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  • bhdevault

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    Just starting this thread as the old thread is sort of off topic. We are past that first drop now and these are pretty exciting.

    Now if I could just get something under 15,000 place in line to get one!

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @rvnfn77 said...

    Thanks for the response I still feel lost have no clue if #55 means anything. Or if I should hold or sell.

    Numbers are always fun to analyze. I typically look on wikipedia to see if I can find any meaning. That’s how I bought Jeter #2626. Sometimes, it’s just for fun. I bought Hawk #3319 because they’re the last 4 digits of my phone number.

    I think people like symmetrical numbers in general, so 55 would be worth more than 51, 52, etc. Still, at the end of the day, the card is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The guy who got the $12 #1 Brady card sold it for $35K! But the guy who had the $250 #1 signed Hawk card sold it for $3.3K.

    Is it better to hold or to flip? No one really knows. DK could be bankrupt in 5 years, or it could partner with the Asian market and explode.

  • rvnfn77

    @Felixxberg said...

    Numbers are always fun to analyze. I typically look on wikipedia to see if I can find any meaning. That’s how I bought Jeter #2626. Sometimes, it’s just for fun. I bought Hawk #3319 because they’re the last 4 digits of my phone number.

    I think people like symmetrical numbers in general, so 55 would be worth more than 51, 52, etc. Still, at the end of the day, the card is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The guy who got the $12 #1 Brady card sold it for $35K! But the guy who had the $250 #1 signed Hawk card sold it for $3.3K.

    Is it better to hold or to flip? No one really knows. DK could be bankrupt in 5 years, or it could partner with the Asian market and explode.

    Thanks for the response. Very helpful.

  • SleDwreckerZ

    Tiger Woods next drop – September 21st

  • SleDwreckerZ

    Anyone else feel like it was “easier” to snag a T.Hawk on the secondary market (if you aren’t lucky enough to “win” one)? Feel like the bots weren’t there snatching them up. You think DK was able stop/limit that kind of activity? Or, do you think they’re wasn’t much interest in T.Hawk in general?

    I’d like to think (hope) it is the first one – stop/limit bots snagging Mia priced ones immediately in the secondary market. Probably false hope on my part.

  • DraftKings_CM

    • DraftKings Representative

    Is it better to hold or to flip? No one really knows. DK could be bankrupt in 5 years

    We can’t say if it is better to flip or hold; that’s a personal decision. With that said, perhaps you should look at what some of your DFS super-active peers have done by buying and holding for the future. We don’t know if they are right or wrong, but it is interesting.

    On a related note, the Marketplace has been an outstanding introductory tool for NFT fans that are joining DK just to participate. Many are crossing over to DFS and Sportsbook – a net positive for the ecosystem any time more players join the fun!

    As for bankruptcy, we assume you’re joking. True, there is always a non-zero chance of an outlier occurring, but to put things in perspective $DKNG’s market cap is listed at 24.37B today.

    Feel like the bots weren’t there snatching them up. You think DK was able stop/limit that kind of activity?

    Here are some little nuggets of information for the community to chew on:

    1) Someone in this thread who has made accusations of others botting in the Secondary Market, coincidentally was accused of being a bot!

    2) We looked at the account of the person who was accused of being a bot in this thread, and it matched their description of jamming on the refresh button often to find good deals on NFTs that they were monitoring in the secondary market.

    Moral of this story: Jamming on the refresh button can look a lot like a bot to people sitting in your positions at home. It may be a clue, but it is not definitive proof of nefarious behavior.

    PS: If you see something suspicious, tell us! Your observations help us monitor the ecosystem! Our Marketplace Integrity team is empowered to investigate using the entirety of the data available to us on the back end. With that said, just because something looks suspicious to you does not automatically mean it is an unpermitted behavior. Please turn over your concerns to gameintegrity@draftkings.com, we will be happy to review using all the tools available to us as provided by the marketplace Terms of Use.

    - DraftKings Community Team

  • jki7p6

    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    Tiger Woods next drop – September 21st

    Carbon & Platinum only?

  • SleDwreckerZ

    @jki7p6 said...

    Carbon & Platinum only?

    Doubt it. Probably the full (what we have seen).

    When I first posted “Woods next week”, there was only Carbon in the DROPS section. I see they have also added Platinum now. Emerald, Sapphire, and Ruby will probably be listed soon.

    We shall see

  • SleDwreckerZ

    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    Doubt it. Probably the full (what we have seen).

    When I first posted “Woods next week”, there was only Carbon in the DROPS section. I see they have also added Platinum now. Emerald, Sapphire, and Ruby will probably be listed soon.

    We shall see

    I believe I stand corrected…

    They now have next weeks schedule up. It says Tuesday is Carbon & Platinum Premier and Thursday is Carbon & Platinum Signature.

    I guess they’re switching it up. Why? Are they dragging out T.Woods over 2+ weeks? Or are they just going to offer Carbon and Platinum for Woods and move on to a different athlete?

    Thoughts?

  • ponzicrash

    There will be bots in the market until you have a bid/ask. It’s not complicated.

    Even if there aren’t bots why wouldn’t you protect sellers to some extent by having bids.

    Why have a market where someone can sell something worth thousands for $1.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    I believe I stand corrected…

    They now have next weeks schedule up. It says Tuesday is Carbon & Platinum Premier and Thursday is Carbon & Platinum Signature.

    I guess they’re switching it up. Why? Are they dragging out T.Woods over 2+ weeks? Or are they just going to offer Carbon and Platinum for Woods and move on to a different athlete?

    Thoughts?

    Maybe they’re trying something new to stimulate the market. The fact that there are 10 drops every week makes every card less rare/valuable in my opinion. Limiting to 4 could help! Or maybe it’s just an error.

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    I like having a DK rep who answered instead of giving us a generic message!

    I feel targeted, as I did complain about bots and I also do refresh constantly after every drop. I never successfully bought a mispriced card though. Getting lucky once is something, but twice or more is just near impossible. I’m definitely jealous of guys like kempseys or IcedCoffee, who snag all mispriced cards and resell them for profit a minute later, but I feel cheated when I see they’re all bought by the same people.

    As for bankruptcy, anything can happen. We all remember the FullTilt scandal! Still, I’m pretty sure DK is as safe as can be. It’s a huge company with very legit partnerships.

  • osuryanf

    I am excited for the Woods drop! Going to be super competitive so hard to get one but hey, worth a shot.

    I also appreciate the DK REP responding on here. Transparency is great. There’s going to be kinks that need ironed out, that’s typical for something new. Heck, look at TopShot, they’ve been in business over a year and are still in Beta mode

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    2/3 drops per day instead of 5. No idea if it will work better, but we’ll see soon enough!

  • tgowen

    • Blogger of the Month

    I could be wrong, but I think Woods is the last of the “Preseason” drops. Curious to see what happens after that and what impact it has on the overall value of the current NFT’s.

  • realphipps

    Me pulling a number lower than 9000 this week (+375)

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @realphipps said...

    Me pulling a number lower than 9000 this week (+375)

    Last week, I didn’t get one unsigned card. Then, during the signed drops, my numbers were 2605, 812, 3980, 3912 and 418. Literally 5/5 would have won the $12 drop, but none was good enough to win a signed card!

  • Felixxberg

    • 2019 DraftKings FGWC Finalist

    • 2019 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    @tgowen said...

    I could be wrong, but I think Woods is the last of the “Preseason” drops. Curious to see what happens after that and what impact it has on the overall value of the current NFT’s.

    I currently have at least one card of every athlete because of that.

  • emnj69

    I was jaded as I got a low number in the que on jeter ruby under 100 but sadly there were not that many lol

  • emnj69

    @tgowen said...

    I could be wrong, but I think Woods is the last of the “Preseason” drops. Curious to see what happens after that and what impact it has on the overall value of the current NFT’s.

    if they have more drops of the same athlete I think the prices tanks-like if there are more brady and jeter drops in the future

  • tgowen

    • Blogger of the Month

    @emnj69 said...

    if they have more drops of the same athlete I think the prices tanks-like if there are more brady and jeter drops in the future

    And that is what worries me because I think I read somewhere (probably on the Discord) that the next round will be the same athletes just a “First Edition” or something like that.

    If that’s the case, the value for all of these is dead.

  • osuryanf

    @tgowen said...

    And that is what worries me because I think I read somewhere (probably on the Discord) that the next round will be the same athletes just a “First Edition” or something like that.

    If that’s the case, the value for all of these is dead.

    The first drops they have will never be dead unless the market completely crashes across the board.

    Look at TopShot. Look at the value of the first ones they dropped. The first NFT drops of any kind typically hold/gain value long term.

    Them not having drops for a few months will actually do wonders for the marketplace.

  • emnj69

    @tgowen said...

    And that is what worries me because I think I read somewhere (probably on the Discord) that the next round will be the same athletes just a “First Edition” or something like that.

    If that’s the case, the value for all of these is dead.

    man if that is the case that is scary and a terrible idea-pretty much in my opinion would kill this thing-the rake is bad as it is but -increasing supply is the fasted way to send the value to zero on them all-it would be like Satoshi Nakamoto saying I created a new way to release lots more bitcoins -it would be a bloodbath

  • emnj69

    @osuryanf said...

    The first drops they have will never be dead unless the market completely crashes across the board.

    Look at TopShot. Look at the value of the first ones they dropped. The first NFT drops of any kind typically hold/gain value long term.

    Them not having drops for a few months will actually do wonders for the marketplace.

    I believe the market would crash across the board if they do second drops of the same folks anytime soon

    there are so many athletes out there past and present just do deals with them and let the market expand -I mean who would not want a mahomes, a othani etc…

    there are have been what 6 athletes -brady wayne and jeter-all good-the other 3 niche at best -can you see people lining up to buy more biles etc… over and over again.

  • tristanwolf

    trying for a tiger today for my first time. what has been the pattern on best time to flip? immediately? an hour later? a day later?

  • hautalak

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    @tristanwolf said...

    trying for a tiger today for my first time. what has been the pattern on best time to flip? immediately? an hour later? a day later?

    I would say it all depends. Release today is different as it’s usually been 4 price ranges a day and today is 2.

    My guess would be the sooner this time around. Regardless anytime in the next day or 2 should be great. I’d guess this one holds 2nd highest value behind Brady. Should be good money flipping anyway you slice it this time.

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