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  • divusjulius

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    @escot4 said...

    Here’s an example of what I would consider a solid structure for a $10 tournament with a $375k prize pool:

    1st: $40,000
    2nd: $20,000
    3rd: $15,000
    4th: $10,000
    5-7: $7,000
    8-10: $4,000
    11-15: $2,000
    16-20: $1,000
    21-30: $500
    31-50: $300
    51-100: $200
    101-150: $150
    151-200: $100
    201-300: $80
    301-500: $60
    501-1000: $40
    1001-2000: $30
    2001-4000: $25
    4001-8425: $20

    I believe the math works out, but feel free to correct me if I got it wrong. This would be 10.67% to 1st, 31.47% to the top 10, at least 6x guaranteed if you make the top 1%, at least 4x if you make the top 2%, and best of all, at least 2x for cashing, which most would agree is very important. Pays out about 19.1% of the field.

    In my opinion, this type of structure gives a much more appropriate payout based on where you finish, and would pull a whole lot more players into long-term profitability. What do you guys think?

    yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

  • jmo26

    @escot4 said...

    In my opinion, this type of structure gives a much more appropriate payout based on where you finish, and would pull a whole lot more players into long-term profitability. What do you guys think?

    Agree 100%.

  • awilson45

    I feel like more people would play NHL if the GPPs were more enticing

  • hautalak

    @awilson45 said...

    I feel like more people would play NHL if the GPPs were more enticing

    Yes stop neglecting the NHL product. I get it is less popular but you do not give it the credit it deserves. The contests will fill, and even better if the structures improve.

  • KindGuy

    @elementasrat said...

    $5 GPP already seems to be gone in favor of the $8 “Rally Cap”.

    $5 “Knuckleball” last night.

    $8 “Rally Cap” tonight.

    Awesome.

  • TheRealJosh5

    More double up’s and 50/50’s.. It’s the only thing that FD has over DK that is better.. Some 3 max, 5 max double ups would be cool too.. Believe NFL has the 3 max double ups.

    The promo you’re running for FPP’s for MLB is like an awesome idea, hopefully you guys can do something like it for future sports like NBA, NFL ect.

  • DefinitelyMiami

    @TheRealJosh5 said...

    The promo you’re running for FPP’s for MLB is like an awesome idea, hopefully you guys can do something like it for future sports like NBA, NFL ect.

    plus 1

  • bootcampfan

    I’ll add yet another voice to flatter payout structure and 2x buy in for finishing in the money

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    At some point I may come back and voice specific concerns/ideas, but this is the first time checking into this thread and have only looked at this page, but wanted to say that I agree with everything said above.
    Not a single post/idea, literally everything here on page 4. (Guess I should go back and read the other pages now too)

  • tamparoor

    My complaint is about mma contest

    The only descent paying ones are the 150 max entry.

    Can we get a main single entry contest

    especially now since a fight or 2 or 3 get cancelled on every card

  • bigez952

    I will add another vote for a change in the payout structures. Last night in my $12 SE GPP I had an ok night and finished in the top 18% which is one level higher than an $18 min cash but I still didn’t win 2X my buy and only got $20. In this contest you need to finish in the top 13% before you get to 2X. I would much rather see only the top 20% paid with 2X min cashes vs. top 25% but everything from 14-25% is less than a 2X cash.

  • sjs1890

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBC Finalist

    Yeah the payout structures change seems unanimous in this thread that it needs improvement badly. For example that newly posted 700k $5 5th major classic for the players championship structure is just bad not to mention they made it a $5 dollar also so they can sneak in the 150 max.

  • mambaland

    It is my opinion that the high roller players prefer the top heavy payouts and the big pay day…it helps that they can multi entry to increase those odds.

    I would also say draftkings sends out surveys to let people give opinions on stuff like payouts. Keep in mind many many more people are not on RG threads than are on them so they have a voice as well.

  • mike291md

    @mambaland said...

    It is my opinion that the high roller players prefer the top heavy payouts and the big pay day…it helps that they can multi entry to increase those odds.

    I would also say draftkings sends out surveys to let people give opinions on stuff like payouts. Keep in mind many many more people are not on RG threads than are on them so they have a voice as well.

    Incorrect. Long-term (return) players want to sustain a profit. Yes, obviously, everyone is chasing 1st place every single time they enter a contest but they are also trying to place and maintain a profit going forward.

    Maybe I’m not a big enough player on DK but I’ve played there I believe around 5 years and never received any kind of survey. The payout structure as it stands right now does not equate well long-term. You may draw a few people who just want 1st place prizes, but let’s be realistic, how many players can actually sustain a 1st place finish every night? Likely no one. So it’s an unrealistic approach.

  • flip4flop

    Late to this thread due to cutting back my DFS play substantially over the last year due to the GPP payout structure. The rake increased and the top-heavy lottery style payouts actually forced me back to playing season long which I never thought was possible when DFS first started. Hopefully, someday DK or someone else will bring payouts back to something more sustainable for everyday players who are not mass multi-entry with a large roll.

  • Vanco

    I definitely echo the flatter payouts, 10% to first and 10% of that to 10th seems optimal and always 2x min cash.

    The opposite is true as well as the too low top payouts on the low dollar $1-3 buy-ins that are only paying 5% to first. I really like the $1 3max $10k strike three but top prize is only $500. Yesterday’s $30k moonshot was a 5% $1500 payout to first. Would definitely prefer those were moved up to 10% to first.

  • hendog

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    @mambaland said...

    It is my opinion that the high roller players prefer the top heavy payouts and the big pay day…it helps that they can multi entry to increase those odds.

    Yeah just to get echo mike291md, this is wrong. Many of the “high rollers” are advocates for flatter payouts, including in this very thread.

  • mambaland

    @hendog said...

    Yeah just to get echo mike291md, this is wrong. Many of the “high rollers” are advocates for flatter payouts, including in this very thread.

    possible but what high rollers are in this thread AKA the top 10 RG standings

  • KindGuy

    Am I the only one who doesn’t give a shit about payout structure?

    All I care about is rake, plain and simple. There could be a GPP with 100% to first- a winner take all on steroids-and I’d still play it if the rake is reasonable.

  • btwice80

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    @mambaland said...

    possible but what high rollers are in this thread AKA the top 10 RG standings

    lol, so the only high rollers are the ones who are top 10 in RG standings?

    There are high rollers who aren’t even registered with RG or at least don’t link their screen names to track results for standings. The guy who first suggested flatter payouts in this thread regularly plays $5K+ per night. The super top-heavy stuff appeals most to the casual players, plain and simple.

  • btwice80

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    The 10% to first thing everyone agrees to here shouldn’t be an across-the-board staple. The percentage to first place should be inversely relative to the number of entries.

  • Boooooourns

    • 2016 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    With the new Showdown contests and the latest trend of small slate contests, a change to the leaderboard needs to happen. It’s pointless to see 300 users tied for first, 500 users tied for second and that’s it. Group them together or something because the thrill of watching the leaderboard is lost.

  • Alvy76

    Not sure if anyone has brought up the fact of well known players still being able to enter $1 cash contests? What is being done to eliminate these types of players from the contests where the casual players play? At least it’s good to see the top stud players are never in these small stake contests.

  • NESBears120

    Flatter payout where min cash is 2x entry fee. More 100 man contests similar to what FanDuel does with their 100 mans

  • escot4

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    @btwice80 said...

    The 10% to first thing everyone agrees to here shouldn’t be an across-the-board staple. The percentage to first place should be inversely relative to the number of entries.

    I agree. 10% to first goes well with large contests, but higher buy-in contests with less entrants (especially when it’s less than 1,000 total entries) should give a higher percentage to first than 10.

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