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  • raiders7532

    Experience Badge on Draftking means “PRO”?OR?

  • OsRitmos

    It’s a pretty bad system. Just because I’ve played a lot it thinks I have the highest experience badge, but I am not a good player lol. It’s very misleading IMO.

  • yeahthisiscuddy

    I’m a lifetime losing player and have the highest badge you can get. A great idea executed horribly. That should be draftkings company slogan.

  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    @yeahthisiscuddy said...

    I’m a lifetime losing player and have the highest badge you can get. A great idea executed horribly. That should be draftkings company slogan.

    If it were up to me, DK and all other sites would show profit/wins/losses for those who are profitable. As mentioned above, the current system employed by DK(and Yahoo) is misleading.

  • jecarl2

    I just noticed I have a badge, lol…It kind of looks like Gannon from Legend of Zelda NES

  • SouthernShield

    The system they implemented is too simple to be useful. It’s also somewhat useless when almost everyone has a badge.

  • jimmyrad

    No money in DFS, badge system too convoluted.

  • daves

    It wasn’t DK’s decision – the system was determined by regulations from both Massachusetts and Tennessee.

  • daves

    double post

  • raiders7532

    @kaetorade said...

    If it were up to me, DK and all other sites would show profit/wins/losses for those who are profitable. As mentioned above, the current system employed by DK(and Yahoo) is misleading.

    Agree here. Why doesn’t Draftking show wins,losses? Is it protecting the sharks to have a killing field with the fish?

  • kaetorade

    • 2013 DraftStreet DSBBC Finalist

    I think that its more about protecting people’s right to privacy and in particular, the ones who are losing players. A majority of players(80%), volume players included, will lose money playing DFS long term. That said, I’d love to see DK or any other site show stats(net profit, NOT gross winnings) for those who are winning.

  • pmsimkins

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    @kaetorade said...

    I think that its more about protecting people’s right to privacy and in particular, the ones who are losing players. A majority of players(80%), volume players included, will lose money playing DFS long term. That said, I’d love to see DK or any other site show stats(net profit, NOT gross winnings) for those who are winning.

    That’d certainly be interesting and probably lead to some (a lot) new job openings in the tout industry.

    That being said it just doesn’t feel right to me to have the website publish that info.

  • ramfan9776

    Where do you guys see badges?

  • mmark5

    how about just to an up or down arrow for profit %.. ME = DOWN but I still play

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    There actually are variations to the badges.
    There are ones that indicate things beyond just “experience”. Honestly though it’s tough to even differentiate between them on the screen. I’ll see if I can find it on the DK site. I forget where I found the explanation. I saw them mentioned recently and had one by my name so I was curious about it…no lie, it took about 15 minutes and multiple searches to find the information on the site, so at least while I was looking previously, they haven’t made it easy to find out about them.

  • TheRyanFlaherty

    Here you go.
    I was able to easily find it this time. I remembered that I stumbled upon it last time through the desktop contest details and I had not seen it previously since I almost always access DK through the app.

    https://www.draftkings.com/experience-badges

  • Thundar

    Thanks for the post Ryan didn’t know about that. Really useful.

  • ThatStunna

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    @raiders7532 said...

    Agree here. Why doesn’t Draftking show wins,losses? Is it protecting the sharks to have a killing field with the fish?

    Wins and losses aren’t a good metric either. I’m a winning player but lose 2/3 of my games on Fanduel.

    I don’t know about badges, but it would be cool to have a database of players that showed their major wins, even if it was run externally. People could look up potential opponents with some sort of “search” and not join games with the top end players, if they were picky. A man can dream…

  • coachwood

    Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!!!!

  • emac

    @coachwood said...

    Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges!!!!

    Well played!

  • Mccloud4203

    where do you even see badges?

  • Heterodox

    @TheRyanFlaherty said...

    Here you go.
    I was able to easily find it this time. I remembered that I stumbled upon it last time through the desktop contest details and I had not seen it previously since I almost always access DK through the app.

    Good find, they make a little more sense now, though I would expand on those definitions a bit more. Problem is it’s hard to distinguish them, as you said, though now that I’m looking for it I do see the different stripes. They also need to keep adding badges or stripes for every time someone accomplishes one of these things. All I see next to anyone’s name is one badge. I mean, in a video game, every time you “prestige” the badge adds a layer, or a stripe, or whatever. Do the same thing, DK, and tell us something meaningful.

  • Heterodox

    @Mccloud4203 said...

    where do you even see badges?

    click on a contest in the lobby and look at the entries

  • ihaveareputation

    • 2017 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • x3

      2016 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    The problem with identifying high-volume or profitable players is that the inverse is also true. Such a system allows the high-volume players to target players who don’t have those pretty little badges, so the “fish finder” problem still exists.

    I’m still a huge proponent of only allowing anonymous H2H matchups, and limiting the number of times you can play a specific opponent. For instance, I could say that I want to play 50 $1 H2H games, and I never want to play the same person twice. That levels out the variance a good bit, and it ensures that there’s no “fish finding” going on with more experienced players gobbling up all my games.

    The “label the pros” legislation is bad in my opinion, as it does nothing to mitigate the actual problem of fish finding.

  • Heterodox

    Fish finding isn’t the problem. It’s the fish not knowing they’ve been found. The serious guys have a variety of data mining techniques/access to private databases or whatever. They’ll find the inexperienced players regardless. Those players should have some indication of how aggressively they’re being targeted, and just how covered the lobby is.

  • billholler

    Badge system is completely meaningless other than from the legislative standpoint. You can enter $20k worth of tournaments, lose it all over a period of a month or two while still collecting a little back each day or week and still look like a pro player to a so called “fish”.

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