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  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Hi everyone — NBA Late Swap has been a passionate topic of discussion within the DFS player community over the past few years.

    Because the status of injured and inactive players in the NBA is often unknown until minutes before tip-off, our users have shared a strong desire to swap players out of a lineup(s), so long as the listed start time of player’s game has not passed.

    We also recognize there are pros/cons with enabling late swap versus no late swap feature. On one hand, offering late swap could help a user avoid a “zero” scoring player on their lineup(s). On the other hand, no late swap feature, allows a user to set their lineups without the need for last minute lineup adjustments after breaking news.

    Therefore, throughout each sport season we survey active players about their playing experience and request product feedback. From 2015-2017, NBA user survey results indicated our users were split ~50%/50% when asked if DraftKings should offer late swap.

    During the 2017-2018 we saw a slight shift in sentiment, now strongly in favor of bringing back NBA Late Swap: – The return of NBA Late Swap was the #1 contest enhancement request. – 75% of players surveyed said they would be either “very interested” or “somewhat interested” in the return of Late Swap.

    Given the increase in customer demand for this feature, our main offering for NBA will offer the Late Swap feature on Classic and Tiers game formats for the 2018-2019 season. Late Swap is not necessary for Showdown Captain Mode game formats.

    As the game and community demand evolves, so does DraftKings. The NBA contest managers will be looking at Late Swap utilization and entry trends at the start of the season, and may adjust as the needs and demands of our players evolve.

    Steven & Christie, DraftKings Community Team

  • elementasrat

    So will this go into effect during the preseason?

  • basam80

  • gaelicgirl

    THANK YOU!!!

  • hcassidy

    Slight? should of been overwhelming response. I hated and drop my entries to very little since implemented.

  • IronMonkey415

    Tears of joy and dripping out non-stop right now

  • cordscords

  • TheRealJosh5

    Well I guess I’ll be returning to the NBA dark side now. Thank you DK.

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    Hopefully your utilization and trends will eventually lead you to allowing only being able to swap for a player that has been ruled out after lock and not multiple changes. In addition hopefully it will lead to not being able to make any swaps unless a player is ruled out. While many are excited for late swap I don’t think they understand how detrimental this is to the casual player.

  • noddy

    I’m about to go all in on NBA now

  • Trappist1

    @Cooper08 said...

    Hopefully your utilization and trends will eventually lead you to allowing only being able to swap for a player that has been ruled out after lock and not multiple changes. In addition hopefully it will lead to not being able to make any swaps unless a player is ruled out. While many are excited for late swap I don’t think they understand how detrimental this is to the casual player.

    Yes, detrimental for the casual player who are not paying attention to team news to the last second. But it becomes very hard for DK to justify having no late swap for NBA while having late swap for Soccer, NHL, NFL and MLB. Out of all the sports NBA is the most amateurish when it comes to team news and last season played the minimal as a result. Why risk any money in NBA with no late swap ? Good DK go the message at last.

  • bsize30

    • 920

      RG Overall Ranking

    Having a player in your lineup get 0 sucks but at least thats an even playing field, professionals being able to re-optimize their entire lineups around breaking news absolutely crushes the already small chance casual players have to win. It’s surprising so few seem to realize this.

  • KingzLanding813

    Great great great news!

  • damionismyname

    @Cooper08 said...

    Hopefully your utilization and trends will eventually lead you to allowing only being able to swap for a player that has been ruled out after lock and not multiple changes. In addition hopefully it will lead to not being able to make any swaps unless a player is ruled out. While many are excited for late swap I don’t think they understand how detrimental this is to the casual player.

    how is it detrimental? don’t play if you cant pay attention or just play express and late slates which they have more than enough of. Nobody wants to waste money on late scratches or players not showing up to the game. Summer league had games locking at 12pm with games starting at 8p where you didn’t even know who was playing. Not to mention the 2 game playoff slates that locked and you had to gamble on what players were even playing the next night. Why would I waste my money on that? There is no real rationale for not having it. The “set it, forget it” excuse is lame and just an excuse to be lazy and hope you can win money.

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    @Trappist1 said...

    Yes, detrimental for the casual player who are not paying attention to team news to the last second.

    That is only a very small portion of why it is detrimental to the casual player. The majority only use late swap for the player ruled out. The top DFS players use late swap every night regardless of players being ruled out. The top players optimize there lineups with games starting at 8, 830, 9, 930, 10 and 1030. They change there lineups multiple times nightly based off there teams performance providing them with the best opportunities to score well based off the optimizer they use.

    Edit…nothing against the top DFS players, they are just following what the rules allow..

  • damionismyname

    @bsize30 said...

    Having a player in your lineup get 0 sucks but at least thats an even playing field, professionals being able to re-optimize their entire lineups around breaking news absolutely crushes the already small chance casual players have to win. It’s surprising so few seem to realize this.

    its not an even field when the pros have max entered and have every other possible combo to replace that guy who may or may not play. If I’m playing $10 in entries and the slate locks and someone gets late scratched in the west coast game I would be done without late swap. At least now I know my money isn’t just wasted. Good move on their part and for those who don’t like it, like I said, there are express and late night slates that you can comfortably play and you can always still set it and forget it.

  • damionismyname

    @Cooper08 said...

    That is only a very small portion of why it is detrimental to the casual player. The majority only use late swap for the player ruled out. The top DFS players use late swap every night regardless of players being ruled out. The top players optimize there lineups with games starting at 8, 830, 9, 930, 10 and 1030. They change there lineups multiple times nightly based off there teams performance providing them with the best opportunities to score well based off the optimizer they use.

    Edit…nothing against the top DFS players, they are just following what the rules allow..

    you can do it also.

  • Trappist1

    @Cooper08 said...

    That is only a very small portion of why it is detrimental to the casual player. The majority only use late swap for the player ruled out. The top DFS players use late swap every night regardless of players being ruled out. The top players optimize there lineups with games starting at 8, 830, 9, 930, 10 and 1030. They change there lineups multiple times nightly based off there teams performance providing them with the best opportunities to score well based off the optimizer they use.

    Edit…nothing against the top DFS players, they are just following what the rules allow..

    Of course, that happens in any sport with a late swap feature. Late swap is used for hedging by the advanced players and swapping non-starting players is basic strategy. Just look at the two milly maker winners for the NFL so far, both used late swap to either block others so they do not get caught or pick a sleeper play to make sure of the win.

  • gaelicgirl

    @damionismyname said...

    If I’m playing $10 in entries and the slate locks and someone gets late scratched in the west coast game I would be done without late swap.

    Exactly. No late swap made it a crap shoot to take any players from West coast games at all.

  • Trappist1

    @damionismyname said...

    you can do it also.

    Yes, nothing stops a casual players learning advanced strategies. It is actually one of the best things they can do, DFS has been around long enough and there is a lot of quality information on advanced strategies.

  • thirdeyevest

    • Ranked #96

      RG Tiered Ranking

    • x2

      Blogger of the Month

    IF FD doesn’t offer this all of my NBA action goes to DK

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    @damionismyname said...

    how is it detrimental? don’t play if you cant pay attention or just play express and late slates which they have more than enough of. Nobody wants to waste money on late scratches or players not showing up to the game. Summer league had games locking at 12pm with games starting at 8p where you didn’t even know who was playing. Not to mention the 2 game playoff slates that locked and you had to gamble on what players were even playing the next night. Why would I waste my money on that? There is no real rationale for not having it. The “set it, forget it” excuse is lame and just an excuse to be lazy and hope you can win money.

    Not sure why you are coming at me as if I am not for late swap..if you read my original post I never mentioned late swap was bad or good just that I hope they use there trends and utilization so that it is properly used. You, along with everyone should be hoping that DK moves the way I mentioned. You mentioned that you feel late swap levels the playing field when people play 150 lineups (which by the way I don’t feel provides an advantage) but in reality it increases there edge even more now based on your thoughts as they can now optimize those 150 lineups all night long. As someone said I can do the same, I definitely can, but have no interest as I play single entry and three entry max nightly just to pass the time. I have little skin in nba but I do understand how DFS works and I am just simply trying to explain to the forum why straight up late swap is bad for the casual player.

  • damionismyname

    @Cooper08 said...

    Not sure why you are coming at me as if I am not for late swap..if you read my original post I never mentioned late swap was bad or good just that I hope they use there trends and utilization so that it is properly used. You, along with everyone should be hoping that DK moves the way I mentioned. You mentioned that you feel late swap levels the playing field when people play 150 lineups (which by the way I don’t feel provides an advantage) but in reality it increases there edge even more now based on your thoughts as they can now optimize those 150 lineups all night long. As someone said I can do the same, I definitely can, but have no interest as I play single entry and three entry max nightly just to pass the time. I have little skin in nba but I do understand how DFS works and I am just simply trying to explain to the forum why straight up late swap is bad for the casual player.

    yeah but there are casuals who want to win and will play their $20 like the guy maxing entries. Those guys who are grinding it out and want to win are going to use late swap to their advantage. I just think having it have more positives than negatives imo.

  • Cooper08

    • Blogger of the Month

    @damionismyname said...

    yeah but there are casuals who want to win and will play their $20 like the guy maxing entries. Those guys who are grinding it out and want to win are going to use late swap to their advantage. I just think having it have more positives than negatives imo.

    Perhaps DK community can provide the numbers (doubtful as it wouldn’t be in there best interest) from the last nba season that had late swap. Many will be surprised at how many people didn’t swap and how many swapped but only one player. Those numbers far outweigh the people who swapped multiple players and swapped players that were not ruled out.

  • JustDFSin

    @damionismyname said...

    how is it detrimental? don’t play if you cant pay attention or just play express and late slates which they have more than enough of. Nobody wants to waste money on late scratches or players not showing up to the game. Summer league had games locking at 12pm with games starting at 8p where you didn’t even know who was playing. Not to mention the 2 game playoff slates that locked and you had to gamble on what players were even playing the next night. Why would I waste my money on that? There is no real rationale for not having it. The “set it, forget it” excuse is lame and just an excuse to be lazy and hope you can win money.

    The casual player has the same opportunity to optimize his lineup throughout the night just like the pros do. If you don’t want to put in the effort then don’t,but don’t get mad at the players who do. I agree with you 100%

  • dolphinkick182

    • Ranked #44

      RG Tiered Ranking

    Oh man you’re making me want to move everything over to DK…..

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