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  • colinwdrew

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    • 2020 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • 2021 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    So DK tweeted out millionaire maker ownership here http://playbook.draftkings.com/nfl/millionaire-maker-percent-owned-week-3/ which as of 230pm still includes ownership data for games that have not yet started. IMO this is a big leak and should never happen. It also seems like something that your average analyst should probably not have access too, and able to tell his buddies who is owned and who the best players have. Hey did you know that CSURAM has Randall Cobb going late? Given that they can access the macro results it seems probable they can access specific users during and/or before contests start.

    They definitely should no be sharing it publicly, if they’re going to do it just list the full rosters in the contest and call it a day.

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  • duxaosm

    but why male models?

  • Runantelope

    @frob2424 said...

    How do they know who works where and that they know every username of a person who works at the other company? Just an honest question. No ill will.

    you would have to ask fanduel how they knew it was draftkings employees who won that 10 million. They provided the data and if anything it is an underestimation because they cant be aware of every DK employee playing.

  • Njcop2001

    FD & DK joint statement : “Who are you going to believe, us or your lying eyes ?”

  • Myballzachertz

    Have some of you slept since this thread started? Serious question.

  • Myballzachertz

    FWIW all of the DK MLB contests are filling without a hitch will be no overlay.

  • nam6641

    • x2

      2016 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    The problem with people saying it is hard to correlate DK data into FD wins do you think it is hard to correlate DK data into telling your friend with a DK account who to play and having them gain a significant competitive advantage?

    Some people spend 40 hours a week researching and building their lineups and if proper controls are not in place then DK employees can potentially get the benefit of all that hard work someone else put in. This guy made $350k in one contest and he’s going to go to work the next day to make a couple hundred bucks if that for an 8 hour work day instead of dedicating his time to becoming a DFS pro? Maybe, but it sure raises eyebrows.

    The whole thing stinks. Any one who has access to this information should not be allowed to play DFS anywhere and should sign an iron clad confidentiality agreement where it is treated as a jail-able offense to breach it. You can still hire talented people, you just don’t give those people who play DFS a job that has access to the data, the temptation will get the best of some of them, its human nature.

  • frob2424

    @rsigler65 said...

    This I strongly agree with – the industry is killing itself with the image it’s throwing out there. All the Vegas, PB Mansion non-sense. The tacky ads all over the place now. People are super turned off by all that BS (including myself).

    All I hear from people who know I play on these sites before today is, “I cannot effing stand their commercials! I wouldn’t play on their sites because I’m so sick of seeing this. I wish they would just go away!” I get emails from friends ripping into me for playing on these sites. They are having a field day with this. They have no clue what is going but just keep saying it is rigged and a sham and the people running these sites are shysters. Not good.

  • Priptonite

    • Blogger of the Month

    @Runantelope said...

    10 million in winning can not be explained away. Statistically impossible.

    Quite obviously $10million grossed, not net.

  • Unico10

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    @shark61350 said...

    Really impressed with rayofhope.

    RESPECT!

  • punisherjck

    Cal, you can’t just keep saying “according to DraftKings” anymore. They have had plenty of time to do more than just say what they allege to be true. It isn’t hard to verify who has access to what and the procedures for how to access various data should also be documented. I am not saying to release that information to the public, but an independent auditor could easily verify that.

  • rainbowtroutman

    @Cal said...

    According to DraftKings, Ethan had to submit a request to get the player ownership report for his article and could not access anything sensitive on his own.

    With all due respect Cal,I feel a little funny with the “according to Draftkings” part. I mean what are they going to say. There credibility is not the best right now

  • dude_abides7

    @y2mulder said...

    Update: Draftkings has pulled all advertising from ESPN, at least for today.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2015/10/06/draftkings-pulls-advertising-espn-amid-questions-inside-trading/73476434/

    Might as well save a few bucks while you can.

    Look people…..we all don’t know the true facts. But I will tell you this. Several media agencies have came down more firmly on one side of this issue faster than it took for them to support that the US needed to go into Iraq.

    Could they be wrong? Yes.

    Could there actually be more to this story that their investigative wing knows that we don’t? Yes.

    As @y2mulder states above, ESPN pulling ads is a big deal. Adrian Peterson had to beat his kid with a tree branch before sponsored bailed.

  • pharoah1

    I would rather play for lower stakes, than have to deal with 200+ entries, scripts, and algorithms. I’m starting to get a very bad feeling about dfs, especially seeing how DK and FD handled the scripting issue. I’m just a casual, new player, but I can assure you I am not alone in considering pulling my money out and going back to just watching football.

  • grandpabuzz

    @hpharri1994 said...

    Good stuff here:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/i-won-millions-in-daily-fantasyand-even-i-want-changes-1444171886

    “Accordingly, Ray and I have opted out of playing daily fantasy contests that are below a $25 entry fee and with five or fewer participants on DraftKings and FanDuel.”

    That is false.

  • MikeMineo

    @punisherjck said...

    Cal, you can’t just keep saying “according to DraftKings” anymore. They have had plenty of time to do more than just say what they allege to be true. It isn’t hard to verify who has access to what and the procedures for how to access various data should also be documented

    Exactly.

    I have no clue why this is going over so many seemingly intelligent people’s heads.

  • JoakimNoah4Life

    @rainbowtroutman said...

    With all due respect Cal,I feel a little funny with the “according to Draftkings” part. I mean what are they going to say. There credibility is not the best right now

    Agree

    come on cal…

  • ckamins87

    • 2016 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • 2016 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @grandpabuzz said...

    “Accordingly, Ray and I have opted out of playing daily fantasy contests that are below a $25 entry fee and with five or fewer participants on DraftKings and FanDuel.”

    That is false.

    To be fair, they could mean going forward.

  • jmo26

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Look people…..we all don’t know the true facts. But I will tell you this. Several media agencies have came down more firmly on one side of this issue faster than it took for them to support that the US needed to go into Iraq.

    Could they be wrong? Yes.

    Could there actually be more to this story that their investigative wing knows that we don’t? Yes.

    As @y2mulder states above, ESPN pulling ads is a big deal. Adrian Peterson had to beat his kid with a tree branch before sponsored bailed.

  • dude_abides7

    @mellofellowsu said...

    The public is emotional. They care now, they won’t care next week.

    Congress will care and they will care next week.

  • mellofellowsu

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Congress will care and they will care next week.

    I guess we’ll see. Let’s meet back up in a week and see if the congressional hearings have kicked off by then.

  • bluestooges

    He did ask for the info to wright an article with his employer knowing he played on Fanduel. It has come to light this could be a bad idea so the stopped it. Its not up to him to enforce the Draftkings rules. They knew he looked at this info, he wasn’t hiding it. The optics don’t look good that is all so they have changed it. People are all crunching numbers from every side. One side is saying “there is no way he could win so much is such a short time” the other side “ is completely possible here is example a,b,c ect) “ ……. There is noo way to prove that someone cheated so let the beast die. They will make sure that no one can in the future which is all anyone should really care about.

  • emac

    @grandpabuzz said...

    “Accordingly, Ray and I have opted out of playing daily fantasy contests that are below a $25 entry fee and with five or fewer participants on DraftKings and FanDuel.”

    That is false.

    Depending on the time frame you are referencing. If you look at their recent Twitter feed they are pushing to get other volume gamers to take a similar stance.

    https://twitter.com/fantasysalary

  • devobrain

    @MikeMineo said...

    Exactly.

    I have no clue why this is going over so many seemingly intelligent people’s heads.

    Give it a rest Mike, you’ve made your point. If you feel DK’s response is unsatisfactory and no longer trustworthy with your cash. Withdraw and move on. Stirring the pot and making baseless claims helps no one anymore, especially in this thread. Bring something new to table, please, or…well you know.

  • deez1233

    I wrote a post related to this, but it was so long I posted it as a blog:

    https://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/dfs-scandal-exposes-exploitable-thought-process-of-many-dfs-players-872036

  • dude_abides7

    @Cal said...

    I’m still hoping for an announcement from DK thoroughly detailing the controls they have in place now and what changes that will be made going forward.

    I’ll be here…holding my breath. Please resuscitate me when that memo hits the wire.

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