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  • deactivated84892

    ESPN’s Outside the Lines is advertising a piece of the future of DFS.

    Airs today at 1:30pm EST on ESPN.

    Source: https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN

    Thought I’d pass this on as this show has been impactful on DFS this past year. Hope they paint DFS with justice.

    Already not liking a caption on their twitter that says, “Gambling for the future.”

  • kaysizzle

    A congressional subcommittee will examine the daily fantasy sports industry during a Wednesday hearing in Washington, D.C., that could lead to further discussion on the sports betting laws in the United States.

    The House Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade will hold a hearing titled “Daily Fantasy Sports: Issues and Perspectives” at 10:15 a.m. ET, Wednesday at the Rayburn House Office Building. It is an informational hearing that will focus on the legal controversies surrounding daily fantasy sports, the key consumer protection issues and whether federal oversight is needed. A committee source and published statements from witnesses indicate a broader look at the prohibition of traditional sports betting and online gambling laws also will be part of the discussion.

    http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/15498648/congressional-subcommittee-examining-daily-fantasy-sports

  • ElSlappo

    Hopefully there is someone there who actually knows what a GPP is and how it works, among other things

    Edit – I actually read the article now :)

    Looks like FSTA will represent the sites, they would presumably understand how the sites operate

  • mannmicj

    OTL is a tabloid at this point. They will have on the same idiots they always do, who know ZERO about how DFS really works. No need to watch, trying to avoid negativity.

  • theoddsmaker

    hopefully the first 20 minutes isn’t them trying to figure out what a “shark” is and the dfs “expert” they have on doesn’t know either.

  • deactivated84892

    Yeah, I’m not in love with how this story is being advertised already (“Gambling for the future”)

    But I have to watch to know what the impressionable general public will be lead to think after this.

    Highly doubt they have a good representative from the DFS side.

  • theoddsmaker

    “Gambling” has become some evil word when it shouldn’t. This is supposedly a free country, or at least that was the founding principle it started on. Country is turning too much into a “you guys are dip shits so we will tell you how much you can drink, what you can smoke, what you are allowed to gamble on” state. If you have difficulties dealing with it – here, take these anti-depressant pills to cope, they are ok.

  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    @gundacker said...

    Yeah, I’m not in love with how this story is being advertised already (“Gambling for the future”)

    But I have to watch to know what the impressionable general public will be lead to think after this.

    Highly doubt they have a good representative from the DFS side.

    I’m with you. Once upon a time, I’d be excited about this type of exposure for DFS. Unfortunately, it’s become apparent that not all publicity is good publicity. :(

  • tprokopenko

    @theoddsmaker said...

    “Gambling” has become some evil word when it shouldn’t. This is supposedly a free country, or at least that was the founding principle it started on. Country is turning too much into a “you guys are dip shits so we will tell you how much you can drink, what you can smoke, what you are allowed to gamble on” state. If you have difficulties dealing with it – here, take these anti-depressant pills to cope, they are ok.

    Exactly. DFS is gambling, but that doesn’t make it a bad thing, as there is such thing as legalized gambling. I live in Canada, and my provincial government runs a poker site and online bookie. I guess I just don’t understand the obsession with so many state governments to shut down DFS and limit the freedoms of their citizens at every turn.

  • bigloser11

    When the 2015 NFL season started and all the DFS ads ran, the industry got a lot of un- needed attention.Go back some months
    and there was plenty of threads how DFS was on life support and would die soon, some media outlets claimed a quick death.
    Here we are heading into summer and while some states have stopped DFS ( for now)it is still here.
    So basically ESPN and all the talking head experts can say what they want, but it looks like DFS will exist in some form for the
    future.Maybe bigger sites in most states w/ regulation, registry fees etc.jm

  • cAUmberlandtiger8

    @theoddsmaker said...

    “Gambling” has become some evil word when it shouldn’t. This is supposedly a free country, or at least that was the founding principle it started on. Country is turning too much into a “you guys are dip shits so we will tell you how much you can drink, what you can smoke, what you are allowed to gamble on” state. If you have difficulties dealing with it – here, take these anti-depressant pills to cope, they are ok.

    Spot on.

  • Majorrock

    Dan is on the show

  • deactivated84892

    @gundacker said...

    Highly doubt they have a good representative from the DFS side.

    I immediately retract this.

    Glad to see Dan on the show.

  • crazypaul

    Dan Back said on his twitter he would be appearing on this show today.

  • deactivated84892

    Wasn’t much of a story after all. Hope ESPN keeps in contact with Dan for future pieces.

    Thanks Dan for doing that. You handled it well.

  • PJGuin23

    DFS Tax Guru

    @theoddsmaker said...

    “Gambling” has become some evil word when it shouldn’t. This is supposedly a free country, or at least that was the founding principle it started on. Country is turning too much into a “you guys are dip shits so we will tell you how much you can drink, what you can smoke, what you are allowed to gamble on” state. If you have difficulties dealing with it – here, take these anti-depressant pills to cope, they are ok.

    Yep. The American Nanny State is rearing its ugly head again and both major political parties are culpable. The “Tobacco 21” drive in Democratic states is getting nauseating. And Trump maybe siding with turd ass Sheldon Adelson on iGaming in general whch could have DFS implications. The Libertarians have the right idea socially, but economically I’m not entirely feeling them.

  • theseige

    • 2015 DraftKings FFWC Finalist

    • x2

      2016 DraftKings FBBWC Finalist

    Can someone DM me a link to the show if they find one, was on-air so wasn’t able to watch

  • neogamer

    • x2

      2013 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel NBA Playboy Mansion Finalist

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=15500773 not video.. but it is in podcast form

  • blake024

    This probably doesn’t mean much. These so-called hearings are really just a sideshow put on by the lawmakers involved in the CMT subcommittee. Really, its just an excuse for those rabble-rousing lawyers to get in front of an audience and hear themselves speak more than anything. Federal law still exempts DFS as illegal gambling and recognizes it as a ‘game of skill.’ Until you hear of legislation passing the House of Representatives [or an Executive Order] that seeks to remove this exemption, or that attempts to redefine and reclassify what is ‘illegal gambling,’ don’t expect much to change in how the Federal government treats the DFS industry. And while were at it, let us give thanks to the power-hungry lawyers we elect to represent us in governement for using their non-fundraising time to try and regulate the DFS industry instead of trying to solve real problems in our society…

  • Bleedgreenb

    heres the video: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15501712

  • ActionJunkie

    To this day, you won’t convince me that the whole New York Attorney General fiasco, which snowballed everything, wasn’t inspired by the Mike & Mike show which screamed “DFS is gambling” multiple times (~5-10minute segments all throughout that day’s show) a week or two before the AG’s announcement/dfs attack.

    Like it or not, ESPN has a HUGE influence in the sports entertainment industry. OTL isn’t as influential as something like Mike & Mike of which many politicians/people of power are obvious listeners. Nevertheless, you would think IF they weren’t going to do their homework then they would have had a game plan for their communication when they were receiving SO MUCH ad revenue. But, no. Using the Mike & Mike example- they had that show where they screamed gambling = DFS then a few weeks later after the AG’s announcement, they back-tracked a little and spun it to it’s not “real” gambling because of the stakes.

    Moral of the story- so much lazy irresponsible media. It’s great OTL got Dan… but too little too late in some ways.

  • deactivated84892

    @ActionJunkie said...

    To this day, you won’t convince me that the whole New York Attorney General fiasco, which snowballed everything, wasn’t inspired by the Mike & Mike show which screamed “DFS is gambling” multiple times (~5-10minute segments all throughout that day’s show) a week or two before the AG’s announcement/dfs attack.

    Like it or not, ESPN has a HUGE influence in the sports entertainment industry. OTL isn’t as influential as something like Mike & Mike of which many politicians/people of power are obvious listeners. Nevertheless, you would think IF they weren’t going to do their homework then they would have had a game plan for their communication when they were receiving SO MUCH ad revenue. But, no. Using the Mike & Mike example- they had that show where they screamed gambling = DFS then a few weeks later after the AG’s announcement, they back-tracked a little and spun it to it’s not “real” gambling because of the stakes.

    Moral of the story- so much lazy irresponsible media. It’s great OTL got Dan… but too little too late in some ways.

    I lean MUCH more toward blaming OTL for running the “insider trading” scandal story than Mike and Mike banter.

  • tbuzz2234

    If something is gambling, and you agree, why does it matter who says that it is too? Do you not agree it is gambling? While I don’t play much or do sports betting for that matter, I can definitely see it is more skillful than sports betting, but you can’t tell me poker is not more skillful yet it is referred to as gambling.

  • deactivated84892

    @tbuzz2234 said...

    While I don’t play much or do sports betting for that matter, I can definitely see it is more skillful than sports betting, but you can’t tell me poker is not more skillful yet it is referred to as gambling.

    If you’re comparing Poker skill to DFS skill, It’s apples and oranges.

    You can’t win a H2H by bluffing.

  • tbuzz2234

    My point exactly: The skill involved in poker > the skill involved in DFS

  • ebsteelers

    @bigloser11 said...

    When the 2015 NFL season started and all the DFS ads ran, the industry got a lot of un- needed attention.Go back some months
    and there was plenty of threads how DFS was on life support and would die soon, some media outlets claimed a quick death.
    Here we are heading into summer and while some states have stopped DFS ( for now)it is still here.
    So basically ESPN and all the talking head experts can say what they want, but it looks like DFS will exist in some form for the
    future.Maybe bigger sites in most states w/ regulation, registry fees etc.jm

    this… also part of the problem is you ever guy on sirus xm or whatever station it is saying how they are winning all the time.

    that to go along the ads gives people the thought that they are going to win hundreds of thousands of dollars and that simple not the case..

    but unfortunately you cant regulate what people say on the radio, but it gives a bad expectation…

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