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  • mtdurham

    @PeasantPower said...

    Can you guys make college football the way it was a few year ago before it went away? The pricing was on point, the game selection was great and plenty of people played it.

    Now the pricing is so absurdly tight that it pushes away all casuals and new players. Imagine NFL pricing where using Todd Gurley would make it so you could only use other guys below 4000. Thats basically how tight college pricing is right now.

    I love college DFS and just want to see it succeed

    I made a sarcastic response to this a few pages ago when you expressed this viewpoint on week 1 or 2….

    After having a few weeks of play under my belt here is my feeling:

    1) Pricing is just fine for Showdown Slates. It’s only 2 teams it doesn’t take much time to somewhat thoroughly research them.

    2) In GPP the player pool is ENTIRELY TOO LARGE… we’ve got a bunch of guys who are inactive, 5th string TE, 4th string walk on QB, etc… There is simply no way a casual fan can research all this stuff…. and if I dont feel confident that I’ve turned over every stone and made SURE there isn’t a minium to low priced guy who is starting today due to injuries/suspensions/personnel changes or coming back from injury/suspension himself…. I will either choose not to participate or only enter one lineup for fun rather than mass enter. In the NFL it’s fine…there’s only 32 teams and ~10-15 relevant offensive players. Most of these guys are fairly well known college stars, hyped young guys, or longtime veterans with mild turnover from year to year… but D1 football has ~120 teams and much larger player pools…not to mention massive turnover from year to year on the rosters so there’s no way I can familiarize myself with all these players.

    If a slate requires me to research several hundred players I’ve got an easy solution. Just don’t play it. Aint nobody got time for that.

    I can ASSURE you that most players would prefer that a 4th string TE who randomly catches a TD pass in a blowout is not in the player pool….. if it guaranteed we didnt have to reseach 25 team’s 4th string TE every slate.

    3) As far as pricing goes I’m okay with it as is IF you lessen the player pool. If you don’t lessen the player pool then I agree more with the make stars/well known players a little easier to squeeze in. The beauty of college football is that random guys can erupt for big games and star “chalk” players can get 80 yards and 0 TD against a stout defense or if they suffer an injury. Chalk doesnt concern me when there is such a wide variety of players to choose from.

    4) Unrelated, but I prefer tighter pricing on NFL which I believe tends to happen over the course of the season as recent performance becomes weighted heavier and long-term performance decreases in importance…

  • mtdurham

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    On a related note, we frequently read posts from RG users who assume that we can encourage players to participate in less popular sports. It doesn’t quite work that way, players have the freedom of choice. It’s not easy to convert an NFL player into a NBA player. We provide the platform and opportunity for them to do so, however the players frequently choose to participate in a new sport in their own.

    IMO the best way to promote new sports is focusing on two things you are already doing

    1) Emphasis on “Achievements” for each sport. There’s something about adding a gaming aspect and some financial incentive to play a new sport. It allows a player who is new to the sport (and will likely lose money initially) to offset some of his losses while he adapts to the nuances of each sport. It also gives you hope that if you can even become a break-even or better player in that sport and that the extra “crowns” and daily rewards might make that sport improve your profitability. It also allows you to throw the occasional lineup in a big money tournament and not feel completely outmatched as you would have been with little to no experience. In my example I only planned on ever participating in NBA. Once NBA ended and i saw the Achievements program I started trying baseball. As I grew to understand the sport I expanded into tiers (which I never played in NBA because I didnt like it) to earn more crowns. I used my knowledge from NBA showdowns (where I was successful) to win at showdown baseball while most others were experiencing quite the learning curve of lineup construction. Expanded into golf, now planning to try hockey, etc. Now I’m on to NFL tiers, NFL showdown, etc… all stuff I had no intention of playing and now have probably generated several thousand dollars worth of rake instead while myself and others collectively have raised the size of prize pools chasing these achievements.

    2) These (new?) 10 cent satellites… I know next to nothing about hockey so I’m not paying for a bunch $5 entries into an event I have little to no shot of winning. But 10 cent football satellites gives me a chance to play 250 lineups for fun (for $25) and you are essentially generating five, $5 buyins into the hockey Opening night event (whether i win the tickets or not is immaterial as my buyins are contributing to overall prize pool). I feel I’m good enough at football that I’ll win enough “additional” entry tickets to offset my relative lack of skill in hockey. In the meantime I’m increasing my fun in football, my stats towards achievements, and rake generated.

  • hendog

    • 2017 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    We want to offer something for everyone. There are times when this includes contests that have a flatter than normal payout structure that lets more players see the money. This contest is a good example of this scenario. The payout structure is the exception to the rule, it is not the norm.

    OK, I did overstate the point. It is not that all the low-stakes GPPs pay out a small % to first. But most of them do. All due respect, you are incorrect to say that this structure is the exception, not the norm. I calculated it myself with all the NFL GPPs posted so far this week with 5000 or more entries.

    One can break it down in many ways but I split it by roughly the median entry fee, $2.

    • Entry fee $2 or less:
      • Under 10% to first: 29 contests
      • 10% to first and up: 2
    • Entry fee over $2:
      • Under 10% to first: 8
      • 10% to first and up: 22

    Low stakes GPPs being incredibly flat is the overwhelming norm. This is even more consistent than the tendency of medium and high stakes GPPs to be steep at the top.

    To see it yourself, I made some plots. Although there are some exceptions, it is impossible to look at these plots and say there is not a relationship between buyin level and payout structure. This relationship is even stronger when it’s analyzed by % to top 10.

    See it here (chose to self-host rather than post as an image in order to get mouseovers to work).

    Notes:

    • size of circle = # of entries
    • there’s a small amount of randomness in the position of the circles so they don’t completely overlap
    • mouse over the circle to see the contest details

    I’m just trying to get all the information out there. As you say, you prioritize the first-place payout, in order to promote the overall size of the contests. But it is correct that you don’t do this nearly as much for the lowest stakes.

    You also say you try to promote variety. This whole exercise is to point out that there are holes in your variety. In particular, what I personally would like to see is more contests in the lower right of these plots.

    Edit: anyone want to see these with one of the other variables plotted, let me know.

  • Njsum1

    Does DK have the ability to offer late swap in NBA for only scratched players? Is it possible to solely unlock a player who is scratched and allow users to do a simple 1 for 1 swap? As you guys are probably well aware, full late swap severely disadvantages the causal or average player, which is why I’m deducting DK got rid of it in the first place.

    Most (probably close to all) users who are against a full late swap, are for the type of late swap swap where only the scratch gets unlocked and they can swap that player. It seems like the perfect solution to your late swap problem. People who want late swap will be happy, people who don’t, will also be happy. It’s also good for DK, as it will increase player retention. Just curious as to why DK isn’t going this route, instead of a full late swap? Is it too difficult technically or too costly to implement?

  • bigez952

    @Njsum1 said...

    Does DK have the ability to offer late swap in NBA for only scratched players? Is it possible to solely unlock a player who is scratched and allow users to do a simple 1 for 1 swap? As you guys are probably well aware, full late swap severely disadvantages the causal or average player, which is why I’m deducting DK got rid of it in the first place.

    Most (probably close to all) users who are against a full late swap, are for the type of late swap swap where only the scratch gets unlocked and they can swap that player. It seems like the perfect solution to your late swap problem. People who want late swap will be happy, people who don’t, will also be happy. It’s also good for DK, as it will increase player retention. Just curious as to why DK isn’t going this route, instead of a full late swap? Is it too difficult technically or too costly to implement?

    I 100% agree with this. The only potential issue I can see popping up would be for late scratches really close to lock. There can be nights where a guy is scratched 5 minutes before tip off and if DK is slow to get the news might not get the player unlocked to swap out before the game is fully locked. Those cases are probably rare but I see someone being upset by it if they caught the news before lock but didn’t get the opportunity to make the swap.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-community-what-would-you-like-to-know-2498166?page=42#reply-2667137

    OK, I did overstate the point. It is not that all the low-stakes GPPs pay out a small % to first. But most of them do. All due respect, you are incorrect to say that this structure is the exception, not the norm. I calculated it myself with all the NFL GPPs posted so far this week with 5000 or more entries.

    Fair point Hendog. We touched base with the contest management team to learn more next week, we will respond once we have the chance to review the data, and to provide context. We think this may be a side effect of the excessively large fields in NFL vs MLB, but that is just an educated guess. Once we have the chance to speak with the right team members, we will be happy to respond with our learnings.

    For the last 3-4 days my daily mission has been to play in a $27+ contest. I realize its randomized to a certain extent but is there an way to remove this, Im not sure if its trying to point me to a specific contest but I have no intention of playing at that price.

    Missions are offered using a machine learning algorithm that adjusts by considering your recent play and your past playing history. If you recently played in a $25 contest, then you are more likely to see a Mission to play in a $27 contest. You can ignore that mission and instead focus on the next offer that is more to your liking.

    Does DK have the ability to offer late swap in NBA for only scratched players?

    Not at this time, but we can assure you that this suggestion has been discussed.

    which is why I’m deducting DK got rid of it in the first place.

    We deprioritized Late Swap in the 2017-2018 NBA season because the players were split right down the middle 50/50, an equal number of players on both sides of the argument existed. By the end of the season the sentiment had changed, we found that 75% of our player community prefered Late Swap. You have our commitment to continue to capturing the data needed to determine with the best solution will be for the future, this is our decision for now, as the game evolves so will our policies on Late Swap.

    Is it too difficult technically or too costly to implement?

    It’s a very big task technically speaking to incorporate any form of limited Late Swap, much bigger than most players would assume. That doesn’t mean it is not being discussed or considered for the future – all options have been and will continue to be reviewed.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Attn DFS Experts: DraftKings is Hiring!

    We are looking to fill two important positions. Do you know anyone who might be interested in working with us? If so, please share this post and ask them to submit their resume.
    Player Pricing Associate

    As a Player Pricing Associate, you will utilize sports statistics and research to ensure the highest possible game quality by managing the player pool and assigning player prices. You must be detail-oriented since game quality is dependent on the player pool and salary execution.

    What you’ll do as a Player Pricing Associate:

    • Manage and execute pricing of player salaries.
    • Use your knowledge of the sports landscape to identify and manage problematic situations.
    • Work with a team of talented individuals to improve the product and business.
    • Identify and scope opportunities to streamline operational processes.
    • Work closely with the Product, Marketing, and Analytics teams.

    What skills you will use:

    1. A bachelor’s degree is required.
    2. You are passionate about sports and sports statistics.
    3. Strong quantitative and analytical abilities.
    4. You possess an ability to work in a start-up environment and around a sports schedule.
    5. Excel skills are required and previous experience with SQL is a plus.

    Do you want to apply for this job at DraftKings? If so please review the Job Description and submit your resume at http://careers.draftkings.com/apply.html?gh_jid=1331935

    - Steven & Christie, DraftKings Community Team

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Attn DFS Experts: DraftKings is Hiring!

    We are looking to fill two important positions. Do you know anyone who might be interested in working with us? If so, please share this post and ask them to submit their resume.

    Community Experience Associate

    We are looking for a Community Experience Associate who is passionate about turning data into dynamic, tangible business actions. You will measure the sentiment of our community at all times and help us find new ways to become a customer-first company. At DraftKings, we know consumers are more than numbers on a screen and when you join us, you’ll serve as their advocate.

    *What you’ll do as a Community Experience Associate: *

    • You will support a world class customer research and service team.
    • Promote operation enhancements that are driven by feedback from influential players within the community.
    • You will implement Net Promoter Score closed loop communications with sentiment promoters and detractors.
    • Mine Sportsbook and DFS social communities for sentiment drivers and participate in the crating of tailored messages within these communities.
    • Advocate for an “all players” mindset on behalf of the DraftKings Community Team as we grow the business.

    What skills you will use:

    • Ideally, you have a Bachelor’s degree in business management, public relations, journalism, or a related field.
    • Advanced Microsoft Office and Google Docs experience.
    • You are extremely detail-oriented and proactive.
    • You are passionate about sports and fantasy sports with an understanding of customer experience.

    Do you want to apply for this job at DraftKings? If so please review the Job Description and submit your resume at http://careers.draftkings.com/apply.html?gh_jid=1258288

    - Steven & Christie, DraftKings Community Team

  • hendog

    • 2017 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    Fair point Hendog. We touched base with the contest management team to learn more next week, we will respond once we have the chance to review the data, and to provide context. We think this may be a side effect of the excessively large fields in NFL vs MLB, but that is just an educated guess. Once we have the chance to speak with the right team members, we will be happy to respond with our learnings.

    Appreciate you looking into it and being willing to have this discussion with us. I’m glad you take my criticism as constructive and in good faith.

  • kujo33

    Not sure if this has been mentioned or not. I would love to be able to group contests (I mainly use the app) so that I can assign one lineup to all of them (cash lineup) without changing that lineup in all other contests. For example if I have 20 entries in the 20 max and decide to switch my cash lineup I either have to change the lineup for each cash contest individually or change the lineup and then hunt through my 20 entries in the GPP to find the duplicate.

  • Dunzor

    @kujo33 said...

    Not sure if this has been mentioned or not. I would love to be able to group contests (I mainly use the app) so that I can assign one lineup to all of them (cash lineup) without changing that lineup in all other contests. For example if I have 20 entries in the 20 max and decide to switch my cash lineup I either have to change the lineup for each cash contest individually or change the lineup and then hunt through my 20 entries in the GPP to find the duplicate.

    Ya it would be amazing if we could assign a name or a number to our lineups or something so that they could easily be identified in the app or within a contest. It would make late swap much easier and provide a better way to track lineups once contests are live. Also the ability to hide lineups or contests from your live view would be appreciated as well so that we don’t have to have the stinkers crowding the list when trying to sweat the best lineups

  • Klemmentine

    Regarding Thursday through Monday slates. If you enter one of these contests and don’t plan on using anyone in the Thursday game why do you have to have a lineup entered? If you reserve and don’t draft by kickoff you are locked out. Is there a reason you aren’t allowed to draft after Thursday kickoff?

  • tristanwolf

    can you guys add a single entry only filter to your contest types on the left. it seems like it would be pretty easy to do instead of scrolling and searching through all the time or am i missing something?

  • bigez952

    @tristanwolf said...

    can you guys add a single entry only filter to your contest types on the left. it seems like it would be pretty easy to do instead of scrolling and searching through all the time or am i missing something?

    Just search the word single in the contest search bar and you will get them all as they always have that in the description. That is what I do to see all the single entry contests. Same thing can be done for 3 entry max games.

  • KindGuy

    @bigez952 said...

    Just search the word single in the contest search bar and you will get them all as they always have that in the description. That is what I do to see all the single entry contests. Same thing can be done for 3 entry max games.

    Not true. The “single entry” string only appears in the title of single entry GPPS. What if you want ALL contests that only allow a single entry, such as small 50/50s, small satellites, etc?

  • biffrenylds

    @tristanwolf said...

    can you guys add a single entry only filter to your contest types on the left. it seems like it would be pretty easy to do instead of scrolling and searching through all the time or am i missing something?

    Would like an easy way to find them on the app too

  • Bdwestcoast

    I only use the mobile app. One thing I hate with every fiber in my body is the “In the past few days you’ve won ($)” message. Please get that nonsense off the app, or make it the true amount.

  • WaveyCrockett

    Are the MLB contests offered today some kind of sick joke?? I mean, the first couple NFL Sundays were bad enough, but this is so horrible I actually refuse to play more than a single dollar, strictly just to meet my achievement goal. So are you trying to ruin MLB so badly that we have no choice but to play these oversized NFL contests with a million entries or what exactly? Because I’m not into risking money with that kind of variance, so I’m just not playing any money at all and I doubt I’m alone.

    I get that there is a slight decrease as some people move on to NFL and stop playing baseball, but it’s nowhere near this drastic of a decrease. I have never wanted to spend money with a company but then couldn’t, so it seems DraftKings is losing money on purpose.

    There are less entries TOTAL from every single contest COMBINED today than there usually are total entries in ONE Four-seamer or Rally Cap contest held every day this season. You can’t tell me that makes any sort of sense whatsoever. I see the contests filling just fine every day, and sometimes early. We all do. Except whoever decides what contests there will be evidently.

  • bigez952

    @elementasrat said...

    Not true. The “single entry” string only appears in the title of single entry GPPS. What if you want ALL contests that only allow a single entry, such as small 50/50s, small satellites, etc?

    Do multi entry 50/50’s even exist as I don’t really play them but I have never seen one. I usually stick to the double up side of things and those include single entry in the title. I don’t play satellites but don’t those usually allow multi entry as well? Any contest size under 650-700 also has to be single entry per the max 3% of entries per user rule. I am curious now to see if there any contests over 700 people that are single entry but not properly labeled.

    They should change the current contest size filters to allow you search for contests of a larger range of sizes instead of just 20 or under so you can easily find some of these small contests which are forced to be single entry per the entry limits. The filters should go up to 1000+ which would cover that.

    From what I have seen DK does a great job on labeling the entry limits of any contest that differs what what is allowed per the max entry limits of whichever is less between 150 or 3% of the entire contest.

  • bigez952

    @biffrenylds said...

    Would like an easy way to find them on the app too

    You can search on the app as well. When in the lobby pull the list down and the contest search bar appears.

  • bigez952

    @Bdwestcoast said...

    I only use the mobile app. One thing I hate with every fiber in my body is the “In the past few days you’ve won ($)” message. Please get that nonsense off the app, or make it the true amount.

    I agree with this one. It technically is a “true” amount as you really did win that amount but it doesn’t take into account but in’s. No way they would update it to show people negative numbers as that would turn people off and it is probably in place simmilar to the logic behind XP where some people might play more to get that number bigger even if they are spending $500 to win $375 in the last 7 days lol.

    However it does personally annoy me knowing I had a terrible week and still have to stare at that green number trying to give me false hope that I didn’t really lose a bunch of money in the last 7 days. I play fairly consistent amounts so at least I can usually do the math to know where I stand fairly quickly.

  • Dunzor

    @bigez952 said...

    Any contest size under 650-700 also has to be single entry per the max 3% of entries per user rule.

    I think you got your math wrong there, a lot of the small satellites can be either single entry or mult depending on how many tickets are up for grabs and size of contest, but 3% of 100 entries would still be 3 lineups so contests that are 600-700 could still allow up to 18-21 entries per person.

    I’m not positive what the regulations are, but I forget if the 3% cap applies to contests under a certain $ amount, but anyway you’d have to get down to like 70 entrants or less for that regulation to cap something at single entry

  • bigez952

    @Dunzor said...

    I think you got your math wrong there, a lot of the small satellites can be either single entry or mult depending on how many tickets are up for grabs and size of contest, but 3% of 100 entries would still be 3 lineups so contests that are 600-700 could still allow up to 18-21 entries per person.

    I’m not positive what the regulations are, but I forget if the 3% cap applies to contests under a certain $ amount, but anyway you’d have to get down to like 70 entrants or less for that regulation to cap something at single entry

    Your right I was being pretty dumb this morning and had an extra 0 in there so my calculations in my head were for 0.3% and not 3%.

  • damon2479

    Sure this has been asked but is College football only available in New Jersey. Or where gambling has been legalized

  • Pats7914

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    Can I edit lineups for already enetered contests I I travel to a banned state? Support said no, but other players have told me yes. I figured it would be worth asking here because Im sure others are interested in this from time to time. If different “banned” states have different editing rules too, that would be good to know. Thanks.

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