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  • gosixersgo76

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    I think it would be a good idea if Draft Kings rewarded solid consistent play by making a “Front 9 All Par Or Better” and “Back 9 All Par Or Better”. Maybe 1.5 points for each one that occurs. And also make bogies worth -0.5 per stroke lost, so a double would be -1, a triple would be -1.5, a quad -2, etc. Also think it’s silly that 11-15th all get the same finishing bonus. I mean after say 20th they can be bracketed but 11th should get a higher finishing bonus than 12th, 12th should get more than 13th, etc.
    1st: 40 PTs
    2nd: 30 PTs
    3rd: 25 PTs
    4th: 20 PTs
    5th: 18 PTs
    6th: 16 PTs
    7th: 15 PTs
    8th: 14 PTs
    9th: 13 PTs
    10th: 12 PTs
    11th: 11 PTs
    12th: 10 PTs
    13th: 9.5 PTs
    14th: 9 PTs
    15th: 8.5 PTs
    16th: 8 PTs
    17th: 7.5 PTs
    18th: 7 PTs
    19th: 6.5 PTs
    20th: 6 PTs
    21st–25th: 5 PTs
    26th–30th: 4 PTs
    31st–40th: 3 PTs
    41st-50th: 2 PTs

  • poppaspicks

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    The only thing I agree with is that the hole in one is a bit too high. Other than that, I think DK does a good job representing how well a player “played”. Just because someone finishes in 35th, compared to 29th, that doesn’t mean they didn’t play just as well or even better. One bad hole, while it can doom a golfer’s chance at a high finish or a win, shouldn’t determine a large majority of their fantasy production. Its like saying INTs or fumbles should be weighted the same as TDs. I mean, they happen less frequently, and often times have just as big if not bigger impact on how a player performed but yet I don’t see people clamoring for a INT to equal -6pts. Finau and other similar players who can rack up birds but also have a few DBWs, are similar to the home run hitters in baseball and the scoring should continue to reflect that. Oh and Ben Martin, yeah, check out his Eagle percentage, that wasn’t luck.

    Scratch that….I do agree with the regressive scoring from 1st-20th but only because it’s its a small difference in each position.

  • poppaspicks

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    @dakimbell said...

    Picking the high scoring guy who puts up a ton of birdies and bogies but finishes T30th seems like no skill at all, whereas picking guys that will finish high on the leaderboard and are steady takes skill.

    Well, some guys you pick because they put up a ton of birdies. Others, you pick because they’re more “steady”. Isn’t that the same in any sport? Having more of an emphasis in the finishing positions adds nothing but more luck into the equation. There’s enough variance already in golf IMO.

  • poppaspicks

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    @gibbathy said...

    Making birdies so much higher than bogeys does not make it more exciting. It makes it more complex and frustrating.

    Since this is an Olympic year I’ll use this analogy. One of the most exciting events in the Olympics is the 100m dash. It is so simplistic by nature yet it is so exciting. To score this event DK would probably give bonus points to the runner who got out of the blocks quicker, use lane differential to even things out and end it with optimal angle bonus a runner bends over to cross the line.

    /rant

    Disagree. Its much easier to project birdies and bogeys than it is to project finishing position. In regards to the second part, that analogy makes zero sense. That would make sense if they awarded points based off of finishing position after each round but other than that, I don’t see how that analogy is relevant.

  • gibbathy

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    @poppaspicks said...

    Disagree. Its much easier to project birdies and bogeys than it is to project finishing position. In regards to the second part, that analogy makes zero sense. That would make sense if they awarded points based off of finishing position after each round but other than that, I don’t see how that analogy is relevant.

    First of all my 100m thing was a tongue and cheek rant, read into it as much as you please.

    So what you are saying is its easier to predict which players will birdie more and bogey less than predict the finishing position. To me they are related.

    I understand your point about one bad hole, but why not give bogeys and birdies similar weights? Why lean it one way? The counter to that argument is why should the player that didnt have that one meltdown hole deserve less?

    You can bang on about about TD’s and INT’s from football. I do not disagree one bit. But there is one indisputable fact about birdies and bogeys. One is the exact negative for the others positive. Why not score it that way?

    I say scale the position points down or eliminate them altogether and make strokes the key driving force behind scoring. A 10th place finish is a solid tournament, there should be no reason two 26th place players should be beating a 10th place player.

  • poppaspicks

    • 2015 FanDuel MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    @gibbathy said...

    First of all my 100m thing was a tongue and cheek rant, read into it as much as you please.

    So what you are saying is its easier to predict which players will birdie more and bogey less than predict the finishing position. To me they are related.

    I understand your point about one bad hole, but why not give bogeys and birdies similar weights? Why lean it one way? The counter to that argument is why should the player that didnt have that one meltdown hole deserve less?

    You can bang on about about TD’s and INT’s from football. I do not disagree one bit. But there is one indisputable fact about birdies and bogeys. One is the exact negative for the others positive. Why not score it that way?

    I say scale the position points down or eliminate them altogether and make strokes the key driving force behind scoring. A 10th place finish is a solid tournament, there should be no reason two 26th place players should be beating a 10th place player.

    Yes, birdies and bogeys happen often where as the finishing position “score” happens only once. In my opinion, it’s easier to predict events that occur more frequently but I do agree, they’re obviously correlating.

    By weighting each stroke equally, then essentially what you’re doing is duplicating the finishing position and thus imparting more randomness, in my opinion at least. Part of the game is being able to predict what’s going to happen in each real life contest and then the other part, is being able to decipher how each outcome can net you the most fantasy points. If they changed it to your suggestion, it would become a completely different game, which would be fine, but it might bring the whole legal issue by having an outcome of a contest be the overwhelming determination in which a fantasy contest is decided.

    Scaling down the points slightly by either weighting bogeys+/eagles+ more/less would be fine by me, I just don’t think any major changes are needed.

  • hokie2009

    the ace is truly like … listen every single week I sit here and HOPE that an ace doesn’t “ruin” this week’s competitions .. if Adam Scott at his ridiculous ownership% last week got that ace to drop, it would have flipped everything on it’s head.

    “exciting” DK says … obviously all depends on which side of the luck you are on

    but I think even tour pros will tell you that getting an ace is EXTREMELY luck-related. it’s cool and there should be a big reward but it shouldn’t be worth more than the rest of your freaking round put together? That’s just stupid.

    Has the potential to “spoil” a contest at any moment if a high owned guy gets an ace.

    I can still feel the burn .. fowler at the quicken I think?

  • JimKronlund

    I still wish for more simplicity. A person just gained many positions by getting 3 birdies in a row. So why put him farther ahead of someone that had 2 birdies, a bogey, and another birdie. It is the same analogy I read earlier that I agree with. If a quarterback threw 3 touchdown in a row. How is giving him a bonus of an extra touchdown helping a fair competition. He just got 3 touchdowns and is ahead by the exact amount his talent and skill allowed him. Hole in one, exact same analogy but compounded and amplified by its rarity. The points in golf are already in place to reward these feats. To me overloading so many extra points bursts past redundancy and unlevels an existing level playing field.
    IMO

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