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  • Redskins4

    Can someone explain how the reigning MVP and best player in baseball, Bryce Harper is priced at $4500 and Denard Span is $4600 and Mookie Betts is $4700 and Hunter Pence is $5000?? Seems a little bit stupid (not to use an offensive word) to me. Does DraftKings have competent people on pricing? They had all offseason to work on this.

  • deactivated84892

    I think the answer is pretty easy, bud.

    Ballpark Factors.

    Harper is in Turner. Very pitcher friendly park with the 2nd lowest HR rating.

    Denard Span and Hunter Pence are on a top Vegas projected offense in Miller, A top hitters park.

    Mookie Betts is in Progressive Field, A field that has the 2nd highest runs rating according to ESPN.

    So yes, I would say that DraftKings has very competent people on pricing.

    Park Factor Rating Source: http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/year/2015

  • walkoff9

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    @gundacker said...

    I think the answer is pretty easy, bud.

    Ballpark Factors.

    Harper is in Turner. Very pitcher friendly park with the 2nd lowest HR rating.

    Denard Span and Hunter Pence are on a top Vegas projected offense in Miller, A top hitters park.

    Mookie Betts is in Progressive Field, A field that has the 2nd highest runs rating according to ESPN.

    So yes, I would say that DraftKings has very competent people on pricing.

    Park Factor Rating Source: http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/year/2015

    All of that is true, but they have never priced players like this before.

  • Redskins4

    Park factors can not explain that pricing, Bryce is most talented player in baseball. There is no way he should ever be priced under $5000.

    His season last year was better then any season Mike Trout has had, it was one of the best seasons ever. And Bryce is going to be 50% + owned because of this stupid pricing.

  • barro

    Your park factor idea can explain it but it doesn’t mean it’s correct. Do you really think the marginal difference between ballparks is enough to make those players better than Harper?

  • AWoo

    You guys, smh. It factors in “probable/likely opposing starter” for opening day as well imo.

  • walkoff9

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    @AWoo said...

    You guys, smh. It factors in “probable/likely opposing starter” for opening day as well imo.

    Unless Julio tehran became clayton kershaw over the off season, still makes no sense.

  • deejones49

    Dont hate on Hunter Pence

  • AWoo

    @walkoff9 said...

    Unless Julio tehran became clayton kershaw over the off season, still makes no sense.

    Teheran is surprisingly better in one aspect (you may want to look at his stats from last season/spring training). There is one HUGE discrepancy.

  • deactivated84892

    In a DFS sport where stacking wins… I would hardly call the difference between Turner and Miller a “marginal” difference.

    If you think Bryce Harper is gonna be high owned due to his price, Imagine the train of Giants stacks you would be up against had that team been priced between 3-4k.

  • KillaChap

    @Redskins4 said...

    Park factors can not explain that pricing, Bryce is most talented player in baseball. There is no way he should ever be priced under $5000.

    His season last year was better then any season Mike Trout has had, it was one of the best seasons ever. And Bryce is going to be 50% + owned because of this stupid pricing.

    Someone is a DC sports homer……

  • maxeernst

    @Redskins4 said...

    And Bryce is going to be 50% + owned because of this stupid pricing.

    If you’re a tournament player, this is probably a good thing.

    Bad pricing —-> high ownership ——> opportunity. Game theory wise.

  • rdogg63

    I’m guessing it has something to do with getting in the fish. Park factors and Julio Teheran does not make Harper a $4,500 player.

  • cAUmberlandtiger8

    @maxeernst said...

    If you’re a tournament player, this is probably a good thing.

    Bad pricing —-> high ownership ——> opportunity. Game theory wise.

    this times 100.

  • Redskins4

    @KillaChap said...

    Someone is a DC sports homer……

    He got every first place MVP vote last season…………

    Undoubtedly the most talented player in the game.

  • meerkatmreow

    @Redskins4 said...

    He got every first place MVP vote last season…………

    You mean like trout did in 2014?

  • KillaChap

    @Redskins4 said...

    He got every first place MVP vote last season…………

    Undoubtedly the most talented player in the game.

    RGIII was rookie of the year in what, 2012? I am sure you think he’s the greatest QB of all time. And that Chris Cooley should be in the HOF. And that Ovi is the best team hockey player of all time who elevates those around him to win multiple Stanley Cups. And that Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Sean Taylor. etc. etc. etc. Harper is a stud, no doubt, but slow down a bit before he ends up like Strasburg.

  • Brian_msbc

    Agree, ballpark factors and Opposing pitcher matters… but DK obviously has some Teheran fans on their pricing staff. Harper should have no problem starting 2016 off with a bang.

    However… with all the aces going, and not really any great cheap options at SP, its going to be really difficult to afford the star hitters.

    I expect Scherzer to be near 90% owned.

    Actually, Bumgarner and David Price are equally good plays… it might be pretty well spread out among those three.

  • Redskins4

    @meerkatmreow said...

    You mean like trout did in 2014?

    Bryce Harpers 2015 was better then any season Mike Trout has ever had. You can look it up.

    And he is a year and a half younger than Trout.

  • yort05

    Very apparent they have a new pricing algorithm, could be a good thing, could be a bad thing, only time will tell.

    On another note, its absurd DK doesn’t have a full all day slate for Opening Day…

  • DCoop328

    @AWoo said...

    Teheran is surprisingly better in one aspect (you may want to look at his stats from last season/spring training). There is one HUGE discrepancy.

    On board with this. Teheran is much better than advertised. I could see him moving into the elite range this year.

  • meerkatmreow

    @Redskins4 said...

    Bryce Harpers 2015 was better then any season Mike Trout has ever had. You can look it up.

    That’s debatable depending on your metric. If you go by WAR, 2012 and 2013 Trout both beat 2015 Harper. If you’re talking offense only (which is reasonable in the context of dfs), then sure 2015 Harper gets an edge, but the margin certainly isn’t “far and away the most talented player in baseball”, it’s “arguably the most talented player in baseball”

  • sethayates

    @meerkatmreow said...

    That’s debatable depending on your metric. If you go by WAR, 2012 and 2013 Trout both beat 2015 Harper. If you’re talking offense only (which is reasonable in the context of dfs), then sure 2015 Harper gets an edge, but the margin certainly isn’t “far and away the most talented player in baseball”, it’s “arguably the most talented player in baseball”

    Only one of them has ever been choked out by Papelbon for not running out a popup though.

  • myb821

    @sethyates is that a positive or a negative?

  • KillaChap

    In my opinion, Harper loses a point for not doing what every non-Redsox fan has wanted to do for years; justifiably punching Paplebon in the face.

  • TPSC

    I’m not sure if the OP’s post was a complaint about DFS or just a meatheaded DC sports guy hot-take on how his favorite don’t get no damn respect.

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