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  • KushBush

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    BREAKING: NY Attorney General says daily fantasy is gambling & illegal, says DraftKings & FanDuel must cease operating & taking action in NY

    :( i wanted to play skinny lowry

  • Richebee

    RIP

    https://www.change.org/p/new-york-state-senate-alabama-state-senate-alaska-state-senate-u-s-senate-arizona-state-senate-arkansas-state-senate-california-state-senate-colorado-state-senate-connecticut-state-senate-legalize-daily-fantasy-sports

  • wideopen23

    With the NY Attorney General shutting down Fanduel and Draftkings I can assure you other states will follow suit. It’s only a matter of time. I am an atheist, but we all need to pray that the NFL and other major sports pool their money together to fight this nonsense.

    Signed
    Very disgruntled New Yorker

  • Cal

    RG CoFounder & Admin

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      2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    Moderation Note:

    Keep discussion in here civil. There’s no need to assign blame. If you’re in NY, contact your representatives. FD and DK could very well fight this in court.

    The DFS Players Conference is on as scheduled. If there are any changes we’ll post them here. We’re in touch with both Fanduel and DraftKings and should have more info tomorrow.

  • electrichaz3

    Since there are 2 threads it’s worth mentioning in here that dk/FD will not be pulling out and challenging in court as per several tweets that just came out. Reference the stickie thread for more info.

  • scsa1998

    I really wish this news came down 5 days ago before I bought League Pass.

  • yoteach

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    @scsa1998 said...

    I really wish this news came down 5 days ago before I bought League Pass.

    Send that message to the NBA, NHL, MLB, and NFL!

  • stubbysooner77

    • 2015 DraftKings FCFWC Finalist

    Tinfoil isn’t really needed right now. I would think hopefully DK and FD were prescient enough to lawyer up and formulate a plan of action. The attorney general isn’t the legislature and just because he says something is gambling or illegal doesn’t make it so. In Oklahoma, our attorney general routinely makes pronouncements of the legalities of things and is batting below the Mendoza line when his grand legal pronouncements are challenged in court. I don’t know the NY AG but he’s a politician like all AG’s are and probably has an eye on elected office. Not sure this will make him very popular but it is what it is. Now it’s up to the courts. I predict it won’t be quite so clear as the AG seems to think.

  • tacoface

    NY’er daily player for years with a significant amount of Frequent Player Points on Draftkings here. Should we consider our frequent player points and account balance as good as dead. I had hoarded my FPP’s since joining a number of sites. What recourse do we have with FPP’s?

  • alomar15

    • 2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

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      2015 FanDuel CFB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Can they fight for Nevada too then

  • y2mulder

    @stubbysooner77 said...

    Tinfoil isn’t really needed right now. I would think hopefully DK and FD were prescient enough to lawyer up and formulate a plan of action.

    Seeing as how their plan from Nevada was “OK, we will leave in 15 minutes”, and then hiring JUSTINE SACCO, I dont think their playbook runs very deep.

  • scsa1998

    I say spend them while you still can. If I remember correctly Nevada people were not able to do anything with them(someone correct me if i’m wrong)

  • milktruck2

    @y2mulder said...

    Seeing as how their plan from Nevada was “OK, we will leave in 15 minutes”, and then hiring JUSTINE SACCO, I dont think their playbook runs very deep.

    Seriously. These sites have been generating insane amounts of revenue but it’s clear that money wasn’t spent properly, whether it was the ill-advised advertising blitz, the incompetent spokespeople who failed to control the message or their lawyers/lobbyists.

  • wideopen23

    @stubbysooner77 said...

    Tinfoil isn’t really needed right now. I would think hopefully DK and FD were prescient enough to lawyer up and formulate a plan of action. The attorney general isn’t the legislature and just because he says something is gambling or illegal doesn’t make it so. In Oklahoma, our attorney general routinely makes pronouncements of the legalities of things and is batting below the Mendoza line when his grand legal pronouncements are challenged in court. I don’t know the NY AG but he’s a politician like all AG’s are and probably my has an eye on elected office. Not sure this will make him very popular but it is what it is. Now it’s up to the courts. I predict it won’t be quite so clear as the AG seems to think.

    Most of the time companies cave into the demands of the AG. I hope Fanduel and Draftkings fight this but I am not optimistic.

    As a NYer this is awful news, but those outside of NY should be VERY afraid that this starts a trend.

    I also wonder how this impacts the smaller DFS sites. This statement by the AG only applied to FD and DKs.

    FYI, i personally know current and former members of the NYS Senate and Assembly and am politically active in NY. I will do my best to speak to these people tomorrow but I highly doubt they will care.

  • Simba19

    Man I hope this isn’t the writing on the wall for all states…time for FD and DK lawyers to step up their game DaMn πŸ˜•

  • punton1st

    Now watch sports TV ratings plummet across the board. I gotta admit I would not watch that much NBA without DFS.

  • Hoss_Man

    Tax it and move on. Geez. I don’t know who’s stupider, the politicians or the voters who keep voting them in.

  • scsa1998

    @punton1st said...

    Now watch sports TV ratings plummet across the board. I gotta admit I would not watch that much NBA without DFS.

    Without DFS i won’t watch any NBA, and it sucks cause I just signed up for league pass for the 3rd season in a row. And the only reason I buy it is because of DFS.

  • Mattg45

    Ya next year I’m done with nfl Sunday ticket, I wish I could cancel midseason now

  • DavidK44

    @Cal said...

    Moderation Note:

    Keep discussion in here civil. There’s no need to assign blame. If you’re in NY, contact your representatives. FD and DK could very well fight this in court.

    The DFS Players Conference is on as scheduled. If there are any changes we’ll post them here. We’re in touch with both Fanduel and DraftKings and should have more info tomorrow.

    Although I do agree things should be kept civil, I fail to see why the discussion of this topic should not include discussion of how it can be argued that the recent attacks on DFS, including this one by the NY AG, are a result of short-sighted decisions made by DK and FD. It won’t change the past, but at the same time, it’s still an important conversation. I, like many, believe that a big reason there have been so many recent attacks is because of negative perceptions of the two companies, brought on in large part by their own decisions and tactics. So yes, I am blaming them.

  • rebkell

    @punton1st said...

    Now watch sports TV ratings plummet across the board. I gotta admit I would not watch that much NBA without DFS.

    No doubt about that, I’ve got League Pass and I sure wouldn’t spring for it if not for DFS.

  • punton1st

    Greed killed DFS. Period.

  • gje627

    The “solution” seems simple enough….

    To me anyways, what FD and DK really need to do is to change their contest rules/scoring to make fantasy sports truly a game of skill and not chance.

    I think if we all honestly look at the current scoring, luck and chance play a significant role in determining winners and losers in DFS, particularly in large GPPS (for example, who honestly projected Cole Beasley to go off on Sunday night for the Cowboys against the Eagles).

    …..

    As far as bashing Maxdulary and other high-volume players, that’s nonsense…. He was playing by the rules so why blame him?

    Same goes for the NY AG. His job is to interpret and apply NY state law. If he and his legal staff determine DFS is illegal according to NY state law it is his legal responsibility to enforce the law. In other words, without proper legal standing he is not simply shutting down DFS in NY because he has a moral objection to it. He is making his decision based on the rule of law.

    Seriously, do you really think the NY AG is making his decision willy-nilly and without proper legal standing?

    Finally, for all those who suggest we need to vote the bums out of office and “March Washington” based on this issue alone I, for one, find this EXTRAORDINARILY SAD.

    There are so many other issues worth marching for (women and children being molested and killed in Syria and Iraq, children and elderly in America living day-to-day not knowing where their next meal will come from, veterans dying due to months long waits for proper medical care from our nations VA, and on and on).

    Okay, I vented…. Let’s all put on our “big boy (and girl) pants”, insist that FD and DK (and the other sites) change the rules of DFS to make it truly a game of skill so we can all play “happily” and then focus more of our hard-earned attention (and compassion) on more serious and worthwhile issues….

    Bash away at me if you please :)

  • bigtroll04

    Canada doesn’t want you either

  • Mattg45

    I can speak for me and a few buddies of mine that we used to gamble with bookies and underground places , but when we discovered dfs we all loved it and gave up on betting with illegal bookies. With this ruling I wonder how many people will go back to shady bookies and illegal underground lounges were people are at risk to get robbed, beat up or even killed. I’m not saying morally right or wrong but I will say that people will do it anyway, so tax it, keep it online and people can do it in the comfort of their own home. I guess you could say the same thing for some other laws.

  • jigandreel

    and although FanDuel and DraftKings say they will fight, are they going to risk keeping the games open and have their executives charged with a felony? I doubt it.

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