INDUSTRY FORUM

Comments

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    On behalf of DraftKings, we are proud to announce our newly created Community team. Our group was formed to listen, engage, and advocate for the player community at large while championing our industry leading commitment to a world class game experience. We are here to represent your feedback inside the walls of DraftKings, because your ideas can help us deliver an increasingly better experience for all players. You can read our introductory post here: https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-cm-is-now-on-rotogrinders-2496208

    Now it’s your chance – what would you like to know? Do you have a suggestion you would like to share? We will do our best to answer all honest and respectful questions you post in this thread, in turn we hope to help players like you have a better understanding of how the world’s largest fantasy sports ecosystem works. Please allow us some time before responding to your questions and comments, you deserve well thought out answers – and that takes time.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • TeamTwerk

    I’m with others happy to see a huge field $6 GPP offered but I’m also disappointed to see that it’s a 53k man winner take all. It might be the worst payout structure I’ve ever seen on DK.

  • nflfreak28

    I know I’m just echoing a lot of this, but since this is the first time I’ve had the time to post on this forum here are some thoughts…

    Yes to flatter payout structures, I know it wouldn’t be optimal for all contests (the millionaire maker for example), but I just don’t see why the standard isn’t 10% of the prize pool to 1st, 10% of that amount to 10th and a 2X min cash at the bottom. I also understand that many players like to shoot for the stars…why not offer both types of contests for each slate? I tend to see very little (if any) overlay these days so I think they would fill, if not then make adjustments as necessary.

    Lower rake. I know this probably won’t happen, but maybe at least disclosing the rake for each contest in the lobby would be nice.

    Contests I’d like to see more of: single entry and 3 max at all price points, guaranteed 50/50’s and 100-player

    Lower the max entries at all price points for sports with limited player pools (such as MMA, single game contests for all sports, etc.)

    Allow late swap for NBA if a player’s status changes.

    Bring back Sunday night football for the NFL main slate.

    Thank you for your time and consideration. I really appreciate that DK is reaching out to the player community for feedback.

  • leib0039

    Kind of random thought, but I think on these full 15 game MLB slates a pickem with pitchers only would be kind of fun. They do not have pitchers at all now but today there are 30 pitchers, have 6 tiers of 5 or maybe a few more/less in some depending on who is going on a specific day. Would only work on these slates with 14-15 games but I think it would be an interesting idea a few times a year, a nice change of pace.

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Much better job on the $1 today with payouts and size. Keep growing it.

    Just slightly top heavy as anyone finishing 9th or 10th and gets $30 bucks is not enough

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-community-what-would-you-like-to-know-2498166?page=16#reply-2540636

    Much better job on the $1 today with payouts and size. Keep growing it. Just slightly top heavy as anyone finishing 9th or 10th and gets $30 bucks is not enough

    Did you take a look at Thursday’s MLB $40K Mini-MAX [150 Max Entry] posted last night? We think this is the type of contest you have been asking for Brit – https://www.draftkings.com/draft/contest/56619262

    PS: Here is the post announcing today’s mini_MAX from last night :

    We heard you wanted a mini-MAX that had a huge prize pool, a flat payout structure yet 1st place still wins a huge multiple of the entry fee, and a 2x min-cash that allows you to enter anywhere from 1 to 150 lineups in the same contest. We got your back!

    Our featured Mini-MAX MLB contest for Thursday May 24th : MLB $40K Mini-MAX [150 Max Entry] !!!!!
    1st place pays 3,000x the price of the entry fee, yet is just 7.5% of the prize pool. Let’s swing for the fences – show us some love!

    PS: The MLB schedule tomorrow requires us to lock the main set at 6:10PM, which is an hour earlier than usual. Don’t be late, make sure you set your lineups before you get shut out!

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Todays is nice, but steadying this as a 20-25k so the top 400 players aren’t allowed would be great along with a good structure

    I do have 150 in today as this is better than earlier offerings

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    @britdevine said...

    Todays is nice, but steadying this as a 20-25k so the top 400 players aren’t allowed would be great along with a good structure

    I do have 150 in today as this is better than earlier offerings

    Our new Players First Initiative policy assures that the highest-volume players are ineligible to enter contests if the entry fee is less than $3.

    https://www.draftkings.com/lp/player-first

    PS: As always, our offerings will vary based on expected demand as determined by our data driven analysis. Today we are swinging for the fences, if this works well you might see this offering more frequently.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • britdevine

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    So it’s anything under $3 no matter the prizepool?

    If so then today’s gpp is perfect

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    The upcoming week of featured MLB main sets are scheduled as follows:

    Please Note: DraftKings reserves the right to revise, change, alter, or cancel the schedule described above at any time – but we do intend to follow these plans.
    Lets us know your thoughts RotoGrinders – does this advance notice of our lower-stakes headliner gpp schedule help you to better plan your week?

    - Steven & Christie, DraftKings Community Team

  • MHDU2424

    Why is your pricing in MLB not relative to the slate? Today’s early slate you can literally afford anyone you want…basically feels like a Pick em contest

    Everything should be priced to make it tough to build a lineup no matter the slate

  • KindGuy

    Ok, so the $5 Knuckeball is obviously gone and never coming back.

  • KindGuy

    Also, did you guys stop running the daily freerolls?

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Why is your pricing in MLB not relative to the slate? Today’s early slate you can literally afford anyone you want…basically feels like a Pick em contest
    Everything should be priced to make it tough to build a lineup no matter the slate

    Generally speaking, we try to keep salaries the same across the entire MLB day as we feel this results in the most balanced strategic experience for the majority of our players. There are scenarios where we deviate from this strategy.

    On a related note, If a player is scratched from the schedule after pricing is set, there can sometimes be a ripple effect.

    Ok, so the $5 Knuckeball is obviously gone and never coming back. Also, did you guys stop running the daily freerolls?

    Nothing we offer is permanent, and anything we remove may someday come back – this is an intentional part of our game evolution. Our MLB contest entry fees for next week are sized to allow each option to grow without conflict with one another. This week we are juggling a mix of 1/4/8 and 2/4/8, but that could change in the future.

    We offer freerolls daily across all sports, but not necessarily the same sport each day. In the lobby click the sport you wish to review, then set the Entry Fee filter upper and lower limits to Free. You will find many options available, for example today we are offering the MLB $500 FREE Contest which pays out the top 265 players.

    DraftKings Community Team

  • tamparoor

    I’ll say it again mma main contest needs to be single entry. We already had 1 fight cancelled and another 2 in jeopardy this is the new regular for mma. Allow a 150 contest just not the main one or at least add a big single entry

    150 entry on a 8 or 9 fight card is beyond ridiculous

  • KindGuy

    You guys are terrible at your jobs. Who the hell is in charge of contest sizing? They need their head examined.

  • Dunzor

    Hi DK reps….I posted about this last week but didn’t see any response. Can you explain the reasoning behind including position points in the Round 4 Showdown Golf contests? By including points for raw position it SEVERELY limits the reasonable plays and creates huge ownership concentration since it basically takes the bottom half of the leaderboard out of consideration. The scoring system works well for Rd1 – 3 but there is really no reason that Rd 4 needs to be any different, especially since you put the biggest prize pools for that round. Alternatively if you really believe that position points make the contest better, you should change it to the Nascar model of a CHANGE in position points for the round, rather than the raw final placement. If you could please provide some explanation of the idea behind using these position points because I think almost everyone playing Rd4 showdown doesn’t like the fact that there are typically 3-4 players nearly everyone ends up with due to the scoring system and it essentially becomes about the last couple picks instead of the whole team

  • shadowchap1978

    @Dunzor said...

    Hi DK reps….I posted about this last week but didn’t see any response. Can you explain the reasoning behind including position points in the Round 4 Showdown Golf contests? By including points for raw position it SEVERELY limits the reasonable plays and creates huge ownership concentration since it basically takes the bottom half of the leaderboard out of consideration. The scoring system works well for Rd1 – 3 but there is really no reason that Rd 4 needs to be any different, especially since you put the biggest prize pools for that round. Alternatively if you really believe that position points make the contest better, you should change it to the Nascar model of a CHANGE in position points for the round, rather than the raw final placement. If you could please provide some explanation of the idea behind using these position points because I think almost everyone playing Rd4 showdown doesn’t like the fact that there are typically 3-4 players nearly everyone ends up with due to the scoring system and it essentially becomes about the last couple picks instead of the whole team

    I second this notion as an avid pga DFS fan I hate the 4th round showdown the way it’s set up now.

  • Charlie26x

    I play a little on fanduel also mostly on Draftkings, I like there .25 cent everyone wins contests. For a smaller player, multi entering is fun and at least I’d win something, but won’t break the bank. Maybe I’ll hit on a day or break even. I’d like to see something like this on DK. Fun way to still keep engaged as a DFS player and a sports fan than taking a losing night and not playing each and every night.

  • bigez952

    With the end of ghe month approaching can we get the Gold and Diamond freerolls on a different slate than the Platinum and Black? For a single entry guy like me it would be nice to have my two freerolls I qualify for on different slates instead of having to go all in with 1 lineup on both at the same time.

  • dbullsfan

    • Ranked #88

      RG Tiered Ranking

    loved the .25 mini max for Nascar this week, would really like to see it bumped up to $1 or even $2 for next week. I know you guys have tinkered with the entry limits for baseball and I hope the same is for Nascar. It filled really early and the winning lineup was only split 3 ways and provided a very nice sweat for many who don’t normally get that feeling.

  • DoubleTime

    • 2016 King of Summer: August

    Just looking at the $4 Showdown NBA contest for tomorrow:

    Total prizepool is $50k, with a 1st place prize of $4k. At first look that seems like a reasonable portion of the prizepool going to 1st place (I like that only 8% is going to 1st).

    But when you scroll down, 10th place only gets $150? That is way too big of a difference between 1st and 10th, and it gets worse outside of that. I can understand a big drop-off like that in contests with a huge amount going to 1st, but not in a contest with only 8% going to 1st.

    This whole problem stems from paying too much of the field. It is cool you guys are trying to pay 2x min cashes, but when you pay 26.7% of the field, as well as 2x min cash, it compounds the problems at the top-ish part of the structure. You should only pay 20% of the field, and then paying 2x would not be an issue. Way too much of the prizepool is being sucked down to pay those bottom finishers. To be exact, 16% of the $50,000 prizepool is going to pay those extra 6.7% of winners at the bottom. That is a huge amount of the prizepool, and it results in a horrible structure overall.

    You take 16% rake, then pay 16% to those additional winners, not enough money left over for a good structure. You cannot have a good structure when paying such an extreme amount of the field. You can finish in the top 0.2% of the field and only win 10x your buy-in. That is garbage, and everytime it happens to somebody it is disheartening and makes them want to quit playing.

    You guys are trying to make this way harder than it is. You had good structures 2.5 years ago. Go back to that. Cut it back to paying 20%. Your attempts at churning rake are ruining the game. I was just putting a bunch of lineups in, now I’m taking them out and playing elsewhere.

  • caleibold

    How many times does the MLB $1 minimax need to fill hours and hours before lock before it gets sized correctly?

  • dbullsfan

    • Ranked #88

      RG Tiered Ranking

    @caleibold said...

    How many times does the MLB $1 minimax need to fill hours and hours before lock before it gets sized correctly?

    yes this, I hate to just pile on but you gotta be aware of the slates you are pushing stuff on. Today is a holiday with a ton of people not at work with a nationally televised day slate with ESPN having games all day. It’s great for the big boys that the main event is a $50 buy in but you could have at least balanced that out with a much bigger 150 max as it would have easily filled much bigger.

  • hendog

    • 924

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2017 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    The structures in this week’s golf slate are terrible. All three $500K GPPs pay out 20% to first despite varying in size from 1K to 119K entries. The structure can work for the Pressure Putt since it’s smaller, but 20% to first and 0.3% to tenth on a contest with 119K entries is egregious.

    If the structure was better I would consider putting 100+ lineups in the Drive the Green but as it is I might not even put 5 entries.

    The smaller buy ins go too far in the other direction with only 5% to first. Basically nothing is enticing.

    I’ll say it again: Make the giant contests (in terms of number of entries) 5-10% to first, only go up to 20% on the smaller ones. You’ve got it backwards and it’s frustrating.

    Also, I love that the “mini-max” thing but they shouldn’t be so small. I typically play up to 1 entry per 1K in the contest, so I’m not going to be maxing out a 24K-entry contest. Maybe some people will but it seems to defeat the purpose for me.

  • Zieg30

    • 758

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @hendog said...

    The structures in this week’s golf slate are terrible. All three $500K GPPs pay out 20% to first despite varying in size from 1K to 119K entries. The structure can work for the Pressure Putt since it’s smaller, but 20% to first and 0.3% to tenth on a contest with 119K entries is egregious.

    It’s just horrible. It’s the tiny payout to 10th relative to 1st that’s really inexcusable. If DK wants to put a higher percentage top prize up top, they need to pay out less of the field so that the rest of the top .5% get decent payouts. It’s aggravating to get 10th place out of tens of thousands of entries and get a piddly return because someone else did marginally better and gets an exponential one.

  • X Unread Thread
  • X Thread with New Replies*
  • *Jumps to your first unread reply

Subforum Index

RotoGrinders.com is the home of the daily fantasy sports community. Our content, rankings, member blogs, promotions and forum discussion all cater to the players that like to create a new fantasy team every day of the week.

If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL). Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (NJ/WV/PA/MI), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-888-532-3500 (VA) or call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN).