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  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    On behalf of DraftKings, we are proud to announce our newly created Community team. Our group was formed to listen, engage, and advocate for the player community at large while championing our industry leading commitment to a world class game experience. We are here to represent your feedback inside the walls of DraftKings, because your ideas can help us deliver an increasingly better experience for all players. You can read our introductory post here: https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-cm-is-now-on-rotogrinders-2496208

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  • SkateFiend

    DK should consider allowing players to swap out players who are officially inactive prior to lock. Snake drafts fill like 2 hours after the slate concludes. Some people might not be able to draft teams during work hours.

  • Boooooourns

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    Please look into fixing the snowflake/fire icon displays in NHL showdowns. They are set too high and it makes it difficult for players to display the fire icon. It doesn’t change much but looking at my lineup when its all snowflakes is mentally deflating. Pretty sure you guys at DK don’t want that kind of mindset in your users.

  • railroad82

    If someone from DK could please get ahold of me about a new type of draft format I have come up with I would greatly appreciate it. This WILL be well received I promise.

  • humanash

    Probably a long shot, but letting you guys know that I would love to play the Mazatlán Caribbean Series. Lots of MLB players on the rosters, looks like some good competition! More info – http://www.seriedelcaribe.net/articulos/rumbo-mazatlan-2021-dominicana-conocera-esta-noche-su-representante-para-serie-del-caribe/

  • kantiger77

    I concur with those who say that if a player is excluded due to injury and/or covid, we should be able to replace them in a snake draft. This has happened at least five times so far to me, and I can tell by looking at other players’ teams that it is happening a lot to others, too. Basically, allow a ‘first come first serve’ approach to it.

  • joephoto

    Easy. We all have a quick, fair 30 seconds to make our snake draft picks.
    If you think you need more time, or might need to change your picks later- just play lineups/ games you can change until lock time. Our choice.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    DK should consider allowing players to swap out players who are officially inactive prior to lock.

    I concur with those who say that if a player is excluded due to injury and/or covid, we should be able to replace them in a snake draft. (sic) allow a ‘first come first serve’ approach to it.

    We all have a quick, fair 30 seconds to make our snake draft picks.
    If you think you need more time, or might need to change your picks later- just play lineups/ games you can change until lock time. Our choice.

    As joephoto has alluded to, most of our players enjoy snake drafts because they can focus on the exciting experience of a live draft and then turn their attention to the next contest once the draft has been completed. We appreciate all product feedback and suggestions as we continually work to fine-tune our contest formats. With that said, we do not anticipate adding “late swap” to snake drafts at this time. We will remain open minded as always.

    Please look into fixing the snowflake/fire icon displays in NHL showdowns. They are set too high and it makes it difficult for players to display the fire icon. It doesn’t change much but looking at my lineup when its all snowflakes is mentally deflating. Pretty sure you guys at DK don’t want that kind of mindset in your users.

    The “fire” and “snowflake” icons are calculated by specific equations for each sport, and sometimes can even vary between contest styles within the same sport. We expect to be making an update to our NHL Showdown equation in the near future – stay tuned!

    If someone from DK could please get ahold of me about a new type of draft format I have come up with I would greatly appreciate it. This WILL be well received I promise.

    We monitor all feature and product suggestions emailed to our Customer Support team at support@draftkings.com!

    Probably a long shot, but letting you guys know that I would love to play the Mazatlán Caribbean Series. Lots of MLB players on the rosters, looks like some good competition! More info – http://www.seriedelcaribe.net/articulos/rumbo-mazatlan-2021-dominicana-conocera-esta-noche-su-representante-para-serie-del-caribe/

    Might be a long shot, can’t hurt to swing for the fences right? We’ve forwarded your request directly to our contest operations team and even though we’ll most likely be riding the pine this time, specific requests like this can help us to gauge interest and plan for the future.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • SkateFiend

    Late swap for snake drafts (at least for NBA) is something DK should consider in the age of covid. The NBA is less than fully transparent about their personnel decision and it has an adverse effect on DFS snake draft contests.

    Drafters allows players to swap immediately after snake drafts. Not only that, they swap out inactive on your behalf if you don’t change you lineups. I’ve saved many would be dead lineups and even cashed some of them, and I have experienced no issues. FD will at least let you swap out players scratched due to injuries prior to lock, if I’m not mistaken.

    This is about doing the right thing for consumers and protecting the integrity of the contests. If winning SD contests comes down to avoiding players from games postponed 2 hours before lock, then it effectively becomes gambling. Postponement is not an in game risks like ejections or injuries. Some players might not be able to draft as close to lock as they want due to number of reasons.

    We pay money to play these contests, and seeing a red zero next to an inactive player and knowing that the lineup just went dead is a frustrating experience. I recall the rationale for no late swap was “our players prefer to spend time with families post lock instead of fixing their lineups”. But all major sites have late swap now. I’m assuming legal counsel or someone in the higher up felt that not giving consumers the option to fix entries (when replacements are plainly available) was not a tenable position long term. The regulators would inevitably side with those who wanted protect their paid investments.

    If I had to swap out an Durant (injury or postponement) with OG anuonby, that lineup is probably dead still or a maybe a long shot for second place. But maybe he could get hot and score 45 points. That kind of waiver wire action adds intrigue to SD contests. And it’s not theoretical, at least one site allows this.

  • TheShaman43

    @SkateFiend said...

    This is about doing the right thing for consumers and protecting the integrity of the contests.

    This will be my last word on this, but in the age of Covid I think this sums it up the best.

    I don’t think those advocating for this change (true of me at least) are asking for a traditional “late swap”. In fact, I don’t want that at all. What I would want is protection that allows every participant to put forth a legal lineup before the slate locks.

    In the age of Covid, games are postponed with no warning, or even with a reasonable suspicion that the postponement may happen. If a participant drafts an injured player or has second thoughts then they absolutely should not be allowed to swap (I’d even extend this to baseball rainouts, weather reports are public knowledge and the risk is known). However, in a case where a player/game is assumed active at the time of draft but if known inactive before lock is different.

    There’s no reason a participant who drafted Dame Lillard at 2 o’clock this afternoon should be looking at a dead lineup at lock. They receive no advantage by being allowed a replacement, as all available players are by definition unwanted by the other contest participants – otherwise they’d have been drafted.

    It’s no fun to know you’ve lost five minutes before a slate even begins, but it’s honestly no fun to win that way either. I believe – and others may disagree – that these contests do, in fact, lack integrity in a Covid affected season when games can be dropped without warning and contests won/lost arbitrarily and without the skill of the participants.

    This is my last word, the horse has been beaten to death here, but I’ll monitor any changes to the situation and be poised to jump in if there are any…If not, I’ll be continuing to sit these out.

  • joephoto

    So- Is DK considering fair Re-Drafts take place after snake drafts ? I hope not. Kinda defeats the concept.
    How do you organize participants in the many contests coming back at a certain time ?
    One hour before lock ?
    30 minutes before lock ?
    After Starting lineups are posted ?
    Still take turns with a fair 30 seconds to pick ?
    I like snake drafts because sometimes I’m busy near suppertime, and don’t like the pressure with family around.

  • TheShaman43

    I wouldn’t suggest anything like a redraft.

    The way it has worked on other platforms that I have played is in the event that a player is declared inactive prior to lock, but after a draft has taken place is that the pool of undrafted players is simply opened up to those with an affected roster for a ONE TIME switch.

    In a case where you drafted Lillard and the game is postponed, you would be free to come back and make that switch at any time before lock. Only Lillard would be eligible for the switch, players may only be switched in very well defined and specific scenarios (and in non-Covid years these came up literally a handful of times per season). If a participant fails to make the switch then the inactive player remains on their roster. Opponents can’t say “hey, I wanted that guy!” because they already have a full roster and if they truly did want that played they already had six opportunities to draft him. Essentially affected rosters get a seventh round pick in order to create a legal lineup. This is still disadvantageous as you may be replacing a first round pick with a seventh, but at least it’s not a zero.

    No need for scheduling, once a player is declared OFFICIALLY out (or game officially cancelled) then the free agent pool is open for a one-time only switch.

    I admit, Covid does throw a bit of a wrinkle in here. In previous play I had never experienced an instance where multiple lineups in a single contest were affected and with Covid it seems likely that there will be slates with multiple affected lineups… so you could argue whether or not first come first served is fair or whether draft order should be maintained for replacements.

    I’m with you on liking the format in part because of the timing. On the old draft.com I used to participate in one or two hockey drafts per day when I arrived at the office around 5:30 am each morning, knowing that I might not leave work before lock. I could deal with a quick “player X fell down the stairs before warm ups and has been ruled out” but completing a full draft or putting together a full DFS lineup with the latest news shortly before lock was a nonstarter for me on many work days (thankfully I no longer have that job, lol).

  • joephoto

    @TheShaman43 said...

    No need for scheduling, once a player is declared OFFICIALLY out (or game officially cancelled) then the free agent pool is open for a one-time only switch.

    So- You propose we watch for announcements all day.
    Or must DK notify us first with a way to do these 2nd picks fairly ?
    Can we wait to see starting lineups ? Which previously unwanted bench players (Kuzma) are now starters (A. Davis out) in prime spots ?
    Who gets him ? Who chooses first ?
    What if there are more players declared out after DK has conducted this ? Notify us again and do it again ?
    Can’t wait to see the plan to do this fairly.

  • TheShaman43

    A little of both?

    I mean, I already get push notifications from DK that say “tonight’s Memphis- Portland game has been postponed. Players from this match-up will accrue no points.” or something similar.

    At that point I should know who’s in my lineups and whether or not I need to change.

  • SkateFiend

    @joephoto said...

    So- Is DK considering fair Re-Drafts take place after snake drafts ? I hope not. Kinda defeats the concept.
    How do you organize participants in the many contests coming back at a certain time ?
    One hour before lock ?
    30 minutes before lock ?
    After Starting lineups are posted ?
    Still take turns with a fair 30 seconds to pick ?
    I like snake drafts because sometimes I’m busy near suppertime, and don’t like the pressure with family around.

    DK doesn’t have to do any fair redrafts. They can allow players to swap inactive players after the draft. Waiver wire action has always been a major r of snake draft leagues.

    Shaman already laid out very reasonable swap out solutions so I won’t belabor the point. What I want to emphasize is that DFS sites should err on the side of caution and protect consumer interests in the covid era. In the NHL or even MLB a 0 from one position player won’t necessarily kill that lineup. In the NBA, it’s all but dead. Postponement has derailed too many of my snake drafts and I can’t always draft as close to lock as I want to. That’s my money going down the drain, whereas sites like drafters allow me total freedom to fix lineups after draft.

    Swapping out inactive players in a snake draft shouldn’t take more than a minute, unless you played dozens of them. If Curry was ruled out today (3 game slate), your replacement option is likely Bledsoe or Payton, depending on the site. And let’s be real, families spend a gazillion hours staring on their smartphones. It won’t be unusual for the dad to play around with his DFS lineup after dinner or whatever.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Late swap for snake drafts (at least for NBA) is something DK should consider in the age of covid.

    I don’t think those advocating for this change (true of me at least) are asking for a traditional “late swap”. In fact, I don’t want that at all. What I would want is protection that allows every participant to put forth a legal lineup before the slate locks.

    So- Is DK considering fair Re-Drafts take place after snake drafts ? I hope not. Kinda defeats the concept.

    Although we do not anticipate making any rule changes for our Snake Drafts right now, we appreciate the passion and enthusiasm shown for our Snake Draft product!

    All viewpoints from this conversation have been heard and tracked throughout the DraftKings organization. When it comes to refining our DFS platform, we will never rest.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • bure10

    For the MMA achievements 10$ and 5$ per event means across entries over the late and main slate?

  • SkateFiend

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    Late swap for snake drafts (at least for NBA) is something DK should consider in the age of covid.

    I don’t think those advocating for this change (true of me at least) are asking for a traditional “late swap”. In fact, I don’t want that at all. What I would want is protection that allows every participant to put forth a legal lineup before the slate locks.

    So- Is DK considering fair Re-Drafts take place after snake drafts ? I hope not. Kinda defeats the concept.

    Although we do not anticipate making any rule changes for our Snake Drafts right now, we appreciate the passion and enthusiasm shown for our Snake Draft product!

    All viewpoints from this conversation have been heard and tracked throughout the DraftKings organization. When it comes to refining our DFS platform, we will never rest.

    - DraftKings Community Team

    If you won’t allow snake draft late swaps, then may I suggest other possible remedies –

    1. Expand roster to include “bench” players who can be used to replace a future inactive player. Someone who drafts AD in the first round may choose Kyle Kuzma as a bench player in a small slate, because AD is eternally questionable.

    2. Expand rosters and implement “drop the lowest score” rule used by FD a few years ago.

    3. Run snake draft double ups, where lineups with a zero might still have a shot at cashing.

  • Salo91

    Also for the PGA NBA 50$ promo does the 50$ include full classic slate golf. The golf would start on the 28th but finish the 31st, or is it the showdowns that start and end on the 28 and 29?

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    For the MMA achievements 10$ and 5$ per event means across entries over the late and main slate?

    That is correct, entry fees from both slates will count towards the Fantasy MMA Ironman and Pay Per View Ironman achievements!

    If you won’t allow snake draft late swaps, then may I suggest other possible remedies –
    1. Expand roster to include “bench” players who can be used to replace a future inactive player. Someone who drafts AD in the first round may choose Kyle Kuzma as a bench player in a small slate, because AD is eternally questionable.
    2. Expand rosters and implement “drop the lowest score” rule used by FD a few years ago.
    3. Run snake draft double ups, where lineups with a zero might still have a shot at cashing.

    You can always share suggestions with us about any topic! Every bit of feedback we receive is directly shared with relevant DK team members.

    Thank you once again for sharing your insight.

    Also for the PGA NBA 50$ promo does the 50$ include full classic slate golf. The golf would start on the 28th but finish the 31st, or is it the showdowns that start and end on the 28 and 29?

    All NBA & PGA contests that start on or before 1/29 will count towards this promo, including full slate Classic Golf contests!

    https://www.draftkings.com/2021-shoot-swing-challenge

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • TheShaman43

    I wonder if your team has given any thought to a “Global Swap” feature similar to those that exist on competing platforms?

    For those that MME it can be tough to make adjustments on lineups one by one when there’s late breaking news on a player to which we have significant exposure. Happened twice tonight with Grzcelzyk scratched after warm-ups and Hintz less than 15 minutes before puck drop.

    I suppose I could have missed something that already exists, but if it doesn’t then put me down as a supporter for the addition of a “Global Swap” or “Quick Player Replace” feature that would allow for mass substitution rather than one lineup at a time.

  • bigez952

    @TheShaman43 said...

    I wonder if your team has given any thought to a “Global Swap” feature similar to those that exist on competing platforms?

    For those that MME it can be tough to make adjustments on lineups one by one when there’s late breaking news on a player to which we have significant exposure. Happened twice tonight with Grzcelzyk scratched after warm-ups and Hintz less than 15 minutes before puck drop.

    I suppose I could have missed something that already exists, but if it doesn’t then put me down as a supporter for the addition of a “Global Swap” or “Quick Player Replace” feature that would allow for mass substitution rather than one lineup at a time.

    If you’re into MME it is crazy to think your using the site to change lineups and not doing everything in excel and using the edit entries .csv option where you can change thousands of lineups in the matter of seconds. Even I use that, and I only play 6 or so lineups at at a time most slates.

  • BigRay

    Very disappointed in the PGA snake draft achievements. The top tier of the achievement is 130 Snake drafts for 100 Crowns. You get 10 Crowns for the first one and .77 Crowns for the last one. Even for the Daily Golfer gets you 400 Crowns for 125 entries. C’mon man, DK is better than that.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    I wonder if your team has given any thought to a “Global Swap” feature

    If you’re into MME it is crazy to think your using the site to change lineups and not doing everything in excel and using the edit entries .csv option where you can change thousands of lineups in the matter of seconds. Even I use that, and I only play 6 or so lineups at at a time most slates.

    Global Player Swap is available in the DraftKings iOS app, or via the Lineups page on the full website. In the iOS app, you can find Global Player Swap under the ‘Create and Play’ section of the Home page. On the website, you can access the feature by clicking ‘Swap Players’ towards the top-right corner of the Lineups page https://www.draftkings.com/lineup. Global Player Swap is on the way for Android this year, too!

    The ‘Edit Entries’ .csv tool also makes it possible to edit all of your lineups in a matter of seconds! You can find the ‘Edit Entries’ tool here https://www.draftkings.com/entry/upload

    Very disappointed in the PGA snake draft achievements. The top tier of the achievement is 130 Snake drafts for 100 Crowns. You get 10 Crowns for the first one and .77 Crowns for the last one. Even for the Daily Golfer gets you 400 Crowns for 125 entries. C’mon man, DK is better than that.

    As a brand new contest format, we thought it best to make the Snake Drafter achievement relatively easy to attain compared to most other achievements so that everyone has an opportunity to try new contests while earning rewards.

    It is also important to note that achievements are just one of the many ways we reward our players. We balance rewards through a vibrant range of offerings, inclusive of Daily Rewards, Promotions, Bonuses, and Achievements. Nobody else offers such a wide array of solutions to give back to players, DK is the market leader here!

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • TheShaman43

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    Global Player Swap is on the way for Android this year, too!

    This is what I was looking for, thank you!

    .csv tools are great when you’re in front of a computer and while that’s exactly where I am for the bulk of the day it just so happens to be exactly where I am NOT as we approach 7:00-8:00 locks.

    Looking forward to implementation on the Android app.

  • wolfjb1

    With all due respect, your people are just not thinking properly if you refuse to allow swapping inactive guys on snake drafts.

    On the old app DRAFT, I drafted MLB and NBA all day long and when a guy was scratched, we just swapped him out. I drafted NFL all week long and same thing. I played a lot less volume before they added the late swap feature

    I’m just one regular guy and not a volume player, but I love the snake format but I’m not playing any snake drafts without knowing that I can’t swap my inactive guy.

    It’s especially so in NBA, but it’s the same in any sport: as someone who plays DFS every day but isn’t a pro I’m just throwing your money away if you can’t swap out guys. You’re also eating your own ecosystem because the sharps are gonna take advantage of the casuals and the casuals who draft players later deemed inactive aren’t gonna stay long.

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