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  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

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  • mogizzle

    @enderasin said...

    Hey!

    I just wanted to follow up to say I saw the bigger $3 contest. That’s honestly exactly what I had in mind for an ideal contest from my perspective, and I went back and saw that you mentioned it in this post too.

    As far as I’m concerned, this $3 contest and $20 contest are a pretty great start to the EPL season. The striker just looked really pathetic compared to what the golazo ended up being. I guess you guys were just still not settled on what the exact size would be for the golazo?

    Anyways, now that they are all out, I wanted to follow up to say that I really like how they worked out. Obviously, more ambition will always be really exciting for us soccer players that do it week-in and week-out, but this is definitely a great start as far as I’m concerned.

    Thanks for engaging with me, and hopefully the contests fill well and we can kick on with growing soccer season :). Get ready for me to enter as many as I can afford ;).

    Too bad the bigger $3 contest has such an awful payout structure

  • KindGuy

    Hi DK, I appreciate you guys finally making the quarter arcade bigger than $5,000 for tomorrow but I don’t understand why such a small % of the pool goes to first compared to other similarly sized GPPS at higher price points. Will we ever see a quarter jukebox GPP with 10-20% going to first instead of 2.5-7.5%?

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Exciting times in the DraftKings office. The DraftKings Community Team has so much to do this week.

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  • biffrenylds

    @bigez952 said...

    I have not seen any reduction in my missions. I still get 350 or 400 crowns daily for a $20+ contest making it easy to hit Platinum each month by playing the $25 double up.

    I’ve retired from the $25 double-up due to the 70-80 identical lineups. Haven’t found the same problem in the $25 Skipper. Yet.

  • bigez952

    @biffrenylds said...

    I’ve retired from the $25 double-up due to the 70-80 identical lineups. Haven’t found the same problem in the $25 Skipper. Yet.

    That hasn’t been a problem for me since I have a winning record against that daily 50-100 person lineup train. When you beat that lineup it makes cashing very easy. I do agree that it can be annoying on the days when you just miss cashing and lose by a point to that train. Same users everyday always have the same lineup so I am assuming they are buying the lineup or subscribing to a site that posts optimal cash lineups. It is annoying that so many do that type of stuff but the sites don’t seen to care about that or do anything about it so you just have to beat the trains to be successful at double ups.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    We cannot put the cart before the horse, and that is exactly what you are asking us to do – first players must show their interest, then we can increase guarantees.

    DraftKings: Players must show interest, then we will increase guarantees.

    Reality: Main $5k contest filled SEVEN hours early last week. This week: DraftKings puts out the SAME $5k contest

    DraftKings: But but but “Full Preseason slate,” “CFL is only 3 games this week,” “New Jersey sportsbook,” “Our models predict less players play on days ending in Y”

    Me: Just sitting here waiting for the next excuse why you put no effort into growing smaller sports even when the players are showing support/interest.

    Rinse and repeat

  • jdubadubs

    @DefinitelyMiami said...

    It’s also weak you can’t unregister from a contest on the app before salaries are released

    If you go to upcoming contests in the app and then click one of your blank lineups, you get the popup to “reserve entry or cancel” – if you click “reserve entry” it doesn’t actually register again but gets the popup to go away and then you can withdraw from the top right like normal. Also hate how I can’t see the payout structure from the app when salaries aren’t released without reserving an entry first – when you click “cancel” on the reserve entry option it should leave you in the tourney lobby in the app and not go back to previous page

  • EC4THREE10

    My question is with sports betting coming to most states within the next year. Will DFS be able to offer contest with no entery cap.

    Kinda like poker how it’s a guarantee but the tournament could be worth more depending on the number of enteries.

    Thanks

  • gaelicgirl

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    DraftKings: But but but “Full Preseason slate,” “CFL is only 3 games this week,” “New Jersey sportsbook,” “Our models predict less players play on days ending in Y”

    Me: Just sitting here waiting for the next excuse why you put no effort into growing smaller sports even when the players are showing support/interest.

    In the FanDuel Removing Kicker For Flex Spot thread, you commented that “There is obviously always going to be people that do not like a change that a site makes no matter what it is. They will be the vocal ones in a thread like this…But I think this is one change were I think a very strong majority of people would prefer a Flex player over a Kicker.”
    I’m going to hazard a guess here that DraftKings is making the same calculation regarding CFL, EPL, and other so-called “niche sports” that FanDuel made when it decided to change Kicker to Flex. Namely, that a very strong majority of players prefer to play American football over Canadian football or English Premier League soccer. So despite what FanDuel calls a “vocal minority of players” really liking the Kicker spot, they are going to cater to their survey and interview results that showed a strong majority of players preferring a Flex spot. Similarly, although DraftKings probably knows that a minority of players really like CFL (compared to the strong majority of players who really like NFL), they are going to invest their limited guaranteed dollars where they think the majority of players want to play.

    *Disclaimer: I have no dog in this fight over expanding CFL, and had to look up EPL to find out what that is. The only point I’m trying to make is that the sites are ostensibly trying to “give the people what they want.” As players, nobody gets everything they want, but at least you have the option of playing CFL, unlike the players who no longer have the option of picking a Kicker.

  • Stewburtx8

    • 2012 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @gaelicgirl said...

    In the FanDuel Removing Kicker For Flex Spot thread, you commented that “There is obviously always going to be people that do not like a change that a site makes no matter what it is. They will be the vocal ones in a thread like this…But I think this is one change were I think a very strong majority of people would prefer a Flex player over a Kicker.”
    I’m going to hazard a guess here that DraftKings is making the same calculation regarding CFL, EPL, and other so-called “niche sports” that FanDuel made when it decided to change Kicker to Flex. Namely, that a very strong majority of players prefer to play American football over Canadian football or English Premier League soccer. So despite what FanDuel calls a “vocal minority of players” really liking the Kicker spot, they are going to cater to their survey and interview results that showed a strong majority of players preferring a Flex spot. Similarly, although DraftKings probably knows that a minority of players really like CFL (compared to the strong majority of players who really like NFL), they are going to invest their limited guaranteed dollars where they think the majority of players want to play.

    *Disclaimer: I have no dog in this fight over expanding CFL, and had to look up EPL to find out what that is. The only point I’m trying to make is that the sites are ostensibly trying to “give the people what they want.” As players, nobody gets everything they want, but at least you have the option of playing CFL, unlike the players who no longer have the option of picking a Kicker.

    Two completely different topics. I don’t really understand the point.

    It has nothing to do with majority vs minority (as replacing a kicker with flex did). A overwhelming majority of people play American Football DFS as compared to CFL. That has nothing to do with those that do play CFL and the contest offerings. Personally I play both, with a lot more volume in NFL. But DraftKings has consistently said that if CFL contests fill, they can grow them. Last week’s contest filled SEVEN hours early (I told them it was too small when it was posted). This week they offered the same size contest again. I’m just saying how they consistently contradict what they are telling us. This has been going on for 5+ years now.

  • gaelicgirl

    @Stewburtx8 said...

    Two completely different topics. I don’t really understand the point.

    It has nothing to do with majority vs minority (as replacing a kicker with flex did). A overwhelming majority of people play American Football DFS as compared to CFL. That has nothing to do with those that do play CFL. DraftKings has consistently said that if CFL contests fill, they can grow them. Last week’s contest filled SEVEN hours early (I told them it was too small when it was posted). This week they offered the same size contest again. I’m just saying how they consistently contradict what they are telling us.

    That’s why I used the word “ostensibly.” Did NFL contests on FanDuel ever not fill, even though the roster included the hated Kicker spot? I can’t say for sure, but I doubt it. But if that is the case, then one could argue that they had no good reason to change the Kicker spot to Flex. All that did was remove the differentiation between the sites. I’m just trying to draw the parallel to DraftKings refusing to increase the size of their CFL contests, even though they regularly fill hours early. Your complaint seems to be that DraftKings has no good reason not to increase their CFL offerings. That they are contradicting what they said they would do is a separate argument that I didn’t address.

  • ocdobv

    Trying to reserve 150 lineups into a gpp is absurdly inefficient on the app. I would like to see an option to enter more than 1 at a time.

    Also, please spend some money to fix the lineups page of the website. It’s near non-functional for players that enter a lot of lineups.

  • bigez952

    @gaelicgirl said...

    That’s why I used the word “ostensibly.” Did NFL contests on FanDuel ever not fill, even though the roster included the hated Kicker spot? I can’t say for sure, but I doubt it. But if that is the case, then one could argue that they had no good reason to change the Kicker spot to Flex. All that did was remove the differentiation between the sites. I’m just trying to draw the parallel to DraftKings refusing to increase the size of their CFL contests, even though they regularly fill hours early. Your complaint seems to be that DraftKings has no good reason not to increase their CFL offerings. That they are contradicting what they said they would do is a separate argument that I didn’t address.

    Over the years there has been enough complaints of how people don’t play Fandeul because picking a kicker in a DFS setting is stupid so even if contests were filling they may see an opportunity to further grow their contests over there. If Fandeul comes out this NFL season with smaller contests or the same sized contests as last year then I agree the change wouldn’t make any sense but they did so with the plan to grow their product as like top high volume player like escot have already said they left Fanduel years ago and may return now this season with the Flex over kicker.

    I agree with Stewburtx8 that these two issues are very different in one is Fanduel making changes to grow their user base and product while one is doing the exact opposite.

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    @ocdobv said...

    Trying to reserve 150 lineups into a gpp is absurdly inefficient on the app. I would like to see an option to enter more than 1 at a time.

    Also, please spend some money to fix the lineups page of the website. It’s near non-functional for players that enter a lot of lineups.

    Ditto for both of those

  • gaelicgirl

    @bigez952 said...

    like top high volume player like escot have already said they left Fanduel years ago and may return now this season with the Flex over kicker.

    He actually said he only stopped playing completely on FanDuel last season and that while he’s considering coming back, it’s probably going to depend on the prize pool for the NFL live final. He said he’ll probably at least play some on FanDuel again if their live final is competitive with DraftKings. But I care less about what the top high volume players like escot think than what the players who preferred having the Kicker spot over a Flex spot think, because I am part of the latter group. I get your point about FanDuel trying to grow their contests by making them more attractive to high volume players, and they have the right to make whatever changes they think will be beneficial to their site.
    It will indeed be interesting to see if the change results in larger contests than last season. Cheers!

    Welp, just read that escot will not be returning to FanDuel after all, due to the horrible payout structure of the larger contests.
    “Just flat-out unplayable for somebody who’s actually trying to profit.”
    I wonder how many other top high volume players will reach the same conclusion. Perhaps by changing the Kicker spot to Flex, FanDuel is simply putting a Band-Aid over the gaping wound that is their awful payout structure. This move could very well end up failing to grow their contests with big spenders while simultaneously alienating the smaller volume players who faithfully played there because they liked the Kicker spot and/or did not want a Flex spot. That would be rich.

  • Kjwhalen77

    Purely going to play DK for NFL due to payout structure. DK has a good chunk of 10% to first, flatter structured tourneys vs FD’s top heavy or huge fall off structures.

    Example:

    $25 Single Entry on FD – 3,764 entries ($80K pool)
    1st – $10K
    11th – $200 (8X return)

    $33 3-Max on DK – 3,498 entries ($99K pool)
    1st – $10K
    11th – $750 (22.7X return)
    65th – $250 (7.6X return)

  • 2Slik

    Alright DK, time to ramp up marketing for football season. Get rid of those $500 free contests for a couple weeks and start doing some (50x) free tshirt giveaways!

  • depalma13

    How about you replace the golfer who withdraws with the golfer who replaces him in a tournament.

  • thegeneral391

    Will there be a 10 Days of Giveaways for this NFL season?

  • TeamTwerk

    Why no 10:05 am PST 2 game MLB slate? Popular teams playing NYY and Bos. All we get are 2 pathetically tiny showdowns that are already about to fill. Extremely disappointed all around with the MLB offerings this season.

  • darko3131

    • 2016 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    At this time we do not offer a SB product, however DraftKings is excited about the possibilities opened by the overturn of PASPA and will be exploring all opportunities to expand both DFS and SB to sports fans everywhere.

    - DraftKings Community Team

    Any update on this question now that you do have a SB product? Would love to make DK my main sportsbook this Football season but need to know what’s going to happen at tax time if I’m up $20K in sportsbetting and down $20K in DFS on your site. Will they be looked at as a wash or would a tax form for $20K be issued…meaning I’m paying taxes even though I broke even in reality on DK.

  • Pats7914

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    I think a nice feature to add to the desktop website would be a lineup editing page that’s not an ever worsening complete laggy pile of garbage.

    I know its not as important to the core product as the thrill of experience points, but having the screen not freeze every other lineup or not having to reload the page manually while losing an in progress lineup every three minutes would be nice. Probably a lot to ask while I’m making the lineups that pay tens of thousands of dollars of monthly rake, but maybe a nice feature to implement someday for the worlds leading DFS site.

    Also, as a stretch goal, maybe we can make the filters work as intended. Perhaps if you hit the top level badge they could spring to life.

  • FkCoolers

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    This line up page is a huge issue and needs to be fixed once and for all. It actually functions worse than the last time there were issues, something I didn’t think possible.

    Half time time I can’t even scroll the page and my machine is basically begging for me to kill the page.

    How can you keep creating GPPs that cater to nothing but MME players and then have a website that doesn’t work for MME?

  • jjwd

    @FkCoolers said...

    This line up page is a huge issue and needs to be fixed once and for all. It actually functions worse than the last time there were issues, something I didn’t think possible.

    Half time time I can’t even scroll the page and my machine is basically begging for me to kill the page.

    How can you keep creating GPPs that cater to nothing but MME players and then have a website that doesn’t work for MME?

    Yep. It’s been that way forever. Very annoying.

  • mtdurham

    @JH822547 said...

    The multiple duplicate line ups argument is stupid.

    Imagine if you entered a single team in a 1000 team GPP and the other 999 line ups were identical, that would be an incredibly good situation yes?

    The same principle applies on a smaller scale if 10 of those 1000 teams are identical.

    No because if i lose to that lineup then they would take all the prize money ;)

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