Assuming the mods have no issue with one being created, I may as well kick things off.

    The biggest takeaway I have from my earliest DK BB drafts is that Jameis Winston is wildly under valued this year. In BB in particular I don’t see any legit argument for going QB early. There are a lot of reasonably safe bets for 4000 yards going at QB3 prices between Winston, Goff, and Roethlisberger. There are also plenty of guys with high week to week upside like Daniel Jones and Fitzmagic available late.

    Are you guys really leaning into QB late as a strategy this year too?

  • thedkexperience

    @Smallchimp said...

    In a large best ball tournament, I’m not playing for floor. WR variance doesn’t go overstated; it’s the most likely position to blow up in a random game. TEs can end up with a 2 TD game or a QB randomly blows up and you get lucky, but spending to avoid zeroes is just lower expected value once you’re playing in a larger field. Especially the caliber of player you’re getting as a third QB or TE. I get that you’re downplaying the likelihood a WR or RB selected later has a startable week, but I’ll take my chances. Some team limping into the playoffs with Doyle or Darnold starting is probably already dead in the water.

    You’re telling me that Danny Jones can’t just up and have a 30 point game? He’s had like 5 of them the last 2 years. Every QB has massive upside every week which is why people wait on them in general. Tyrod can rush for 100 yards. There isn’t an NFL starter who can’t have a big game at QB for fantasy for a week or two so the “caliber of player” argument is just wrong. They are low caliber players because they are unpredictably wild score wise, not because Goff can’t up and throw for 400 yards in any game.

    But, once again, why is it always a season ending injury? You could have a great team but miss the playoffs entirely because you got 3 zeros at QB in October. You’re not winning anything if you miss the playoffs.

    As for WRs … who are these late round gems? Most of the good ones have skyrocketed up 100+ picks. 2 months ago Antonio Brown was an afterthought. That’s great value. You’re not getting last round AB this week, that’s for sure. Hell, you can’t even get last round Quez Watkins this week.

    I’m all ears if you wanna tell me who these last few high upside WRs are but as we get closer to the season I simply don’t see any value in the WRs now going in the final few rounds.

  • thedkexperience

    @Smallchimp said...

    That’s exactly it. Draft for ceiling— if you’re just trying to avoid dudding out, you’re probably overinsuring. Why play a tournament if your biggest concern is trying to stay afloat

    It’s not my biggest concern but it is a concern. Injuries happen every week. Covid is a thing that knocks people out of games totally out of nowhere. Do I want the highest scoring lineup I can muster come playoff time? Hell yeah. Do I want to score 200 in a playoff game I don’t make cause I got a zero in November, hell no.

    You guys are using hope as a strategy. Hope is not a strategy. Bad stuff will happen. Getting through it is part of the game.

  • thedkexperience

    Here are the WRs who went in the final 3 rounds of my last BB draft. Tell me who the high upside league winners are. This looks like a list of guys who will get 4 targets on a good week.

    Tre’Quan Smith – 1 game above 20 last year, starter for now
    D. Robinson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    St. Brown – Rookie, 4th on depth chart
    Watkins – 0 but I do like him, starter?
    Collins – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Jefferson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    Slayton – 2, 2nd on depth chart, I like him
    Green – 0 but he’s AJ Green
    Watkins – 1, 2nd on depth chart?
    Eskridge – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Zaccheaus – 0 but I think he’s a starter now
    Reynolds – 0 and 3rd maybe
    Brown – Rookie and 3rd
    Palmer – Rookie and 3rd
    Hilton – 2 and a steal
    Brown – 0 and unemployed
    Patrick – 2 and 3rd
    Pascal – 1 and starting I believe
    Coutee – 1 and on a practice squad

    That’s 10 twenty point games last year from 19 guys. This means that best case you’re looking at 2 games tops where one of these guys gets into your flex. There was only one 30 point game from the whole bunch.

    Grabbing tons of useless WRs for volatility is a waste. You can get 5 guys in the middle rounds who will keep any of these guys off your BB starting lineup all season.

    So yeah, take an emergency QB and TE. You’re not getting some big upside play by adding a late round WR, you’re just creating a potential 3 week nightmare at a starting slot.

  • hautalak

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    I think we are talking as if every Best Ball is fluid and it’s not… I’ve been in about 5 drafts (at various moments in time) now and each one has been way different. Some I’m overweight on WRs, some I’m overweight on RBs, and even some at QB (4). Now I don’t think that’s right but like dkexperieince said you’re guessing at a point. I remember last year taking a chance on John Ross and I’m not sure he even played a game (was supposed to be a top 3 on CIN at least). Near the end there is just too much guessing. I don’t think taking a 3rd QB is paying for “floor”.

    FWIW I think each of my teams has a 3rd QB and not necessarily because I wanted one but the likelihood of him having a “ceiling game” over some WR fighting for snaps is a no brainer to me. As for TE I don’t think you need 3 but it doesn’t hurt.

    I’ve found the worst thing so far has been bye weeks! All the guys available on the 2nd go around for the bench, all have the same week (7 & 14) it seems and that’s lead to some “odd” picks by me. You need enough “chances” each week to field a team with somebody having a floor week. I really like a couple of my teams and kind of dislike a few others.

    I don’t think there is one winning strategy. I will say I have never understood the “zero RB” drafting theory though.

  • Mccurds13

    @thedkexperience said...

    It’s not my biggest concern but it is a concern. Injuries happen every week. Covid is a thing that knocks people out of games totally out of nowhere. Do I want the highest scoring lineup I can muster come playoff time? Hell yeah. Do I want to score 200 in a playoff game I don’t make cause I got a zero in November, hell no.

    You guys are using hope as a strategy. Hope is not a strategy. Bad stuff will happen. Getting through it is part of the game.

    I mean, yeah we kind of are. But I’m not drafting the same 2 QB and TE on every team. It’s pretty likely one of my teams will stay healthy at those positions all year (odds are way more than one), and I now automatically have more bullets at the positions of highest variance (and injury rates) week to week.
    Plus, I’m a big supporter of taking one of the top TEs and QB because I’m only taking 2, so if they do stay healthy my third guy is almost completely pointless. My 10th receiver playing in the flex 3 times is probably more than what my 3TE or QB will do for me.

  • Mccurds13

    @thedkexperience said...

    Here are the WRs who went in the final 3 rounds of my last BB draft. Tell me who the high upside league winners are. This looks like a list of guys who will get 4 targets on a good week.

    Tre’Quan Smith – 1 game above 20 last year, starter for now
    D. Robinson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    St. Brown – Rookie, 4th on depth chart
    Watkins – 0 but I do like him, starter?
    Collins – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Jefferson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    Slayton – 2, 2nd on depth chart, I like him
    Green – 0 but he’s AJ Green
    Watkins – 1, 2nd on depth chart?
    Eskridge – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Zaccheaus – 0 but I think he’s a starter now
    Reynolds – 0 and 3rd maybe
    Brown – Rookie and 3rd
    Palmer – Rookie and 3rd
    Hilton – 2 and a steal
    Brown – 0 and unemployed
    Patrick – 2 and 3rd
    Pascal – 1 and starting I believe
    Coutee – 1 and on a practice squad

    That’s 10 twenty point games last year from 19 guys. This means that best case you’re looking at 2 games tops where one of these guys gets into your flex. There was only one 30 point game from the whole bunch.

    Grabbing tons of useless WRs for volatility is a waste. You can get 5 guys in the middle rounds who will keep any of these guys off your BB starting lineup all season.

    So yeah, take an emergency QB and TE. You’re not getting some big upside play by adding a late round WR, you’re just creating a potential 3 week nightmare at a starting slot.

    You’re shifting the goalposts. You’re arguing that Jones can pop off for 30 points and taking him because your starter may get hurt(which can definitely all happen), but not seeing value in young 3rd WR on good offenses? What happens if Metcalf or Allen get hurt? Don’t Eskridge and Palmer gain instant value? And I’d guess a WR injury is more likely than a QB one. You could’ve had Higgins, Shenanult, and Anderson off the top of my head well in to double digit rounds last year. Even Justin Jefferson was going quite late in drafts a lot last year. All those guys may have been your 9th or 10th receiver drafted but gave you way more than a 3rd QB would have unless your 3rd QB was Herbert.

  • thedkexperience

    @Mccurds13 said...

    You’re shifting the goalposts. You’re arguing that Jones can pop off for 30 points and taking him because your starter may get hurt(which can definitely all happen), but not seeing value in young 3rd WR on good offenses? What happens if Metcalf or Allen get hurt? Don’t Eskridge and Palmer gain instant value? And I’d guess a WR injury is more likely than a QB one. You could’ve had Higgins, Shenanult, and Anderson off the top of my head well in to double digit rounds last year. Even Justin Jefferson was going quite late in drafts a lot last year. All those guys may have been your 9th or 10th receiver drafted but gave you way more than a 3rd QB would have unless your 3rd QB was Herbert.

    Not intentionally moving posts. I’ll address each point.

    - Jones can pop off for 30 and I’m taking him because he, like nearly every other QB, can as well. The fact that he is also there for injury insurance is part of it.

    - There is some value but if you take 9 WRs maybe 1 of the late ones pops off for a Justin Jefferson or Odell or McLaurin value. It is possible but it’s highly unlikely and it’s way more likely that you’ll be getting the next JJ Arcega-Whiteside than the next Mike Evans. Take one or two, sure, but you’re much more likely to get nothing from your WR7-9 then hitting the Odell jackpot.

    - WRs are not simply plug and play like point guards in the NBA. If one of those number one WRs goes down the person most likely to benefit is that teams RB in the form of a different game plan.

    - QBs get injured more than WRs from my experience. Neither is immune to it though.

    - There will be examples of late round WRs popping every year same as QBs, RBs and TEs. None is any more likely to pop a sleeper than the other except that there are 5 or 6 WRs on every NFL team and only 3 QBs tops.

    - Herbert is just another example that you can much more easily find a good QB late than a good WR. Any of the rookie QBs who are guaranteed snaps are great 3rd QB darts. They will be on the field which is half the battle. WR4s aren’t guaranteed to even play.

  • Mccurds13

    @thedkexperience said...

    Not intentionally moving posts. I’ll address each point.

    - Jones can pop off for 30 and I’m taking him because he, like nearly every other QB, can as well. The fact that he is also there for injury insurance is part of it.

    - There is some value but if you take 9 WRs maybe 1 of the late ones pops off for a Justin Jefferson or Odell or McLaurin value. It is possible but it’s highly unlikely and it’s way more likely that you’ll be getting the next JJ Arcega-Whiteside than the next Mike Evans. Take one or two, sure, but you’re much more likely to get nothing from your WR7-9 then hitting the Odell jackpot.

    - WRs are not simply plug and play like point guards in the NBA. If one of those number one WRs goes down the person most likely to benefit is that teams RB in the form of a different game plan.

    - QBs get injured more than WRs from my experience. Neither is immune to it though.

    - There will be examples of late round WRs popping every year same as QBs, RBs and TEs. None is any more likely to pop a sleeper than the other except that there are 5 or 6 WRs on every NFL team and only 3 QBs tops.

    - Herbert is just another example that you can much more easily find a good QB late than a good WR. Any of the rookie QBs who are guaranteed snaps are great 3rd QB darts. They will be on the field which is half the battle. WR4s aren’t guaranteed to even play.

    Fair enough. I don’t necessarily have a huge problem with any of the points, and I’m sure you’ve had success with your strategy in best ball in the past also.

  • tvegas40

    The team that won the million last year had 2 QBs and 2TEs. It also had Tevin Coleman – Tre’Quan Smith and Auden Tate so it had some RB/WRs 8 or 9s. If you are playing just in 12 man leagues it really depends on your strategy and how the draft is going. Tournaments I think when it comes to the end you’re going to want to be stacked in the skilled positions. I had a few teams take a zero at QB or TE last year (Josh Allen and Big Ben only QB) for example and they still made it decently far.

  • squidkill

    @thedkexperience said...

    This is all I think about. How could you not? It’s the NFL. People get hurt all the time and you’ll need to get through some tough spots unless your whole strategy is hope.

    There is no world I draft Jack freakin Doyle as a third TE on a Best Ball team.

    Banana land

  • thedkexperience

    @squidkill said...

    There is no world I draft Jack freakin Doyle as a third TE on a Best Ball team.

    Banana land

    What about Eric Ebron or Hayden Hurst? Ertz was going undrafted just a month ago. Blake Jarwin? Plenty of guys who can score 6 TDs have been available at or near the last round all summer. Most have been drafted up in that time.

  • arobinson11

    is there a way to check your exposure on draftkings?

  • BlueEdwards

    Question on the scoring/advancing:

    Do you just have to beat the other 11 teams in your draft for the cumulative 1-14 weeks to advance?

  • timusbr

    HELP, can you download the DK draft rankings?

    I would like to match up my 799 line csv on week 1 salaries to the draft order. It would speed me along to starting a draft.

  • thedkexperience

    @BlueEdwards said...

    Question on the scoring/advancing:

    Do you just have to beat the other 11 teams in your draft for the cumulative 1-14 weeks to advance?

    Top 2 advance I believe

  • BlueEdwards

    @thedkexperience said...

    Top 2 advance I believe

    You advance then what…..you have to beat how many to advance to the next round?

  • BlueEdwards

    Entered a few of these. Always ended up with 10,11 or 12th pick. Bunch of diggs/ Josh Allen stacks. Barkley too. Seems no one wants saquon

  • bigez952

    @BlueEdwards said...

    You advance then what…..you have to beat how many to advance to the next round?

    In a league of 12 week’s 1-14 the top 2 scores advance to the playoffs. Week 15 is another 12 man league where only the top 1 for the week advance to week 16 which is another 12 man league. Again, only the winner of the week advances to the finals week 17 where the big money is.

  • bigez952

    @thedkexperience said...

    What about Eric Ebron or Hayden Hurst? Ertz was going undrafted just a month ago. Blake Jarwin? Plenty of guys who can score 6 TDs have been available at or near the last round all summer. Most have been drafted up in that time.

    The best part about best ball is there is no right answer, and every draft/ roster construction is unique making the optimal strategy fluid. I personally would take a Van Jefferson or Nico Collins over any of the late round TE’s. For RB’s I liked going Tony Jones Jr, Sony Michel (before he was traded and available rounds 18-20) or Marlin Mack. However I do have a couple shares of all 3 of those TE’s on 3 TE teams where all my usual WR/ RB targets were gone and I have two late round suspect TE’s so adding a 3rd helps make that not such a glaring weakness on the roster.

  • thedkexperience

    @bigez952 said...

    The best part about best ball is there is no right answer, and every draft/ roster construction is unique making the optimal strategy fluid. I personally would take a Van Jefferson or Nico Collins over any of the late round TE’s. For RB’s I liked going Tony Jones Jr, Sony Michel (before he was traded and available rounds 18-20) or Marlin Mack. However I do have a couple shares of all 3 of those TE’s on 3 TE teams where all my usual WR/ RB targets were gone and I have two late round suspect TE’s so adding a 3rd helps make that not such a glaring weakness on the roster.

    Exactly.

    I look at it like this, you should either be in a spot where you expect someone to start every week because they are awesome, or be in a platoon. If you do opt for a platoon and you don’t need to pick which player starts due to it being best ball, then make it a PLATOON.

    Jimmy Graham scored 8 TDs last year and isn’t even being drafted in BB. You could theoretically skip TE for 17 straight rounds and end up with Ebron, Jarwin and Graham and get 15 TDs out of the TE slot. You won’t get shit for yardage or catches but the TDs are there to be had.

  • bigez952

    @thedkexperience said...

    Exactly.

    I look at it like this, you should either be in a spot where you expect someone to start every week because they are awesome, or be in a platoon. If you do opt for a platoon and you don’t need to pick which player starts due to it being best ball, then make it a PLATOON.

    Jimmy Graham scored 8 TDs last year and isn’t even being drafted in BB. You could theoretically skip TE for 17 straight rounds and end up with Ebron, Jarwin and Graham and get 15 TDs out of the TE slot. You won’t get shit for yardage or catches but the TDs are there to be had.

    This has been my strategy. If I take Kelce, Waller or as far down as the Andrews / Higbee range I am expecting them to be an every week starter and only taking 2 TE’s on that team to fill in weaknesses in other areas late. If I wait on TE I am definitely taking 3. Same logic goes for QB for me in that if I get any QB in the first 7-8 rounds I am only taking 2 but if I wait I will go for 3.

    For RB’s I rarely take handcuffs on the top guys as well. For the first 5-8 rounds I am betting on those guys being healthy and carrying the work load and then trying to fill in the gaps from there on that roster. I like to manage injury risk of the top guys through multiple rosters and managing exposure. There are going to be a few guys in rounds 1-3 that have monster years and put up starting scores pretty much every week so on the rosters that I hit those I want as many spare late round bullets filling in the weakest positions.

  • timusbr

    I am definitely behind the times on this season long picking.
    I spent the last 4-5 days putting the player pool into sortable lists, identifying who I might take.

    I tried 1 $6 draft and was surprised that people were taking a lot of backups 2nd and even 3rd string guys in rounds as early as 7 and 8. While I feel I am at a disadvantage to you guys who have been actively making BB LU’s. It seems that you guys are a minority. Thank God for NFL, where everyone thinks they know enough, play their favorite teams and players, and rush to get their picks into a contest.

    Not to say this will be easy. I think the $6 and $20 contests are going to be tougher than any other contest we play all year. but it can be fun. going to play a few more $6’s and 1 $20.

    Questions??????. I get the week 1 Best Ball (entire season)
    what about week 2 thru …..?

    what are anyones thoughts of the sit and go’s…worthwhile to have your money sit all season?

  • thedkexperience

    @timusbr said...

    I am definitely behind the times on this season long picking.
    I spent the last 4-5 days putting the player pool into sortable lists, identifying who I might take.

    I tried 1 $6 draft and was surprised that people were taking a lot of backups 2nd and even 3rd string guys in rounds as early as 7 and 8. While I feel I am at a disadvantage to you guys who have been actively making BB LU’s. It seems that you guys are a minority. Thank God for NFL, where everyone thinks they know enough, play their favorite teams and players, and rush to get their picks into a contest.

    Not to say this will be easy. I think the $6 and $20 contests are going to be tougher than any other contest we play all year. but it can be fun. going to play a few more $6’s and 1 $20.

    Questions??????. I get the week 1 Best Ball (entire season)
    what about week 2 thru …..?

    what are anyones thoughts of the sit and go’s…worthwhile to have your money sit all season?

    Anyone drafting BB in the summer months is in the top 1% of 1% of people who give a shit about it. Doesn’t always translate to $$$ but just by being on forums like this you’re so far ahead of even an average football fan it’s wild. I had a guy draft Josh Jacobs at 4 overall over the weekend. You just never know.

    As for the sit and go vs tournament I don’t want to hold up my money that long unless I’m buying cryptocurrency lol.

    Edit – this will be controversial and not directed at any of you but the stupidest group of sports fans BY FAR in the United States are football fans, both NFL and college. We have a big problem in this country where a significant majority of people cannot or will not think critically about their chosen football team or any other teams. You get stuff like “well Dak sucks cause fuck the Cowboys” and people pass it off like wisdom. It’s unfortunately seeped into much of the rest of our society too.

    If you’re wondering the second most stupid group of American fans is a tie between NBA and MLB fans during the playoffs when all the football fans take a 2 week break from smelling their own farts so they can shit on players they’ve watched for 20 minutes.

    Edit 2 – Another problem with football fan stupidity is that easily 90% of fans have no idea what they are actually watching. Go ask a random fan if they know what a trap block is or the difference between a cover 2 and a cover 4. Most people have no idea and simply expect their team to “want it more”. All sports have this issue to some extent but football is an odd bird because you can win with anything from the most complex gameplan imaginable to one devised for a Pop Warner team if you execute a good plan. I really wish pregame shows spent some time actually teaching football instead of bullshit interviews that pull at narrative heart strings.

  • 2Slik

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    @thedkexperience said...

    Here are the WRs who went in the final 3 rounds of my last BB draft. Tell me who the high upside league winners are. This looks like a list of guys who will get 4 targets on a good week.

    Tre’Quan Smith – 1 game above 20 last year, starter for now
    D. Robinson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    St. Brown – Rookie, 4th on depth chart
    Watkins – 0 but I do like him, starter?
    Collins – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Jefferson – 0, 4th on depth chart
    Slayton – 2, 2nd on depth chart, I like him
    Green – 0 but he’s AJ Green
    Watkins – 1, 2nd on depth chart?
    Eskridge – Rookie, 3rd on depth chart
    Zaccheaus – 0 but I think he’s a starter now
    Reynolds – 0 and 3rd maybe
    Brown – Rookie and 3rd
    Palmer – Rookie and 3rd
    Hilton – 2 and a steal
    Brown – 0 and unemployed
    Patrick – 2 and 3rd
    Pascal – 1 and starting I believe
    Coutee – 1 and on a practice squad

    That’s 10 twenty point games last year from 19 guys. This means that best case you’re looking at 2 games tops where one of these guys gets into your flex. There was only one 30 point game from the whole bunch.

    Grabbing tons of useless WRs for volatility is a waste. You can get 5 guys in the middle rounds who will keep any of these guys off your BB starting lineup all season.

    So yeah, take an emergency QB and TE. You’re not getting some big upside play by adding a late round WR, you’re just creating a potential 3 week nightmare at a starting slot.

    I agree 100% with your strategy as it is my approach as well.

    There are starting TE’s that never get drafted which make much more sense as a TE3 than drafting a WR9. Akins, Arnold, Jarwin, etc.

    There are QB’s also like the aforementioned Daniel Jones is one of my favorites to pickup at the end.

    I actually think it’s more important to get a QB3 than a TE3. Random QB’s will give you at least a couple shootout games. The other issue is if you happen to get a couple games overlapped of missing your QBs you’re dead in the water. A WR9 is never going to carry that kind of load.

    Good WR list too which I think is fair. A few of these will hit but most will go the entire season never making the cut. FYI Justin Jefferson was a late mid pick but certainly not available in the last few rounds unless you drafted really early.

  • kbarnhill7523

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    @2Slik said...

    agree 100% with your strategy as it is my approach as well.

    There are starting TE’s that never get drafted which make much more sense as a TE3 than drafting a WR9. Fells, Arnold, Jarwin, etc.

    I think this completely misses the point of why folks are loading up on WRs vs other positions like QB and TE.

    I’ll try to lay out my thinking simply. When I am building a Best Ball team I am looking for a BEST CASE scenario. I’m doing very little to hedge that team. When I am drafting a QB/TE/WRs I am looking to stack an offense as much as possible to leverage that team’s spike weeks.

    RB is EXTREMELY thin this year. Instead of chasing the lack of RB depth I am looking to draft one surefire “Hero” back, someone that I am expecting to have their score count every week. Then I am looking to draft 3-5 other backs either for value (fell too far) or for their secure pass-catching role. I want no more than 5-6 RBs on my roster. I only need to keep 2 RB scores.

    On the WR targets I am looking to pair 1-2 of my first WR targets with their QB. So, if I take Diggs I am looking to ALWAYS take Josh Allen later. If I then take Higgins or Aiyuk, later I am looking to get Burrow or Nance/Jimmy G to pair.

    Then when you are drafting WR/TE depth later you are targeting offenses. You always want correlation built in. I have a lot of lineups where I have paired two WRs and a TE with my QB. In some cases I want 4 pass catchers from the same team because I believe in the offense, not necessarily the individual players.

    I will take no more than 2 TEs and I am generally looking to get Kelce/Waller/Kittle OR Logan Thomas. After that I am relying on QB/TE stacks to dictate my TE choice.

    You can’t worry about injuries in Best Ball. If you top 3 picks get injured their handcuffs won’t save you. The lineup is probably toast at that point. So I don’t bother trying to raise the floor, so to speak, on each individual lineup. I am only concerned about maximizing the ceiling.

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