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  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Remember that PPD a week ago for the WSH vs BAL game where they cancelled it despite no rain? i begged them for my money back cuz i had players from that game and they gave it back to me, 200 bucks. how fair is that to everyone else?

    i wasnt going to say anything, but i am seeing the recent posts about DK and ive had enough of the “integrity” team, which is total garbage.

  • Heterodox

    @petteytheft89 said...

    I hope you can look at yourself and realize what you did is completely out of line and screws over others.

    Something that’s bothered me about this thread is people saying things like “no self-respecting high roller would ask for a refund” and “who would even ask” and the thing I’ve quoted here.

    We don’t say these things about people who collude. We say, “of course, they’re in this for money”. We don’t say what petteytheft says about 6-7 figure bankroll players playing low-stakes contests. We say “it’s +EV, so why wouldn’t they?”

    So when it’s Ryazan, the expectation is on the player to abstain, because we don’t like him. But when it’s literally anyone else, the expectation is on the sites, and the player can’t be blamed. I don’t believe for a second that a big time player wouldn’t ask for a refund if they thought there was a decent chance of getting one. Why would they leave money on the table? And I don’t see why Ryazan should be the only player in DFS held accountable for actions that aren’t in the best interests of the larger community. Or, at least, if you’re going to criticize him for that, have some consistency the next time someone posts complaining about high stakes players in dollar and quarter contests. (That’s a general statement, not directed solely at you, petteytheft. I have no idea what your stance on that issue is)

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @petteytheft89 said...

    Ryazan, it’s people like you abusing the system and people’s emotions that lead to people like her (if story is true) not getting what they hope for. I hope you can look at yourself and realize what you did is completely out of line and screws over others. You’re trying to lead a crusade against DK and all you have here is one side. You don’t know DK’s side and after lying about what you said to DK here, what makes you think she isn’t doing the same?

    It’s crazy to even think that Top10 would lie about anything but after seeing you do the same exact thing and lie, it’s crossed my mind which sucks.

    Well the reason i asked for my money back isnt related to my lie – its because i stacked the PPD game and had only 1 lineup that night, so there was no lie that the PPD ruined the slate for me and instantly lost me my money.

    Edit – it wasnt a total lie, but an exaggeration. Im not rich over here, but losing that money wasnt going to cause any issues in my life, i was just real upset about that PPd.

  • kb32dawgs

    @Top10only said...

    Sweetie ? Is this a joke. I won and lost 15 grand in a week’s time. I’m pretty sure I can handle it. I’m pretty sure changing diapers and handling an ADHD child with the utmost patience is a little harder then a game “sweetie”. Things like this are exactly the issue. People immediately think a person is weak or unworthy because of words typed on a screen, gender, or skin color.

    And your so called craziness in the industry if you weren’t so blind and allowed to be led like sheep is simply supply and demand and money and who has the most. I never stayed I was upset about money or that was the case or that dfs was my income. I have a degree and am saving up for grad school while raising a family so trust me hun, I’m just fine. But I’m not going to be quiet while people do what they please with my hard earned money on simple principal .Jesus turned the other cheek and I do at times, but you have to draw a line somewhere. Thank you for your input and good day sir.

    Won and lost 15k in a week? Then show your results on Rotogrinders or it didn’t happen.And reading through your novel of whining shows me your weakness to handle this game. My “sweetie” term is not a term of disrespect, so don’t’ take it that way. If you get so bent out of shape at this industry that you feel to write this much about it, then maybe this isn’t for you, that’s all I was saying.

  • Top10only

    @Heterodox said...

    So, having chastised the posters whose condescending dismissals irritated me, I guess I’ll second this part. My assumption is the part she’s leaving out – and we should all be well aware that posts like hers are always leaving something out – is the part that suggested to DK that she might need exclusion. It’s possible. I don’t like inferring things about people’s lives (I know some are quite eager to do so), but it’s certainly possible.

    Still, we have Ryazan claiming that he lied to them about being totally broke, and rather than banning him for his own good, they refunded his money. And we have the meat of Top10’s complaint, which is that she took responsibility for the losses that were hers, but DK didn’t follow it’s own protocol. That’s a valid complaint in my mind, whatever her personal circumstances are.

    Not that I need to feed into the negative comments and these people who must have perfect lives and do everything exactly how they are told is right and who make assumptions with no facts ….Like the both of you just did. But the night in question my children were sleeping at 830 pm and I go to school three days a week and because I chose to spend my Friday night researching dfs instead of at a bar or doing drugs like most of your girlfriends and what you would consider a good person apparently that is an issue?

    Did I seriously hear that correctly? You second the fact they closed my account because they couldn’t handle being wrong and had to cover it up . You talk like i can’t use the five other sites or use my husband’s name to make a draftkings. Use common sense at least please if you don’t have facts.

    My children are in the 90th percentile in everything , have MORE then they need and we have a wonderful home life. Amazing you would question my bed time , I mean do you have that little to go off of and is your life truly this bad? I would love to help you improve it if so.

    Nevee done a drug , do not drink , am in great health and shape, went to college and still do , plus I am married and stable. How many of you can say half of that? To pick on the time I went to bed is this real ? I’m lucky enough to have a husband who actually helps with our kids and doesn’t put work before his family and blessed with having enough money to not stress over it. As hard as I’ve worked and as sick as i was Thursday night to where I slept most of Friday …Staying up till Saturday morning and taking a 4 hour nap that morning while my husband took the kids to the fair is uttlerly disgusting I know.

    My gosh can you please give me lessons on how to lead a proper life? Show me the way sir.

    I asked for exclusion ? What’s this part I’m leaving out since you people have all the answers. I’d love to prove you small minded , judgmental and non fact having individuals wrong. Everything that’s been “assumed “ about me so far. Is dead wrong. You want the emails from dk , there’s 16 of them , where do I post them. Would love to make you look very foolish the few of you who bleed the blood of lambs , darn sure not Sheppard’s you just follow the flock and nod your head when told what to do by the man.

  • Zieg30

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @Top10only said...

    I won and lost 15 grand in a week’s time. I’m pretty sure I can handle it. I’m pretty sure changing diapers and handling an ADHD child with the utmost patience is a little harder then a game “sweetie”. Things like this are exactly the issue. People immediately think a person is weak or unworthy because of words typed on a screen, gender, or skin color.

    And your so called craziness in the industry if you weren’t so blind and allowed to be led like sheep is simply supply and demand and money and who has the most. I never stayed I was upset about money or that was the case or that dfs was my income. I have a degree and am saving up for grad school while raising a family so trust me hun, I’m just fine.

    If this is true, then you’re likely not “fine.”

    If you’re saving up for grad school and raising a family, and you do not have a very high paying job, then you cannot likely reasonably afford to lose 15 grand in a week’s time, even if it’s recently-won money. It sounds like DK possibly did you and your family a favour with the banning.

    Based on what you’ve said thus far, I would recommend taking off from DFS, and not playing FD, for awhile. When you have one big win, and tons of losing days, you are not suffering from bad luck or variance, you are simply not good at this. Again, if you have a high paying job and very little other responsibility, you should do whatever you want with your money, but that does not seem to be the case here.

  • lionssuck

    This thread can be a soap opera. I just want to know who is going to play Ryazan.

    That is who I picture

  • Lathum

    WTF gives any of you a right to criticize the way someone leads their life, pretty sure none of you are perfect.

  • kb32dawgs

    @Top10only said...

    Nevee done a drug , do not drink , am in great health and shape, went to college and still do , plus I am married and stable. How many of you can say half of that? To pick on the time I went to bed is this real ? I’m lucky enough to have a husband who actually helps with our kids and doesn’t put work before his family and blessed with having enough money to not stress over it. As hard as I’ve worked and as sick as i was Thursday night to where I slept most of Friday …Staying up till Saturday morning and taking a 4 hour nap that morning while my husband took the kids to the fair is uttlerly disgusting I know.

    Ma’am, not a single one of us care about your personal life. This is a DFS site, not an Ellen DeGeneres show. If you truly won 15k in a week and didn’t take any profits out, then you are absolutely horrible at bankroll management and shouldn’t be playing to begin with. If you’re a stay at home mom, then you are wasting your husbands money to begin with.

  • Zieg30

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @Lathum said...

    WTF gives any of you a right to criticize the way someone leads their life, pretty sure none of you are perfect.

    You’re right, to an extent. I qualified my post to make it clear my opinion is based solely on what she’s actually said, and not on what I was inferring from what she said.

    Generally, though, she’s the one who posted on a public forum and talked about her DFS’ing, and how capable at DFS she is, so she opened the conversation up to her DFS-life.

  • tomac

    @Zieg30 said...

    You’re right, to an extent. I qualified my post to make it clear my opinion is based solely on what she’s actually said, and not on what I was inferring from what she said.

    Generally, though, she’s the one who posted on a public forum and talked about her DFS’ing, and how capable at DFS she is, so she opened the conversation up to her DFS-life.

    She asked for it in other words?

  • gaelicgirl

    @tomac said...

    She asked for it in other words?

    She really did. I’ve never seen so much oversharing on a DFS thread.

  • Zieg30

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @tomac said...

    She asked for it in other words?

    We’re discussing DFS on a public DFS forum, not sexual assault, so the loaded words were unnecessary.

    And, in sum, “yes.”

  • sonic999

    My buddy, who is not even ranked top 1000 and bets probably 50$ a nite , got money from FD after complaining about a late, after lock NBA scratch earlier this year. I thought it was a waste of time to even ask and was frankly shocked when they credited him all his losses from that nite and even a little extra. Tbh, I woulda given him nothing but for whatever reason they hooked him up even tho he’s a small player.

  • Top10only

    My God what happens in you all’s lives that lead you to be so quick to judge others negatively. Not everyone is a professional sports poster and portrays their thoughts and situations in a way that makes you want to agree with them or even like them. For darn sure not everyone lives the way you think they should as well.

    Being 24 and having never been arrested , being void of drugs and addiction and having a college degree among other things that are viewed as “proper” surely doesn’t make me better then anyone else either.

    ….Pushing that point further , not everyone is out to get someone or get something for free. And if you simply cannot agree with me and think draftkings practices are truly ethical then you simply can say that and not make personal attacks to someone you don’t even know but to be frank I don’t think half of you males would have the guts to even speak to me in person and surely not say the things you said here. You can take that how you will just like you have many other things I’ve said.

    Looks aren’t everything but it’s amazing how in over a computer a human might say one thing and when in person completely do a 180 and struggle to even get out a word. .

    Amazing how one can get a picture of how they think a person is by a few paragraphs mashed on a smartphone keyboard. You’d think a person knew you since birth and was your doctor based on their assumptions from a few paragraphs.

    I have NEVER played out of my means and NEVER asked for anything for free and surely not begged. Being a attractive woman I could have anything I want with tight jeans and no words.. it’s reality . But I have class and was raised with dignity and respect for myself. My situation was turned into whatever you all decided in your head you wanted it to be. Instead of seeking facts before making assumptions you jumped to conclusions. This is why people lose at life and dfs…Thinking because I don’t spend my whole salary and believe in cheaper guys that I must be lying is an assumption. Reality is price dictates little and even the cloudiest diamonds sparkle. Assuming the most expensive pitcher is the best or that you must spend all of your salary is the reason most never win the big ones.

    Look at me the stupid girl who stays up till 8am and is such a horrible person. Had never even heard of a woba till the start of this season and within 2 months of playing came in 2nd and 6th out of 6k enteries with a total of 3 , 33$ enteries for s total of 11 thousand dollars.

    But this stupid girl didn’t “need” the money and does everything to prove I can be good at it and prove that anything can be figured out. I could easily make a living doing dfs baseball just based on public perception , it’s flabbergasting how people understand so little about numbers and things like predicting how the public and 90% of players perceive things and can’t help but always play the favorites. Same with all gambling horses even.

    I could honestly sit here all day and play this childish game of who can say meaner things and show the other person up all day. But I have a life and quite enjoy the time I have. I came to the wrong place as I see the original poster who was made fun of for begging and who you all bashed I should have seen what I was dealing with and read before hand.

    It’s no sweat off my tits. Whether I play draftkings tonight or tomorrow or never won’t change the way I smile and what people who assume things about a person they don’t personally know say surely won’t move the meter either.

    I’d love to meet some of you though if any live in Florida , winter park area. Always looking for good people . Seems like I found a few. Go Tribe .

  • jakz101

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    • $1M Prize Winner

    • x5

      2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    This thread is incredible. I’m 100% going to start using players from Ohio in conjunction with advanced stats. I’m always looking for an edge.

  • Top10only

    @Zieg30 said...

    If this is true, then you’re likely not “fine.”

    If you’re saving up for grad school and raising a family, and you do not have a very high paying job, then you cannot likely reasonably afford to lose 15 grand in a week’s time, even if it’s recently-won money. It sounds like DK possibly did you and your family a favour with the banning.

    Based on what you’ve said thus far, I would recommend taking off from DFS, and not playing FD, for awhile. When you have one big win, and tons of losing days, you are not suffering from bad luck or variance, you are simply not good at this. Again, if you have a high paying job and very little other responsibility, you should do whatever you want with your money, but that does not seem to be the case here.

    For God sakes do you hear yourself , do you have facts to back anything up or even common sense. My Grad school totals 322,645 and some change for four years. And while we are very well off , we take pride in not racking up debt and using credit or loans. My husband is a Lawyer at a well established firm and we are LUCKY enough to be afforded the life we have. I read about people on here that play and cry about quarters at night …Quarter contests and the more i read it seems I’m the only one who was playing inside her means .

    Americans live in debt and believe they “own” things they have.. sorry the bank does. And in the 6 months I played draftkings I actually ended with 2466$ in profit. So I’m not quite sure what you are getting at? I played 4$ and 33$ contests besides a handful.

    I started in April when baseball began and within three months won 11000 and 2500 on two seperate nights. Playing small buy ins and never using my full salary cap. Darn sure never coming on here crying about a player I picked not performing …Come on you will say this about me and yet most likely are a small time player who struggles to make it and have your own issues to resolve before questioning another’s with little facts ?

    I’ve never played fan duel so not sure how I could quit something I don’t do as well. Seems players go years without ever making the tops of these big contests and these are MEN big strong men who are so good at sports. Big men who try to make a lady look bad because themselves struggle at the sport and wonder why a woman can do it and they cant…That’s what it is isn’t it.

    I do things to prove I can..I can have anything in life I want and its not white privilege or being a attractive woman. If you have drive and the ability to think outside the box then money is an afterthought. If it’s your main goal you will fail Everytime..Like I said come meet me and my family and see what kind of person I am , you would wish whomever you are dating had half of the wherewithall I do..I don’t allow myself to be used or pushed around..

    Bottom line I felt the draft gambling site whatever you call it was pushing me around and I speak up for myself. Take it how you want it I don’t mind. Reality is the weak never make it and the strong survive.

  • lionssuck

    @jakz101 said...

    This thread is incredible. I’m 100% going to start using players from Ohio in conjunction with advanced stats. I’m always looking for an edge.

    & JEB!

  • kb32dawgs

  • Zieg30

    • 2018 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    @Top10only said...

    For God sakes do you hear yourself , do you have facts to back anything up or even common sense. My Grad school totals 322,645 and some change for four years. And while we are very well off , we take pride in not racking up debt and using credit or loans. My husband is a Lawyer at a well established firm and we are LUCKY enough to be afforded the life we have. I read about people on here that play and cry about quarters at night …Quarter contests and the more i read it seems I’m the only one who was playing inside her means .

    Americans live in debt and believe they “own” things they have.. sorry the bank does. And in the 6 months I played draftkings I actually ended with 2466$ in profit. So I’m not quite sure what you are getting at? I played 4$ and 33$ contests besides a handful.

    I started in April when baseball began and within three months won 11000 and 2500 on two seperate nights. Playing small buy ins and never using my full salary cap. Darn sure never coming on here crying about a player I picked not performing …Come on you will say this about me and yet most likely are a small time player who struggles to make it and have your own issues to resolve before questioning another’s with little facts ?

    I’ve never played fan duel so not sure how I could quit something I don’t do as well. Seems players go years without ever making the tops of these big contests and these are MEN big strong men who are so good at sports. Big men who try to make a lady look bad because themselves struggle at the sport and wonder why a woman can do it and they cant…That’s what it is isn’t it.

    I provided my opinion based on the facts you have provided over the last 24 hours. I don’t know you, but I do know the sum total of (1) raising kids and pregnant, and (2) saving for grad school, combined with (3) winning and losing $15,000 in a WEEK for a non-pro, reasonably sets off a lot of red flags.

    And I suggested laying off Fanduel because in one of your earlier posts you suggested that you were considering trying Fanduel in the next few weeks.

    In any event, it’s your life, and I’m glad to hear that you’re well off with a lawyer bringing in the big bucks.

    There is no need to assume anything about my playing style. My accounts are linked to my profile. I, too, am a lawyer at a “well established firm” and I certainly do do not play DFS for income, but instead merely for fun.

    One last thing – You’re setting up a straw man with your argument about men v. women. People are coming down on you because of what you’re saying, not because you’re a woman (look at the various criticism of a man who created the thread you posted in) or out of any misplaced jealousy. Being a “big strong man” has very little to do with DFS success in any event.

  • reztes757

    2013 DD BLB Finalist (x2)

    • 191

      RG Overall Ranking

    Have you tried looking at this from draftkings perspective? They show your lineup scoring 111. You didn’t edit it before they messed up the slate, not that it would have mattered if you did. So your evidence for your first place lineup(which is also crazy to assume you get first) is a piece of scrap paper with hearts and doodles on it. Would you have emailed them if your lineup scored 50 points and asked them to remove the funds from your account because you would have lost? I don’t think so, so yea you are asking for a free handout because you had the best lineup ever, except the only proof of it existing is on a piece of paper.

    So back to the original question, how did you expect dk to handle this situation?

    P.S. No one cares you are a female you can probably stop trying to drive home that point in every post.

  • gaelicgirl

    @Top10only said...

    Seems players go years without ever making the tops of these big contests and these are MEN big strong men who are so good at sports. Big men who try to make a lady look bad because themselves struggle at the sport and wonder why a woman can do it and they cant…That’s what it is isn’t it.

    A few tips for you, because you seem completely lacking in self-awareness:
    When you have to tell people how well educated you are, while posting illiterate ramblings, you lose.
    When you have to brag about how attractive you are, while pretending to be equal with the “males” here, you lose.
    When you have to tell people you have class, then say something like “it’s no sweat off my tits,” you lose.
    Everything you’ve posted makes you sound like either a whining SJW or a fake feminist who’s not above using her looks to get what she wants.
    You seem very confused. I pity your poor husband and children.

  • Ross
  • Top10only

    @lionssuck said...

    & JEB!

    It’s pretty funny I know. What’s more funny is I just realized I let folks who aren’t worth my time make me start being fairly petty in having to explain myself, when in fact my life and what I do is none of your businesses. I’m happy for what I have and love when I learn I’m as good at or better at somehting then people who had been doing that same thing for years. Typing run on sentences and having to explain myself to people who most likely wouldn’t even approach me in person and who’s own mother’s wouldn’t claim is not going to prove anything to any of us. It’s the same old being jealous or just expecting every person with a negative connotation to be wrong and either want somehting for free or simply scorned. But it’s clear I didn’t want anything …Emails show that, I wanted the situation explained properly and not to be lied to. Once they lied to me it became a matter of integrity. Their answer was a 4$ ticket and then a 100$ bonus to sweep it under the rug.. think I wasn’t aware they would cancel my account ? I could smell Jordan Bloom from VIP’s ego from a mile away. He couldnt handle being unable to explain himself and combat my questions. The reason he gave for cancelling it was that much more funny and the fact you all sit here and laugh or talk poorly about me I hope one of you actually needs the money when it happens to you and they make a new rule Up as their terms say they can and poof your whole life savings is gone as from reading it seems some of you play with. Remember someone stood up against them and draftkings hired goons to chase them away. Good luck all though i have a massage in 15 min I’d rather a phone call if someone wants to chat about baseball or how to be a good parent….

  • 1greatbuyz

    • x3

      2014 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

  • Top10only

    @gaelicgirl said...

    A few tips for you, because you seem completely lacking in self-awareness:
    When you have to tell people how well educated you are, while posting illiterate ramblings, you lose.
    When you have to brag about how attractive you are, while pretending to be equal with the “males” here, you lose.
    When you have to tell people you have class, then say something like “it’s no sweat off my tits,” you lose.
    Everything you’ve posted makes you sound like either a whining SJW or a fake feminist who’s not above using her looks to get what she wants.
    You seem very confused. I pity your poor husband and children.

    Looking at that picture in your profile…It makes sense how angry and scorned you are. It’s not your fault, repeat it in first person over and over whenever it’s late and night and you are alone with your 9 cats and quarter entries into the one thing in life you have which brings you a smile big enough to show all of those brown teeth.

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