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  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    On behalf of DraftKings, we are proud to announce our newly created Community team. Our group was formed to listen, engage, and advocate for the player community at large while championing our industry leading commitment to a world class game experience. We are here to represent your feedback inside the walls of DraftKings, because your ideas can help us deliver an increasingly better experience for all players. You can read our introductory post here: https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-cm-is-now-on-rotogrinders-2496208

    Now it’s your chance – what would you like to know? Do you have a suggestion you would like to share? We will do our best to answer all honest and respectful questions you post in this thread, in turn we hope to help players like you have a better understanding of how the world’s largest fantasy sports ecosystem works. Please allow us some time before responding to your questions and comments, you deserve well thought out answers – and that takes time.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • rgreuli

    This happens more often than not…Morning Skates Results.

    DK – Entry Fees $28 Won $21.08
    FD – Entry Fees $29 Won $311.50

    Used a core of Parayko, Bernier and Athanasiou on both sites.

    Conclusion. More fees will be going to Fan Duel with less to Draft Kings until payout structure and game structure changes.

  • NoLimits0

    I was wondering if there would be more exposures to live events. There used to be a lot of promos and interviews for live events, but it has seemed to faded recently. I’m very curious to hear the stories and lifestyles of top pros.

  • Cocomilk

    Why are the cbb and mma contests always so small? they always fill

  • jki7p6

    Active Drip Bonus? Something newly activated or I just missed it?

  • fcbjakub

    Please can you increase the number of entrants in 100$ double up in NBA, its always 55 … with at least 50 sharks in it, if the entrants number was 100 or so I would enter but with 50 I avoid it and I wish I didnt have to

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    To your first point, how many times have you offered a large $4 20-max that wasn’t also paired with a “main” GPP of the night that’s a $20, $33, or $40, and is comparatively much smaller? It doesn’t seem to be an accurate test when it isn’t the actual “main” GPP of the night. I rarely play your $4 GPPs when there’s a $20 going, etc.
    To your second point, it’s the overall exposure that matters, at least to me. I get that each individual entry technically has the same chance to win (adjusted to skill), but that doesn’t make it any more enjoyable when I see the same names at the top of the leaderboards every tournament thanks in large part to their maxing out the entries (I am not suggesting that max enterers only do well because of the number of entries, as it still takes a large amount of skill for most sports, but in the NHL where there are not too many viable combinations, max entry has an undeniably disproportionate effect on results).

    To clarify, are you more concerned with the $4 price point or the 20 max?

    Each sport is designed to support enough contests as the user base demands. It’s no secret that the NHL user base cannot support the same group of contests that other sports can. Like you, we wish for nothing more than the continued growth of fantasy hockey, that would benefit DK just as it would benefit you. We continue to promote the sport and look for opportunities to expand, but this is a chick/egg scenario – we cannot build the biggest games without the entry liquidity needed to back up our growth attempts. You have our commitment to keep trying!

    When will the payout structure change for tournaments!!!!! the drop off in payouts is crazy!!!!

    We are in the middle of a long process of reviewing and revising our payout structures while maintaining a wide diversity of options. The diversity of structures are used as tools by our contest operations team to maintain balance throughout the ecosystem. We will continue to study the data on hand and will communicate with the DFS community throughout this process.

    Be. Consistent. Either suck or don’t. If you don’t regular players will be much happier.

    For clarity, consistency is what we aim to avoid. We understand that the reasons why are counter intuitive, the evidence shows us that consistency results in contests that are less likely to fill over time. That would in turn result in smaller guarantees – something most of our customers hope does not occur. What some users may see as unattractive contests are the very contests that other users have been clamoring for. It’s impossible to please everyone, so we do our best to mix up contests and payout structures regularly. We wish to please as many users as possible which requires us to offer a variety of contests and payout structures.

    PS: We are hyper focussed on meeting the needs of the less frequent customers. Do you see why that is both good for DraftKings, casual players, and “regular players” at the same time?

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Hey DK, I’d like a reasonable explanation as to why y’all keep whiffing on the supply vs demand for the MMA Cards. Y’all had to know the UFC hookin on with ESPN would be good, right? I’m not even mad, just genuinely curious as to how y’all keep f’n that up.

    The evaluation of each MMA card makes it very difficult to size the contests – it is a very subjective process. We attempt to increase contest sizes whenever possible, provided our prediction models assume that he contest will fill.

    Conclusion. More fees will be going to Fan Duel with less to Draft Kings until payout structure and game structure changes.

    We are in the process of evaluating opportunities to diversify our payout structures while maintaining balance throughout the ecosystem. We will continue to study the data on hand and will continue to communicate with the DFS community throughout this process. Pro Tip – We rarely discuss strategy in RG, yet this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that using the same core across two different sites that offer totally different pricing may not be optimal. This is a comparison of two very different sites, that have very different salary models, thus the two different results is not at all surprising.

    I was wondering if there would be more exposures to live events. There used to be a lot of promos and interviews for live events, but it has seemed to faded recently. I’m very curious to hear the stories and lifestyles of top pros.

    We agree that storytelling of willing participants adds a new layer of enjoyment to our live events. Over time, we intend to evolve our live event experience for the fans enjoying it from home like yourself – there is always room for improvement. You have our commitment to a continued effort of improving our live event experiences for both those participating as well as the spectators enjoying the action from afar.

    This is also a good opportunity to remind the community that not everyone who plays DFS is interested in fame/notoriety. DraftKings does its best to respect the privacy of customers who attend live events when requested (within reason of course).

    Active Drip Bonus? Something newly activated or I just missed it?

    This is a bonus that was uniquely targeted to you based on your playing experience. If you have any questions about the bonus, please email our support team at support@draftkings.com.

    Please can you increase the number of entrants in 100$ double up in NBA, its always 55 … with at least 50 sharks in it, if the entrants number was 100 or so I would enter but with 50 I avoid it and I wish I didnt have to

    Like this?

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • bigez952

    Any Update on when MLB Achievements will be released for this season? Curious to know if they will be in time to include the two Tokyo Games this week.

  • jriddell

    I had the same question about MLB Achievements.

    I had another question about PGA Achievements. On the ‘Birdie Machine’ achievement, I apparently hit level 10 exactly. Per the T&C, I thought there was supposed to be a Super Achievement after level 5. However, I cannot see what the next level is after level 10. Are there additional levels?

  • rannas23

    Is there a way to set your settings in DraftKings where it automatically does not use crowns when entering…have to switch between crowns and cash and would like to set my default back to cash.

  • SkateFiend

    DK is not accepting lineup changes. The changes I made are applied (before lock) to some ghost lineup but the actual lineup remain the same.

    I’ve been trying to swap out Mcgee for Len for the last 20 minutes or so, it’s not going through.

  • SkateFiend

    There’s something wrong with DK, at least on my end. I can’t make change my lineups at the lineups page.

  • fcbjakub

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    Hey DK, I’d like a reasonable explanation as to why y’all keep whiffing on the supply vs demand for the MMA Cards. Y’all had to know the UFC hookin on with ESPN would be good, right? I’m not even mad, just genuinely curious as to how y’all keep f’n that up.

    The evaluation of each MMA card makes it very difficult to size the contests – it is a very subjective process. We attempt to increase contest sizes whenever possible, provided our prediction models assume that he contest will fill.

    Conclusion. More fees will be going to Fan Duel with less to Draft Kings until payout structure and game structure changes.

    We are in the process of evaluating opportunities to diversify our payout structures while maintaining balance throughout the ecosystem. We will continue to study the data on hand and will continue to communicate with the DFS community throughout this process. Pro Tip – We rarely discuss strategy in RG, yet this is a good opportunity to remind everyone that using the same core across two different sites that offer totally different pricing may not be optimal. This is a comparison of two very different sites, that have very different salary models, thus the two different results is not at all surprising.

    I was wondering if there would be more exposures to live events. There used to be a lot of promos and interviews for live events, but it has seemed to faded recently. I’m very curious to hear the stories and lifestyles of top pros.

    We agree that storytelling of willing participants adds a new layer of enjoyment to our live events. Over time, we intend to evolve our live event experience for the fans enjoying it from home like yourself – there is always room for improvement. You have our commitment to a continued effort of improving our live event experiences for both those participating as well as the spectators enjoying the action from afar.

    This is also a good opportunity to remind the community that not everyone who plays DFS is interested in fame/notoriety. DraftKings does its best to respect the privacy of customers who attend live events when requested (within reason of course).

    Active Drip Bonus? Something newly activated or I just missed it?

    This is a bonus that was uniquely targeted to you based on your playing experience. If you have any questions about the bonus, please email our support team at support@draftkings.com.

    Please can you increase the number of entrants in 100$ double up in NBA, its always 55 … with at least 50 sharks in it, if the entrants number was 100 or so I would enter but with 50 I avoid it and I wish I didnt have to

    Like this?

    - DraftKings Community Team

    Yea like that but its only 1 all day!! and than you uave a couple of 55 people, come on, dont give me this louzy answer. And you think out of those 88 are normal players huh ?? joke thanks

  • snakes11

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    What happen to the MLB showdown format? It has a captain now and Relief Pitch is gone. MLB Showdowns last year were great. Gambling on a RP was the best part!!!! So disappointed by this change.

  • bigez952

    @snakes11 said...

    What happen to the MLB showdown format? It has a captain now and Relief Pitch is gone

    RP’s are not gone in showdown mode they just got rid of the dumb inflated bonuses so you could win just by picking out a guy who came in to pitch 3 mediocre innings. You can still play RP’s and win if they come in and have dominate performances and all of the RP’s are min priced so it is still a viable strategy to gamble on one to fit in a bunch of high priced players.

    I think this is a great change as I hated the MLB showdown format last year. Now I will be much more willing to play it this year with the changes made.

  • humanash

    @snakes11 said...

    What happen to the MLB showdown format? It has a captain now and Relief Pitch is gone. MLB Showdowns last year were great. Gambling on a RP was the best part!!!! So disappointed by this change.

    Shark’s algorithms couldn’t keep up with the in-game theory and usage possibilities so they had to render RPs ineffective and add the Captain slot to to ensure the mathematically optimal lineups align more closely with the shark’s projections and optimizers.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Any Update on when MLB Achievements will be released for this season? Curious to know if they will be in time to include the two Tokyo Games this week.

    This season’s MLB Achievements program does not include this week’s Tokyo games.

    I had another question about PGA Achievements. On the ‘Birdie Machine’ achievement, I apparently hit level 10 exactly. Per the T&C, I thought there was supposed to be a Super Achievement after level 5. However, I cannot see what the next level is after level 10. Are there additional levels?

    There are 10 milestones in total. Your account is on the record for having achieved milestone 10 – congratulations, we hereby declare you a ‘Birdie Machine’!

    Is there a way to set your settings in DraftKings where it automatically does not use crowns when entering…have to switch between crowns and cash and would like to set my default back to cash.

    Your web browser recalls the last form of payment you used to enter a lineup and defaults to that same option the next time you are submitting a lineup (unless you clear your cookies). There is currently no default option on the mobile native app, but we assure you that we will continue to improve with the intent of offering our users the best experience possible.

    There’s something wrong with DK, at least on my end. I can’t make change my lineups at the lineups page.

    We cannot discuss the details of your private account on a public forum. Please contact support@draftkings.com and we will provide further assistance..

    What happen to the MLB showdown format? It has a captain now and Relief Pitch is gone. MLB Showdowns last year were great. Gambling on a RP was the best part!!!! So disappointed by this change.

    Think of it this way. It is our job to change the game, if the game is stale, we aren’t doing a great job. Our extensive modeling verifies that adding the Captain spot in MLB contests will decrease the likelihood of ties, and removing the RP spot will provide the change we need to keep skillful players on their toes.

    On a related note, going forward we have new procedure in place to help improve communications with major DFS content providers (such as RotoGrinders) in advance of some major game format changes such as this. This will allow content providers to adjust their tools, so they are ready to incorporate new models prior a season start. Players such as yourself helped us to realise this improvement was necessary, we thank you for that. DraftKings is always learning, we continue to evolve and improve!

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • ttucowboy84

    “The evaluation of each MMA card makes it very difficult to size the contests – it is a very subjective process. We attempt to increase contest sizes whenever possible, provided our prediction models assume that he contest will fill.”

    Fair. Thanks for the response!

    EDIT: Having trouble with the quote feature for some reason so I added the quotes.

  • TeamTwerk

    So the $4 NBA contest filled easily every day with 37,000 entries and out of the blue a few days ago you decide to change it to 22,000 entries? Why? I’m not playing that garbage tournament and I’m not playing your $15 tournament either. You filled a 110,000 entry $4 tournament a week or 2 ago. That could happen everyday. Nobody cares what name you want to call the contest.

  • DefendFreedom

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    VERY disappointed with the 2019 MLB Achievements. I played MLB on your site exclusively last season just to chase them. I’ll still be an active player on your site but I’ll also be looking elsewhere to throw my money away during the baseball season. So a big Thank You for making me get off my butt and checking out other sites.

  • whoisjohngalt420

    @DefendFreedom said...

    disappointed with the 2019 MLB Achievements

    Felt this way as well when I saw them. If this had been the first season of them I likely would not have felt that way. But, having last years to compare with it’s definitely a disappointment. They’ve reduced a lot of the value that was available by removing some good value achievements from last year.

    I had actually started reserving entries when the first slate was first added, expecting to go into the season with the same volume based approach I had success with last season. Yesterday, after seeing the details of this years achievements I withdrew all those entries. I will def still play every day but rather than 100+ line ups per day I’ll just be doing a few.

  • snakes11

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    @DefendFreedom said...

    VERY disappointed with the 2019 MLB Achievements. I played MLB on your site exclusively last season just to chase them. I’ll still be an active player on your site but I’ll also be looking elsewhere to throw my money away during the baseball season. So a big Thank You for making me get off my butt and checking out other sites.

    As some one who cleared all the achievements last year I too am very disappointed in the cut back. Between this and the change to the showdown scoring its kind of a bummer to start the season.

  • sutogame

    Where are the pitcher achievements?

    No K’s, No IP, No Wins. Seems like you totally left the pitcher out of the achievements.

    The no hitter pitcher achievement is laughable.

  • bigez952

    What is the reasoning for keeping the top level of achievements hidden as “super milestones” that you unlock as you get there? To me keeping them hidden immediately thinks they are underwhelming so I would never chase them. If they are something really good you would think you want to hang that carrot out there as a reason to multi enter every day.

  • humanash

    @DraftKings_CM said...

    It is our job to change the game, if the game is stale, we aren’t doing a great job.

    The Classic format hasn’t changed since I joined DK 4 years ago. If you want to talk about a stale game, let’s start there.

    In the meantime, your Showndown changes are not exciting or good for the game. Relief pitchers are big stars, are becoming a bigger part of baseball all the time, and they are the center of the action during the most exciting parts of the game. They also represent 1/3 of the average MLB roster. If my favorite team has a stud closer, it would be cool to at least have him be a viable DFS play sometimes. By removing them from the scoring, you’re making the game way less fun and exciting. When you can play RPs, when the real game is on the line, so is the fantasy game. You’re on the edge of your seat, with the outcome of your team in the balance and directly correlated to the action on the field. Now in the vast majority of Showdowns, the DFS outcome is more or less decided by the 5th inning. When the actual game is hanging in the balance, the DFS tournament is no longer competitive or exciting to follow. That is my biggest beef with the new changes. I watched probably 50+ games last year that I otherwise would have had no interest in just because there was a Showdown. Many of them had me standing up and screaming at my tv! Assuming that I can be similarly profitable under the new rules, the games will still be so much less enjoyable to watch. Isn’t that why we all play DFS in the first place – to make watching the game more fun and exciting?

    I also still can’t shake the feeling that the new rules benefit people who are experts at covering combinations in DFS at the expense of people who are experts about baseball. Seems lame, I want to live in a world where the person who knows the most about baseball wins the most DFS money. It feels very counter-intuitive to me to have a DFS format where extensive knowledge about the sport is worthless and/or penalized.

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