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  • colinwdrew

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    • 2020 DraftKings FHWC Champion

    • 2018 DraftKings FHWC Finalist

    So DK tweeted out millionaire maker ownership here http://playbook.draftkings.com/nfl/millionaire-maker-percent-owned-week-3/ which as of 230pm still includes ownership data for games that have not yet started. IMO this is a big leak and should never happen. It also seems like something that your average analyst should probably not have access too, and able to tell his buddies who is owned and who the best players have. Hey did you know that CSURAM has Randall Cobb going late? Given that they can access the macro results it seems probable they can access specific users during and/or before contests start.

    They definitely should no be sharing it publicly, if they’re going to do it just list the full rosters in the contest and call it a day.

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  • walterg55

    I once heard a very respected PR Disaster Control Guy say that RULE 1 was to be in front of getting information out and to fail to do so was a Cardinal sin and a leading cause of bad consequences. Miserable Fail by the Sites

  • mellofellowsu

    @MTro86 said...

    That NY Times article seems pretty irresponsible. They’re already condemning in the title and never actually say what the information being used is (unless I misses it upon a quick read).

    Will read the article shortly. However this underscores the importance of self-reporting and taking decisive action on these matters in an expedient manner. That way you control the narrative instead of letting the media do it for you.

  • Wombat

    Can someone clarify if there has been proof that Haskel had the ownership percentages BEFORE lock? I still am kind of confused as to why this is blowing up unless we know that. I just don’t understand how you could even measure ownership rates before the contest is full and locked.

    My understanding of it was that he got the ownership numbers after lock for his article and made a mistake of publishing it before the Monday night games. Is there more to it than that?

  • Putz

    @Putz said...

    Interesting point. I wonder how much CSU won on other sites while working for Starstreet?

    When does Jon Bales get his DK data to write his books? Live or after the season ends?

    These are just two “pro’s” who MAY have access to data in some form or fashion. I’m not implying these folks are “cheating”, but is there any correlation with this type of data and using it to win on other sites? Maybe there is not.

    My stance is that if one person has access, everyone should, and employees should not have access to it until contests are over, then it should be released to the public.

    Just reposting since people are still debating this correlation.

  • smutpeddlers

    @einars said...

    what happened?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/fanduel-draftkings-fantasy-employees-bet-rivals.html?referer=

    In this article the heading makes it look like he cheated by mentioning him later in the article by name……. By having a canned response they hung him out to dry…..

  • petesdynasty

    Draftcheat is KILLING it on twitter.

  • Unico10

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    @SportsFront said...

    “Late Monday, the two companies temporarily banned their employees from playing games or in tournaments at any other site.”

    I think this is telling us that an internal investigation is going on.

    I wouldn’t expect results to come out in hours.

  • einars

    @Putz said...

    Just reposting since people are still debating this correlation.

    fwiw bales has mentioned he gets all the info at the end of the year when it is published on playbook. he doesnt get any nonpublic info

  • dude_abides7

    @SportsFront said...

    Tough to say that when

    “Late Monday, the two companies temporarily banned their employees from playing games or in tournaments at any other site.”

    Not true…

    They just can’t play on DK/FD…this is from later in the article.

    “Both DraftKings and FanDuel had prohibited their employees from playing on their own company sites, but they do not restrict them from playing elsewhere. In fact, representative of both companies, acknowledged that many employees of daily fantasy companies were players first and had continued to compete on other sites.”

  • jmo26

    @dude_abides7 said...

    Man…you just have to be kidding me. Are you seriously just trolling for fun? At this point, I am NOT accusing anyone directly of cheating…..BUT, when the New York Times, a major publishing institution, headlines a piece… “Fantasy Sports Employees Bet at Rival Sites Using Inside Information”….it makes me think there is so much more that will follow.

    The NYT ain’t what it used to be… if there was more information, they would have cited it in their article to substantiate that sensationalist title. After reading their editorial as well, it seems pretty clear where they stand.

    A lot of irresponsible journalism today – not to say this isn’t a huge issue, but aside from LSR, I don’t think anyone is actually reporting on facts.

  • einars

    @smutpeddlers said...

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/fanduel-draftkings-fantasy-employees-bet-rivals.html?referer=

    In this article the heading makes it look like he cheated by mentioning him later in the article by name…….

    they dont mention peter jennings (csuram)in that article.

  • einars

    @jmo26 said...

    The NYT ain’t what it used to be… if there was more information, they would have cited it in their article to substantiate that sensationalist title. After reading their editorial as well, it seems pretty clear where they stand.

    A lot of irresponsible journalism today – not to say this isn’t a huge issue, but aside from LSR, I don’t think anyone is actually reporting on facts.

    yeah that NYT article was surprisingly long considering that lack of any real information. the OP had almost as much information

  • Jfud81

    I look forward to playing for pride and shiny virtual trophies on yahoo again.

    Maybe, if I’m lucky, I can be commissioner of a league and enjoy the hassle of collecting everyones $100 entry fees.

  • nysos10

    @QQSTUKIE said...

    How many now quit because they are making more money playing then grinding a office job?

    Depends on whether insiders will feed them line-up data.

  • jmo26

    @smutpeddlers said...

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/fanduel-draftkings-fantasy-employees-bet-rivals.html?referer=

    In this article the heading makes it look like he cheated by mentioning him later in the article by name……. By having a canned response they hung him out to dry…..

    You know CSU and Ethan are two different people, right?

  • smutpeddlers

    @einars said...

    they dont mention peter jennings (csuram)in that article.

    Ok see that’s where I don’t know who is who. I thought Haskell was CSUrams. Thanks for clearing it up. So who is Haskell? Disregard my ignorance, I was misinformed.

  • Shamrocks10

    @Neiderman said...

    Shamrocks the reason is they are instructed that they can’t comment on this issues because they are sponsored by the DFS sites. Which I agree with that policy!!

    I agree if you are sponsored by DK or FanDuel but not everyone is. It’s basically DraftCheat going off.

  • fantasy144123

    I think we also have the right to demand exactly what “perks” dk pros have, because they certainly share their info/lineups with others as well.

  • rm23stpe

    It doesn’t matter – the damage is done. Ethan is the horse that bolted once the barn door was latched. He has been RAKING the past 2 months, only took him about 10 months but once he got his hands on the info he knew exactly what to do with it.

  • crazypaul

    @lpk8787 said...

    Hopefully the NY Times article among others are enough to ensure a thorough audit this specific information. Mainly, what Ethan had access too on a daily basis and when.

    Pretty soon, the people writing these articles will find out he won 4 contests that contained thousands of people in 37 days. Imagine how they will depict DFS then..

    Bro, WHO CARES ABOUT ETHAN? All of you are so hung up on Ethan. Could he have had access to this information before 1pm? Sure. Did he? Who knows. There is a much bigger issue than 1 guy here.

    What really matters is WHO has had access to this information, HOW long have they had access to this information, & WHEN do they have access to this information.

  • smutpeddlers

    @jmo26 said...

    You know CSU and Ethan are two different people, right?

    Now I do….. I thought they were same person. OK now I don’t feel bad. I’m doing to edit my other posts lol😩

  • dude_abides7

    @jmo26 said...

    The NYT ain’t what it used to be… if there was more information, they would have cited it in their article to substantiate that sensationalist title. After reading their editorial as well, it seems pretty clear where they stand.

    A lot of irresponsible journalism today – not to say this isn’t a huge issue, but aside from LSR, I don’t think anyone is actually reporting on facts.

    Do they wear “tinfoil hats” over there at the New York Times?

  • Stonecoldnuts

    Just a matter of time now……

  • tbird05

    Is there going to be a Week 5?

  • dude_abides7

    @tbird05 said...

    Is there going to be a Week 5?

    Not sure, but I can guarantee you there will be “page 60” on this thread.

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