NFL FORUM

Comments

  • colinwdrew

    • 301

      RG Overall Ranking

    • 2020 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • 2021 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    So DK tweeted out millionaire maker ownership here http://playbook.draftkings.com/nfl/millionaire-maker-percent-owned-week-3/ which as of 230pm still includes ownership data for games that have not yet started. IMO this is a big leak and should never happen. It also seems like something that your average analyst should probably not have access too, and able to tell his buddies who is owned and who the best players have. Hey did you know that CSURAM has Randall Cobb going late? Given that they can access the macro results it seems probable they can access specific users during and/or before contests start.

    They definitely should no be sharing it publicly, if they’re going to do it just list the full rosters in the contest and call it a day.

    • Link
    • Last Updated 3 years ago
  • Vicksburg

    Lol I was waiting for that. Let pay thousands of dollars for a committee of our staff and investigate ourselves..Yup nothing to see here. :)

  • swh10e

    Can we get this tread shutdown? 100+ pages is ridiculous.

  • mchin1027

    @louiescards said...

    I feel like people are working under a couple of assumptions right now that by all accounts are false.

    1) Ethan has the ability to query the database himself.
    2) Ethan was sent this information prior to lock and used it to “cheat”

    Draftkings has said that #2 is incorrect and that is up to you if you don’t believe them. I would suggest you pull your money from the site if you honestly don’t trust that statement. As for #1 at no point in any discussion has it been said that Ethan accessed or pulled this data himself. These are two fundamental errors in the logic behind a lot of these post in this thread.

    I urge you to instead insist that FD and DK make us aware of the following

    1) Who does have access and in what capacity (beyond ownership percentages).
    2) What policies were in place to verify the data was protected.
    3) What if any changes will be implemented.

    He probably should have taken some more time before making his only post in this thread

    “As Cal mentioned – this was published in error originally by myself. I’ve fixed the error and we’ll be putting checks in place to make sure it doesn’t happen again. As Cal mentioned, I was the only person with this data and as a DK employee, am not allowed to play on site. 100% my fault and I apologize for any issues.”

    Only person

  • jakeupjohnson

    @sack said...

    So if this guy just won $350k, plus he was cleaning up in MLB, etc. then why keep the day job if you are so good and can keep winning? Why keep the day job? Why…keep….the….day….job….? Hmmmm…. Why?

    Exactly

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @phillygamecox said...

    exactly what I mentioned like 30 pages ago. If you stack as many teams as possible in baseball, maybe 1-2 lineups will hit or crack the top 20 or 5%. Heck, maybe one of you lineups takes the whole thing down. I said maybe he had 2 lineups that were in the top 5%, but 198 lineups that crashed and burned. I took down a $3 moonshot in August and I had like only 3 of my 70 lineups cash. luckily one of them was enough to win it. So, just goes back that if you enter tons of lineups with tons of possibilities – there is a high likelihood that you will break into the top 5% on any given night.

    yea, it’s a strategy to win money – more people should try it instead of complaining about those who use it successfully lol

  • w3junky

    Bomoni Jones (sp) talking about this next on his ESPN radio show.

  • Capone1233

    Kill late roster swap, and don’t show ownership percentages at all until after Monday’s game. Fixed. They can block out the percentages data access on the servers to all admin’s i guarantee it.

  • JimmyTango

    @srolleDFS said...

    i dont think anyone watching CNBC or reading the new york times cares about your number 1 or your number 2.

    they care about whether someone cheated. did someone get rich by cheating.

    thats the story. t

    he rest is important to us, but basically meaningless to the rest of the world.

    You completely sidestepped the issue. Do you agree with my assertions or not, @srolleDFS? If not, please explain. I would genuinely welcome a rebuttal. There is no reason why we can’t have a frank, reasonable discussion of the facts.

  • louiescards

    DK KoTH winner

    @y2mulder said...

    Gonna go work on solving global warming. Seems like an easier project.

    I understand this site trying their best to protect the DFS industry, but “When there is smoke, there is fire” works 20 fold here.

    If everyone in this thread emailed them requesting that information it would be 100x more valuable than posting in this thread.

    But hey this is more fun right?

  • IronMonkey415

    Conan O’Brien and Andy better make a skit about DFS. Only they can lighten up the mode around here.

  • lpk8787

    • 2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Around the horn guys are calling for a congressional hearing and regulation…lets see if congress thinks this sort of inside information matters

  • srolleDFS

    @JimmyTango said...

    You completely sidestepped the issue. Do you agree with my assertions or not, @srolleDFS? If not, please explain. I would genuinely welcome a rebuttal. There is no reason why we can’t have a frank, reasonable discussion of the facts.

    ive addressed those in previous posts on this thread. check pages 30-60. im not going to repeat it all again. turn on the tv. thats the story that matters.

  • Chad32676

    @swh10e said...

    Can we get this tread shutdown? 100+ pages is ridiculous.

    Or dont read it.

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    no one got rich over cheating. You can’t “cheat” in DFS because the players you pick still have to go off and kill it for you. If i copied Maxdalury’s lineup this past weekend in my Fanduel double ups, i dont think i would even cash cuz last i checked, he was out of the money. I cashed with my own lineups though.

    SOOOOOOOO many people care about what OTHERS are doing. Care about YOURSELF, and you will win.

    DK has confirmed no inside information was traded. Now stop talking about it and worry about making a good lineup. The things some of you people worry about amazes me – WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF, and you will make money with this. Worry about others, and you will turn into someone who b*tches too much

  • lpk8787

    • 2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @swh10e said...

    Can we get this tread shutdown? 100+ pages is ridiculous.

    Shut down your browser. Problem solved

  • texasfiter

    Greed will ALWAYS kill the hen who laid the golden egg. I am a very small player but getting tired of stories about cheating, bots, multiple lineups, etc. With the massive rake these sites are taking they have plenty of money to handle these issues and be more transparent.

  • y2mulder

    @louiescards said...

    If everyone in this thread emailed them requesting that information it would be 100x more valuable than posting in this thread.

    But hey this is more fun right?

    There has been an avalanche of bad publicity today from every channel. They know what they need to do, and 10 extra E-mails wont solve a thing. They have now had many, MANY days to address this and done next to nothing.

    Why would I waste 10 seconds of my life for a canned response 32 hours from now.

    I still commend your effort. Wish it would do any good here though.

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    I can assure everyone, that no one is winning your money for any reason other than you not picking good teams. I seriously promise that.

    I picked a really really bad team last THursday for MLB and i lost 10K. I am not blaming this on anyone having ownership % or cheating, i blame it on myself for being terrible that one day. Learn to own up to your decisions. The players YOU choose has ALL of the effect on the outcome of how much you lose or win.

  • realdeals

    @Agent47 said...

    Ryazan, I’m not sure if you’re just trolling at this point or if you’re really that oblivious to why some people would have issue with some of the apparent data integrity and access issues that are at the heart of this matter…

    At this point, it’s hard for me to take seriously anyone who reduces this whole thread to “losing players” looking for an excuse to blame for them not winning. Players who are ranked much higher and have been more successful than me have spoken up and articulated what the concerns are. It’s amazing that some people just want to keep sticking their head in the sand and pretend that everything is fine and this isn’t a big deal. I’m not saying DFS is going away but that I think some procedural changes may be on the horizon, whether willingly on the part of the Big 2 or unwillingly.

    He’s not trolling. Look at the previous posts he’s made under his profile. It would shock you.

  • mellofellowsu

    @lpk8787 said...

    Around the horn guys are calling for a congressional hearing and regulation…lets see if congress thinks this sort of inside information matters

    We should all be calling for it if we want it to stick around.

  • MikeMineo

    Ryazan, there’s a big difference between having an inside edge with data as opposed to having a magical lineup that automatically wins; no one’s saying he had the latter, nor are they saying that ownership data is ALL one needs to win a big GPP. but that doesn’t take away from the point that having ANY semblance of this data provides an edge not available to the public, especially in MLB. if this option is available, then it’s just the tip of the iceberg in what types of data that can be obtained by FD/DK employees.

    it would make sense to care about yourself only if you were playing against yourself, but considering that you’re up against tens of thousands each night, what THEY’RE doing is important as well. “care about yourself and you will win” sounds like a cheesy line off one of those get-rich-quick ’90s infomercials. it’s not that simple.

    Volkswagen also said they didn’t cheat on their emissions test before a third-party discovered otherwise. now they’re being fined billions. can’t say I trust internal investigations, and anyone relatively aware of these types of occurrences in the news shouldn’t either.

    why are some attempting to QUANTIFY an edge? an inside edge is an inside edge. there shouldn’t be a barometer for when it’s “bad enough” to THEN get started with criticism.

  • JimmyTango

    @srolleDFS said...

    ive addressed those in previous posts on this thread.

    No you haven’t. I read all your previous posts. Do you disagree that 1) employees at DK had access to privileged ownership info, and 2) they could have, if they wanted to, used it to their advantage on other DFS sites? If so, please explain.

  • Ryazan

    • x3

      2015 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    @texasfiter said...

    Greed will ALWAYS kill the hen who laid the golden egg. I am a very small player but getting tired of stories about cheating, bots, multiple lineups, etc. With the massive rake these sites are taking they have plenty of money to handle these issues and be more transparent.

    they are stories without proof. That is why people hate the media.

  • winsome

    @Ryazan said...

    I seriously promise that.

    Do you work for DK?

  • rainbowtroutman

    @pmsimkins said...

    This is a ridiculous non-issue.

    I am just a casual player,but I noticed that everyone that says what you just did,is very highly ranked. I guess its just the fear of the gravy train being over or very different in the future. No offense intended,just an observation I made. Everyone saying this is no big deal has high rankings.

  • X Unread Thread
  • X Thread with New Replies*
  • *Jumps to your first unread reply

Subforum Index

RotoGrinders.com is the home of the daily fantasy sports community. Our content, rankings, member blogs, promotions and forum discussion all cater to the players that like to create a new fantasy team every day of the week.

If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL). Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER (NJ/WV/PA/MI), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (CO), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-888-532-3500 (VA) or call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN).