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  • bhdevault

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    Just starting this thread as the old thread is sort of off topic. We are past that first drop now and these are pretty exciting.

    Now if I could just get something under 15,000 place in line to get one!

  • Felixxberg

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    @jonup said...

    The Key drop made things interesting. The floor on the Key shot up to $750 at one point. There aren’t that many for sale with people holding to complete their set, so a few people can manipulate the market pretty easily.

    I can’t believe how dumb I was. There aren’t enough keys for everyone, which means that most traps/schematics have 0 value. Buying a lot of keys was the way to go, and then buy everything else at half price. That whole thing was kind of a fiasco. People (like me) didn’t even bother doing the drops at one point since you could buy them for cheaper minutes later.

    I got key #7/1000 but I think I priced it a little too high. I’d like to sell it to buy 3 or 4 others with bad serial numbers.

  • Felixxberg

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    I thought the Slam thing was a bust but holy hell the Saw one…

    Even keys now selling for $700… They’ll be worth $0 Monday morning!

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    I thought the Slam thing was a bust but holy hell the Saw one…

    Even keys now selling for $700… They’ll be worth $0 Monday morning!

    They will hold some value as they announced that Halloween is just the beginning of the Key’s power and will be required for future drops as well. That was the only drop I went for out of Saw as I knew those would be worth a ton with 3400 potential sets and only 1000 keys with an announcement keys will also have future unlocking power. Of course I drew stop 1829 and never had a chance. That drop was probably the most vaulable ever done on DK if you factor in the odds to win and immediate return you could get. I still think only like 3000 joined that drop so a 33% chance to pick up $300-500 is pretty solid.

  • Felixxberg

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    @bigez952 said...

    They will hold some value as they announced that Halloween is just the beginning of the Key’s power and will be required for future drops as well. That was the only drop I went for out of Saw as I knew those would be worth a ton with 3400 potential sets and only 1000 keys with an announcement keys will also have future unlocking power. Of course I drew stop 1829 and never had a chance. That drop was probably the most vaulable ever done on DK if you factor in the odds to win and immediate return you could get. I still think only like 3000 joined that drop so a 33% chance to pick up $300-500 is pretty solid.

    Where did you see that the key would be needed for future drops?

    As for the Saw drops in general, I wish I saw that. It’s so logical after the fact, and one of my colleagues even mentioned it to me, but I guess I was too blind to see it. He only participated to the key drop and won one. Every other Saw NFT took a deep hit as no one cares about those if they don’t have a key. It’s a major flop, and people won’t get fooled again. I didn’t think they would drop that much. One shouldn’t be penalized by winning a drop, but it is what it is.

    We’re two days before deadline and all Saw NFTs are selling for less than 50% of their drop price. After October 31st, they might honestly fall to $0.

    I’m mad at myself for not seeing how obvious it was that everything would be worthless without a key and that there were only 1000. I hope I can sell my key and just break even at this point.

  • emnj69

    they took what could have been a great thing and ruined it ten times over
    -allowing bots to control the market was a big red flag
    -the non sports things are stupid
    -the key things are stupid
    business model should be-limited access nfts to athletes that is it and no re drops of the same athletes when there are tons of athletes they could partner with
    I would never buy another thing and everyone that I know that initially had great interest has none now

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    Where did you see that the key would be needed for future drops?

    On the discord under general announcements it states the following “Keys will also have future utility. Halloween is just the beginning.”

    These keys could easily end up going for $1000+ and I am pissed I didn’t grab the $350 floor right after the drop seeing the price just continue to go up. However at the time I projected them to be worth $500 to $600 and the $350 to $400 buy was worth the risk to make under $100 after the 15% fee. Wrong move on my part I guess.

  • bigez952

    @emnj69 said...

    they took what could have been a great thing and ruined it ten times over
    -allowing bots to control the market was a big red flag
    -the non sports things are stupid
    -the key things are stupid
    business model should be-limited access nfts to athletes that is it and no re drops of the same athletes when there are tons of athletes they could partner with
    I would never buy another thing and everyone that I know that initially had great interest has none now

    I still hold 6 NFT’s and I am worried about how these LE drops are going to go. Dillon is dead set that all of these things are super valuable and made the comment on the last call I caught that now way Wayne Gretzky’s mystery boxes cost less than $80 but he doesn’t except them to cost more than $150. He also guaranteed every pre season pass can buy the max allowed and if any changes get made to the pass amounts it will only go up not down as some sig holders have complained about not getting more. So if they drop another 20,000 Gretzky NFT’s out there at $130 each on top of the 15,700 already out there I can’t see them all being worth over $100 when over 70% now sell for less than that.

    I think they are way overpricing these LE drops to make it be like an 80% chance you lose money and if you hit the lottery you may get 10X max. Not sure that is worth the $100-$200 gamble as I could care less about NFT’s and only look at the angles of how it can make me money.

  • Felixxberg

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    @bigez952 said...

    On the discord under general announcements it states the following “Keys will also have future utility. Halloween is just the beginning.”

    These keys could easily end up going for $1000+ and I am pissed I didn’t grab the $350 floor right after the drop seeing the price just continue to go up. However at the time I projected them to be worth $500 to $600 and the $350 to $400 buy was worth the risk to make under $100 after the 15% fee. Wrong move on my part I guess.

    #4 sold for $1004
    #6 sold for $1006
    #3 sold for $1200

    I put my #7 on sale for $1177. I just hope someone bites as I’m kind of pissed off about that whole Saw NFT thing and I just want to get my money back at this point (which I would by selling it at that price).

    I refreshed a lot to get all 5 combinations at a low-ish price, only to see them all lose 50% of their value in a few minutes (after the key drop). I thought it would be nice to have 5 Jigsaw’s Workshop, but now I’m thinking they’ll be worth less than the key itself, so I have 0 interest.

    At this point, I don’t trust DK at all. After seeing how they dealt with cheaters/bots (they didn’t), how they didn’t improve anything so far, how they’re trying to lure us with something that makes no sense (mystery boxes) after making us wait for weeks without telling us what preseason access meant, and finally how they’re trying to boost the key prices by saying something vague about them having value in the future, I’m not interested in buying anything more at this point.

  • Felixxberg

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    @bigez952 said...

    I still hold 6 NFT’s

    I have 26… Not a lot compared to the sharks, but still!

    Haven’t sold any at a loss so far. Sold maybe 10-15 at break even or win.

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    I have 26… Not a lot compared to the sharks, but still!

    Haven’t sold any at a loss so far. Sold maybe 10-15 at break even or win.

    4 of my 6 are Tiger Woods which I actually want to go to try the LE drop out for and I would be happy to just breakeven on my Hawk and Bolt passes at some point. I am up money overall by getting that #17 Bolt at the floor and flipping it 24 hours later for $125. I also hit the drops on Tiger Carbon, Platinum and Emerald so I am in good shape there.

    So I am in line for 5 Woods mystery boxes and if they price them at the planned $200 per box that means I would have to invest $1000 and I am having a really hard time seeing that I could ever justify that as I would think the lower tiers never will be worth that.

    The Sapphire and Ruby tiers will be selling for $1000+ as if you complete a set in that tier you get a free signed NFT so people will pay through the nose to complete those sets. At least I think Woods is a ways away so I will get to stand on the sidelines for a few of these LE drops to see how they shake out before having to make my decision.

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    I put my #7 on sale for $1177. I just hope someone bites as I’m kind of pissed off about that whole Saw NFT thing and I just want to get my money back at this point (which I would by selling it at that price).

    Lol right now in Discord they are talking about key #7 being an insane deal so maybe it will go soon.

  • yisman

    the key was the last one? I didn’t even do that one as it was 7 PM and I forgot. Figures. I bought all the crappy ones.

    I listed all my NFTs for sale now. Hate DK and the way they’ve screwed this whole thing up.

  • bigez952

    @yisman said...

    the key was the last one? I didn’t even do that one as it was 7 PM and I forgot. Figures. I bought all the crappy ones.

    I listed all my NFTs for sale now. Hate DK and the way they’ve screwed this whole thing up.

    Yep the Key was the last one at 7 pm east coast time and the only one worth while in the whole Saw drop. The 6pm drop was the first one to not even sell out so everyone in the queue got the chance to buy and it took almost an hour before they were all sold out. It was pretty dumb as people were posting on the marketplace by that time at $45 and people were still buying the drop for $60 at the same time.

  • Felixxberg

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    @bigez952 said...

    Lol right now in Discord they are talking about key #7 being an insane deal so maybe it will go soon.

    I finally hit the Discord! Pumped up my card to $1777, too. $1177 didn’t make sense anymore with the floor being $1K.

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    I finally hit the Discord! Pumped up my card to $1777, too. $1177 didn’t make sense anymore with the floor being $1K.

    Discord is the place to be if you want to be early on the pumps as it is pretty crazy how successfully they were able to pump the Slam Soul on Ice and now the Key. It is also nice as a couple times a week Dillon the CEO of autograph jumps on the discord stage and answers questions or leaks info early of what to come. Last time he talked he did leak that Simone Biles was the next athlete up after Wayne Gretzky 11/9.

    Tom Brady even made a discord appearance a couple weeks ago during Dillon’s broadcast which was a lot of fun in how he was able to turn the mood from negative and people pissed about the LE drops being delayed into everyone being excited again.

  • Felixxberg

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    @Felixxberg said...

    I finally hit the Discord! Pumped up my card to $1777, too. $1177 didn’t make sense anymore with the floor being $1K.

    Discord made me excited about NFTs once again!

  • SleDwreckerZ

    I’m assuming (hoping), because I see none listed for sale, that no one has received “Jigsaws Workshop”. I know I have satisfied the “set” requirement. I believe I have satisfied the other requirements (couple other “linking” requirements).

    Anyone remember seeing when they actually award (give) the jigsaw NFT? (I know 11:59pm on Oct. 31st was the deadline to complete the set.)

    Just hoping I didn’t miss a requirement and will now miss out on the “set” NFT.

  • bigez952

    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    I’m assuming (hoping), because I see none listed for sale, that no one has received “Jigsaws Workshop”. I know I have satisfied the “set” requirement. I believe I have satisfied the other requirements (couple other “linking” requirements).

    Anyone remember seeing when they actually award (give) the jigsaw NFT? (I know 11:59pm on Oct. 31st was the deadline to complete the set.)

    Just hoping I didn’t miss a requirement and will now miss out on the “set” NFT.

    After the initial deadline they had a secondary deadline of 48 hours later to get your wallet properly linked so they could mint and send out the NFT’s. They did say some would start showing up as early as last night before the shit storm that occurred with the metadata on all of the current preseason passes but the whole Autograph team into crisis control. Hopefully after a night of sleep people will be calmer today and they can start getting workshops out. As of last night think I saw they were down to like 7-10 users that were still needing to link a wallet otherwise things seemed to be going well not that part.

    I would guess you will get it by the end of the week for sure.

    They also did say the ones who don’t have wallets linked correctly they would be reaching out directly to so if you have been contacted you should be good to go.

  • bigez952

    @Felixxberg said...

    Discord made me excited about NFTs once again!

    Discord is a wild place with everyone pumped one day only to blow itself up like it did last night lol. Tom Brady is joining the Discord on Wednesday which will be fun and hopefully go well.

  • Felixxberg

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    @bigez952 said...

    Discord is a wild place with everyone pumped one day only to blow itself up like it did last night lol. Tom Brady is joining the Discord on Wednesday which will be fun and hopefully go well.

    Yep thanks for telling me. There’s a lot of valuable info in there with Autograph people making announcements.

    I have 3 sets. My plan is to flip one early, flip one short-middle term and keep one for years.

  • SleDwreckerZ

    Anyone listen in to the TB interview (or whatever it was) in Discord the other day? I joined at the start, but left pretty quick (I’m on vacation and first few questions were: “What was the hardest sack you ever took”, “What is your favorite smoothie”, etc. – didn’t have time for that).

    I’m assuming some very positive things (in regard to NFTs and maybe the market in general) were discussed because I see most NFT floors have raised (at least the ones I am keeping an eye on). Anyone have any specifics from the interview?

    Also, the DK rep made an appearance yesterday with a long response to the new rewards system (in another thread – “DK community, what would you like to know”). However, s/he failed to mention anything regarding the previous NFT questions. I brought the bot/scripting question up again, and I was happy to see another user asked pretty much the same question I did right after I posted mine. Maybe we will get a response. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

  • SleDwreckerZ

    Side note…
    I happened to go to autograph.io this morning. I see that I have Jigsaws Workshop #921/1000 there. However, it does not show in my portfolio on DK Marketplace. Is this how this particular NFT works?- you own it, but can’t sell it on the Marketplace.

  • Felixxberg

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    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    Side note…
    I happened to go to autograph.io this morning. I see that I have Jigsaws Workshop #921/1000 there. However, it does not show in my portfolio on DK Marketplace. Is this how this particular NFT works?- you own it, but can’t sell it on the Marketplace.

    You can see it on Autograph, and you can see it and sell it on OpenSea, but not on DK. I think 9 have sold so far.

  • bigez952

    @SleDwreckerZ said...

    I’m assuming some very positive things (in regard to NFTs and maybe the market in general) were discussed because I see most NFT floors have raised (at least the ones I am keeping an eye on). Anyone have any specifics from the interview?

    The Tom Brady interview was prescreened cupcake questions like the ones you heard and nothing really about the Autograph NFT’s. The floors made a big move up yesterday form the afternoon news and the release of the collector score similar to Top Shot to appease the whales who were starting to express concerns of where things were going. Brady did bring a fairly large jump in new Autograph users yesterday as well which also could be part of the floors rising.

  • osuryanf

    For any of you fellow NFT degens, I’m selling my Tiger #1230 (Birthday) Platinum and #1997 (Masters) Platinum both for pretty cheap. They’re listed on Marketplace. I don’t see them lasting there long so wanted to let the fellow RCF’ers know first.

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