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  • ldmariodl28

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    Draftkings pitching selection strategy

    What kind of strategy do you guys have when it comes to pitching selection on DK. I know on FD you want that stud pitcher, but when you have to take two guys on DK, do you still go for the stud… and if you do, do you still look for the next reliable guy and just try and get some sub 3k hitters to help get in some other better hitters? Would love some input on this. I am really struggling with this concept.

    Thanks

  • Putz

  • louiescards

    DK KoTH winner

    It really depends on what the slate dictates. A normal 8+ game slate you can pair a stud with a mid tier guy and still get a few of the big bats you want. The pricing seems sharper this year so I have noticed a trend where people are risking pitcher more to fit bats.

  • ldmariodl28

    • Blogger of the Month

    @louiescards said…

    It really depends on what the slate dictates. A normal 8+ game slate you can pair a stud with a mid tier guy and still get a few of the big bats you want. The pricing seems sharper this year so I have noticed a trend where people are risking pitcher more to fit bats.

    What have you seen as more successful, two less risky pitchers with more value at hitter, or the other way.

  • louiescards

    DK KoTH winner

    @ldmariodl28 said…

    What have you seen as more successful, two less risky pitchers with more value at hitter, or the other way.

    Pitchers in general are easier to get right and make up a good chunk of your overall score. In my own personal experience I have had more success with stronger pitching. Would love to hear what others have to say.

  • Putz

    @louiescards said…

    Pitchers in general are easier to get right and make up a good chunk of your overall score. In my own personal experience I have had more success with stronger pitching. Would love to hear what others have to say.

    Agree for cash games.

  • boc4life

    There’s no one strategy that always works or is always best. This week, on Wednesday and Thursday the high-priced pitching had huge games and you needed Kluber/Greinke/Cueto/Kershaw to win. Then on Friday the highest-scoring pitchers were Verlander, Vogelsong, Guthrie, and Roberto Hernandez.

    So based on my calculations, 2/3rds of the time it pays to pay up for pitching and 1/3rd of the time you should go value-hunting

  • ryanms3030

    I’m still pretty much a newb to DFS but my DK baseball strategy involves making a short list of pitchers that I like for that day and fitting two into my line up. My process for picking the short list is usually quick: vegas line, ballpark, match up, game log mainly focusing on last 3-4 starts. I always pay for Kershaw so those days I may have to reach.

    Today my best line up (156 points) was anchored by Porcello and Evoldi. I had Ian Kennedy and Jake deGrom in other line ups so I had a pretty decent day picking pitchers.

  • mistermoneybags

    Due to the differences in site scoring, and given the relative importance on FD of a credited win for your pitcher, if playing there I’m almost always going to pay up for the stud pitcher with the high probability to win. It may make it more challenging to build a balanced roster but those 4 points will often dictate your ability to cash.

    On DK, I don’t need my pitcher(s) to win…I just need some good innings-eaters with fairly decent strikeout rates who won’t give up double-digit hits and a ton of runs. This opens up a much broader pitching pool and offers the ability to roster more potent bats. Will I pay up for a Kershaw on DK? Sure will, but more often than not I’ll look to a couple of mid-tier guys with good matchups or recent performances to give me the roster flexibility elsewhere.

  • ryanms3030

    @ryanms3030 said…

    I’m still pretty much a newb to DFS but my DK baseball strategy involves making a short list of pitchers that I like for that day and fitting two into my line up. My process for picking the short list is usually quick: vegas line, ballpark, match up, game log mainly focusing on last 3-4 starts. I always pay for Kershaw so those days I may have to reach.

    Today my best line up (156 points) was anchored by Porcello and Evoldi. I had Ian Kennedy and Jake deGrom in other line ups so I had a pretty decent day picking pitchers.

    And then today I got a little too cute with it.

    Anibal Sanchez!!! and Marcus Stroman!!!! The two combined average out to 2 decent pitchers but if I could have just got 10-15 points from Stro I would have been money

  • BlakeJ8

    @louiescards said…

    Pitchers in general are easier to get right and make up a good chunk of your overall score. In my own personal experience I have had more success with stronger pitching. Would love to hear what others have to say.

    Welllllllllllllllllllllllllll

    If you’re asking my opinion……………

    :)

  • horby

    @ryanms3030 said…

    And then today I got a little too cute with it.

    Anibal Sanchez!!! and Marcus Stroman!!!! The two combined average out to 2 decent pitchers but if I could have just got 10-15 points from Stro I would have been money

    Stroman bent me over too. Was so sure of that one. Houston has a way of either ruining or making your DFS day. That goes for whether you target their bats or target the pitcher going against them.

    But baseball man is so random with the hitters. I had 3 players yesterday with a goose egg. HanRam, Hunter, Adduci. Adduci was a stretch but it was a punt.

    Anyways my best DKs nights have came from taking the stud and finding the sub 7K pitcher that gets in the 20s. I don’t see that as an option tonight so might try doing Kluber (who at sub 10K is a steal) and an upper mid tier guy and finding a 2K hitter once lineups are posted.

  • BernieKozar

    H2H pay up for elite pitching, GPP’s take risks.

  • KindGuy

    I just take the top two pitchers in terms of ffpg. It usually works. Don’t pay attention to the price. For example Kershaw and Cueto were top two pitchers in ffpg the other day but gio gonzalez was second most expensive and cueto was third. idk what dk was thinking but gio sucked balls and was at 10k+ lol. I took kershaw and cueto….$$$$$$

    Sometimes weird things happen though. Like the other day I went with sale and wainwright. I’m starting to look at other factors now instead of just ffpg.

  • ryanms3030

    @horby said…

    Stroman bent me over too. Was so sure of that one. Houston has a way of either ruining or making your DFS day. That goes for whether you target their bats or target the pitcher going against them.

    But baseball man is so random with the hitters. I had 3 players yesterday with a goose egg. HanRam, Hunter, Adduci. Adduci was a stretch but it was a punt.

    Anyways my best DKs nights have came from taking the stud and finding the sub 7K pitcher that gets in the 20s. I don’t see that as an option tonight so might try doing Kluber (who at sub 10K is a steal) and an upper mid tier guy and finding a 2K hitter once lineups are posted.

    Houston is all boom or bust guys. They all strike out a lot but guys like Carter, Singleton, Springer, Dominguez have the chance to go deep every game. All it takes is a the table setters to get on and a couple of good swings and your day is ruined like yesterday.

    Sucks cause I had basically the same line up in Fanduel yesterday with Anibal Sanchez and placed in money in every game.

    I’m seriously considering not playing DK baseball and sticking with FD because of the 2 pitcher thing

  • SaulGood

    @ryanms3030 said…

    Houston is all boom or bust guys. They all strike out a lot but guys like Carter, Singleton, Springer, Dominguez have the chance to go deep every game. All it takes is a the table setters to get on and a couple of good swings and your day is ruined like yesterday.

    Sucks cause I had basically the same line up in Fanduel yesterday with Anibal Sanchez and placed in money in every game.

    I’m seriously considering not playing DK baseball and sticking with FD because of the 2 pitcher thing

    Until your one pitcher is Stroman, and you wish you had the option to have a second pitcher, to balance out having all your eggs in one pitcher’s basket.

  • ryanms3030

    @SaulGood said…

    Until your one pitcher is Stroman, and you wish you had the option to have a second pitcher, to balance out having all your eggs in one pitcher’s basket.

    I wouldn’t have gone with Stroman as one option. I did have one FD line up with him but that was intended to be a high risk high reward line up.

    But I know what you are saying. Everyone (except Kershaw) has the potential to get blown up eventually. And yes, even Kershaw will probably have a bad game at some point…might be a few years from now but it will happen

  • dehnunterzuber

    Depends on what type of game you’re playing in.

    My normal approach for almost all games is picking one stud SP and one middle-range SP with a favorable matchup. Than do a stack or mini-stack on the offensive side. Worked last night using Colorado.

    The key is do your research. Check out splits, home vs road, etc.

  • blaze1

    Ultimately pricing and matchup dictate your P selection. Really based on slate by slate basis.

    You don’t always have to go for the stud on DK, a couple nice priced guys with will allow you to build a balanced lineup. You’ll need some power bats and might have to spend on 1. IMO lineup balance is really important on DK. If you did want to go studs and scrubs approach, DK is the site to do it as your scrub hitters won’t get negative points for outs.

    I like to stay around 17-18k for both P, I’m shooting for around 40 points. Not necessarily looking for the W, more concerned with high K’s, guys that can pitch deep into a game, and efficiently.

  • tyahn401

    @blaze1 said...

    Ultimately pricing and matchup dictate your P selection. Really based on slate by slate basis.

    You don’t always have to go for the stud on DK, a couple nice priced guys with will allow you to build a balanced lineup. You’ll need some power bats and might have to spend on 1. IMO lineup balance is really important on DK. If you did want to go studs and scrubs approach, DK is the site to do it as your scrub hitters won’t get negative points for outs.

    I like to stay around 17-18k for both P, I’m shooting for around 40 points. Not necessarily looking for the W, more concerned with high K’s, guys that can pitch deep into a game, and efficiently.

    Great Insight.

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