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  • Blahaaron

    That’s as nice as I can say it. It’s rude. It lacks thought. It gives you a lesser chance of winning but when you do win, you tick off everyone behind you or those who find themselves tied with you. And if you believe in karma (I don’t, but some might) that might be something to think about.

    Nothing in the DFS world is worse than getting stuck behind a train. I’m ok with trains where many people have the same lineup as you. Sometimes that happens. But when one person just spams their lineup UGH. ARGH. Kick. Stunner. You have this incredible score, but that doesn’t matter because someone submitted the same lineup unpteenth times. Sweet Chin Music. Rock Bottom. Good for the person who just made a bunch of money, I guess. But that shouldn’t be your motivation in playing DFS. It should be to getting to know your sport better. It should be about the joy in creating lineups. It shouldn’t be ok I’ll make one lineup and spam it many times in this game. I just feel all sorts of anger for these people. Kick. Pedigree. DX crotch chop. I understand where road rage can come from. So I guess we’ll just call this DFS rage. I’ve been told to “make better lineups so you don’t get stuck behind a train.” Well okay I won’t repeat my comeback to that, because there are pre school dfs players around. Please don’t submit the same lineup more than once, if that’s what you do. It’s not cool. Drugs aren’t cool either but marijuana is okay now. Okay, have a good one guys.

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  • sochoice

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    But what about all the trains you beat? Some people treat a 3-20 max entry contest as single entry contest, so those trains are always gong to be there.

  • Trappist1

    Making ‘trains’ is lazy and in the long term can not be a profitable strategy. All it takes is one injury, one bad call etc… to ruin the whole ‘trains’ line-up. If ‘trains’ were the short cut to DFS success we would all be doing it. Let them spam, spray and pray. They will not be around for long.

  • Blahaaron

    I wish they weren’t around long but in the games I play there are these two players who enter the max of the same lineup and only the top 5 ever win and they seem to win at least once a week with their train lineups. This one guy last month had won a couple hundred dollars just doing this. But I agree for most people trains aren’t a success.

  • theIrrigator

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  • DaBum2012

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    I don’t think when they do the train, they’re doing out of laziness-they’re trying to treat it like the state lottery when they do the pick 3, 4, and 5 games. You can wager straight, box, and backup on it. A lot of people opt out of the backup option that they have and will have a straight and box wager on two separate tickets to avoid paying taxes on their winnings. These players doing the train have the same rationale. They want to break up the winnings as small as possible to avoid paying the tax on it when in fact in reality-it doesn’t work like that with DFS. They go by the combined total of how much you win. I had a friend that used to train on DFS using the same logic and he was in for a rude awakening when he got his 1099 form. It was because of him I found out why some people enter several of the same lineups in the same game was for that reason-they were trying to make the winnings $599 or less to be tax free. They all thought wrong.

  • superjon

    @Blahaaron said...

    Good for the person who just made a bunch of money, I guess. But that shouldn’t be your motivation in playing DFS.

    Making a bunch of money is precisely the reason to play DFS. If you are doing it for any other reason I would suggest finding a new hobby.

  • Njsum1

    @superjon said...

    Making a bunch of money is precisely the reason to play DFS. If you are doing it for any other reason I would suggest finding a new hobby.

    Maybe 10% of DFS players are long term profitable. Are you suggesting the other 90% quit, so the best remaining players can trade rake until they eventually go broke, then disappear, and DFS along with it?

    Many people HOPE to win a bunch money, yet they play DFS for a variety of reasons. Many people enjoy the research, the lineup making, having a little skin in the game, having something to follow along with, trying to solve puzzle, etc, etc ad nauseam, and don’t mind if it costs them a few bucks.

    For the vast majority of players, DFS is exactly what you said, a hobby. Something they enjoy doing to pass the time. Are most people making money off their hobbies? In fact, it’s quite the opposite, most people’s hobbies cost them a lot of money. A lot more money then it costs a moderately unprofitable player to play DFS.

    If you revised your statement to read, “making a bunch of money is precisely the reason to play DFS for a living. If you are doing it for any other reason I would suggest finding a new career.” Well then I’d have to agree with you. Yet as it reads, I couldn’t disagree more, as there are numerous reasons other than making a bunch of money, why the hobbyist or casual player, plays and enjoys DFS.

  • superjon

    @Njsum1 said...

    Maybe 10% of DFS players are long term profitable. Are you suggesting the other 90% quit, so the best remaining players can trade rake until they eventually go broke, then disappear, and DFS along with it?

    Many people HOPE to win a bunch money, yet they play DFS for a variety of reasons. Many people enjoy the research, the lineup making, having a little skin in the game, having something to follow along with, trying to solve puzzle, etc, etc ad nauseam, and don’t mind if it costs them a few bucks.

    For the vast majority of players, DFS is exactly what you said, a hobby. Something they enjoy doing to pass the time. Are most people making money off their hobbies? In fact, it’s quite the opposite, most people’s hobbies cost them a lot of money. A lot more money then it costs a moderately unprofitable player to play DFS.

    If you revised your statement to read, “making a bunch of money is precisely the reason to play DFS for a living. If you are doing it for any other reason I would suggest finding a new career.” Well then I’d have to agree with you. Yet as it reads, I couldn’t disagree more, as there are numerous reasons other than making a bunch of money, why the hobbyist or casual player, plays and enjoys DFS.

    Nope, I meant exactly what I said.

    You can enjoy DFS for a variety of reasons, but the main reason and goal should be to make as much money as possible. That’s for the professional or for the unprofitable hobbyist such as myself.

  • Njsum1

    @superjon said...

    Nope, I meant exactly what I said.

    You can enjoy DFS for a variety of reasons, but the main reason and goal should be to make as much money as possible. That’s for the professional or for the unprofitable hobbyist such as myself.

    What prompted me to respond to your post wasn’t the declaration “making a bunch a money of money is precisely the reason to play DFS.” Although I don’t agree, I had no problem with that part of your statement.

    I did take exception to the second part, suggesting people who aren’t trying to make a bunch of money should find a new hobby. Didn’t make sense to me. Why should someone quit something they enjoy for whatever their reason, as many peoples reason for playing DFS isn’t to make a bunch of money. Would you tell someone who enjoys canvas painting as a hobby to quit if they weren’t trying to turn a profit by selling their artwork? There are many other motivators as to why people do what they do other than money.

    Anyway…sorry to derail the thread…trains are annoying, and if you’re finding successful trains in the games you play, maybe play some different games/more single entry stuff, or…wait it out until variance hits those players and their trains become unprofitable and give you the advantage.

  • Trappist1

    @superjon said...

    Making a bunch of money is precisely the reason to play DFS. If you are doing it for any other reason I would suggest finding a new hobby.

    Not really, some people play in leagues with friends as a pastime. Others just play the free games only. Others play for making a bunch of money etc… If the platforms saw properly the diversity of their customers maybe they will be around for long. Remember for all of us to make a bunch of money, a lot of people have to lose a bunch of money. It will dawn on those that run ‘trains’ as a strategy soon enough.

  • anilprao88

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    Personally, I love it when people do this in GPPs. Great for my ROI.

  • thedude404

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    @superjon said...

    Nope, I meant exactly what I said.

    You can enjoy DFS for a variety of reasons, but the main reason and goal should be to make as much money as possible. That’s for the professional or for the unprofitable hobbyist such as myself.

    So you can only see this from your point of view is what you are telling us. Actually I used to think similarly to you. But some people view this as a hobby. Are you going to sit there and say any hobby a person does they have to make money at? Golf, bowling, cooking. These things also cost money, but name me one person that thinks the goal of any of the other three hobbies I listed is to make money.

    I personally wouldnt play DFS for any other reason than to make money, but that doesnt mean just because I view things that way, that’s the way it is for everybody. Some people are actually realistic in the fact that 85% of people lose money at DFS. So it gives them a sweat or a reason to sit down and watch the games on Sunday. And if they win some money, great added benefit. Some people just enjoy the research process, the analytics of it, etc. As weird as this may sound, some people may not even view DFS as a competition.

    So in conclusion, you really dont have the right to tell anybody else what their goals or reasons for doing anything should be….

  • jsteele1020

    I never understood the point of doing a train.

  • Blahaaron

    @superjon said...

    Nope, I meant exactly what I said.

    You can enjoy DFS for a variety of reasons, but the main reason and goal should be to make as much money as possible. That’s for the professional or for the unprofitable hobbyist such as myself.

    If your primary goal is to make a lot of money you’re likely to play the high stakes and lose money a lot quicker, and your way to play is what causes people to lose a lot of money and even bankrupt themselves. Way to take the fun right out of it.

  • DSofM

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    Top 10 worst posts of all time

  • IronMonkey415

    Thr stone cold stunner and rock bottom moves he mention was pretty funny.

  • MrBreeze

    @DSofM said...

    Top 10 worst posts of all time

  • Messiah717

    The problem is you don’t pay to attention to when more often than not the repeated lineups fail.

  • CassBoom

    their money, their choice..

  • Trappist1

    @DSofM said...

    Top 10 worst posts of all time

    Why is that ? The post is tongue in cheek and humorous. It is one of the better posts I have seen.

  • scott33

    @Blahaaron said...

    That’s as nice as I can say it. It’s rude. It lacks thought. It gives you a lesser chance of winning but when you do win, you tick off everyone behind you or those who find themselves tied with you. And if you believe in karma (I don’t, but some might) that might be something to think about.

    Nothing in the DFS world is worse than getting stuck behind a train. I’m ok with trains where many people have the same lineup as you. Sometimes that happens. But when one person just spams their lineup UGH. ARGH. Kick. Stunner. You have this incredible score, but that doesn’t matter because someone submitted the same lineup unpteenth times. Sweet Chin Music. Rock Bottom. Good for the person who just made a bunch of money, I guess. But that shouldn’t be your motivation in playing DFS. It should be to getting to know your sport better. It should be about the joy in creating lineups. It shouldn’t be ok I’ll make one lineup and spam it many times in this game. I just feel all sorts of anger for these people. Kick. Pedigree. DX crotch chop. I understand where road rage can come from. So I guess we’ll just call this DFS rage. I’ve been told to “make better lineups so you don’t get stuck behind a train.” Well okay I won’t repeat my comeback to that, because there are pre school dfs players around. Please don’t submit the same lineup more than once, if that’s what you do. It’s not cool. Drugs aren’t cool either but marijuana is okay now. Okay, have a good one guys.

    *this message has been brought to you by dfs players against spammers, Pam, don’t be a spam.




  • Lee123

    No one cares about being polite, its about winning money

  • Morley

    I get OPs point of view, today in NBA I had one lineup absolutely killing it, but then noticed it was shared with 2 trains, so that took away a lot of the sweat, then I saw another lineup with some later plays on pace to do even better, go check it out and of course that one has a train as well

    looks like there were only so many combinations to build with vonleigh, whiteside and the brow as a core

    but yeah, long term it’s not an ideal strategy, they’d be better suited just playing larger stakes single entry

    i’m also in agreement with trappist, post was obviously tongue in cheek, tough crowd here

  • joephoto

    I like to get in front of a train.
    They don’t scare me.

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