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  • deactivated84892

    Woke up to this unfortunate gem: http://www.legalsportsreport.com/9130/fanduel-draftkings-reach-ny-settlement

    Thoughts with you guys in New York.

    Statement from FanDuel

    FanDuel made the following statement via a company spokesperson:
    “We are announcing that as of today, FanDuel will cease offering paid contests in the state of New York per the terms of a settlement reached with the Attorney General on certain aspects of the ongoing litigation.

    New York is a critical state for FanDuel. FanDuel is headquartered in Manhattan, where we employ more than 170 young smart, passionate fans who are committed to innovating and providing the best fantasy experience possible. We are proud to be one of New York’s largest startup companies, and while it is disheartening for us to restrict access to paid contests in our home state, we believe this is in the best interest of our company, the fantasy industry and our players while we continue to pursue legal clarity in New York.”

    Statement from DraftKings:

    DraftKings Statement Regarding The Settlement with The New York Attorney General

    “Effective today, as part of a settlement reached with the Attorney General’s office, DraftKings will stop offering paid daily fantasy sports contests in New York State.

    We are an industry leader in technology, innovation and consumer protections, and we are grateful to the hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers who have enjoyed playing fantasy sports on DraftKings for the last 4 years. We will continue to work with state lawmakers to enact fantasy sports legislation so that New Yorkers can play the fantasy games they love.”

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  • jimmyrad

    @FunkyColdModella said...

    Coming from someone with the nick “Bighouse” I’d listen to your accountant.

    I’d say if your address is in New York and you circumvent the system, you may be opening yourself up to unwanted government attention should you actually win. Will it be from the IRS, local (NY A.G. etc…) or Federal? Who knows…………or as someone else pointed out, they (FD/DK) may go to double check if you do win, see the NY address and tell you to go _______ yourself.

    I wouldn’t chance it.

    First, the IRS doesn’t care if you make your living selling crack and scud missles, so long as you pay your taxes. Second, the rest is rubbish as well.

  • baseballislife93

    Still confused
    Can I go out of state on FD or DK enter a contest and be fine ? Anybody do it
    Is new York now listed as one of the States when u press confirm

  • NGJSkillz

    @jimmyrad said...

    First, the IRS doesn’t care if you make your living selling crack and scud missles, so long as you pay your taxes. Second, the rest is rubbish as well.

    Well said!

  • MastenPark

    I say that bullshit because many people who want to play the lottery where it is banned in their state travel to bordering states to play and it is totally legal. If that is legal for the hypocritical lottery system then it should apply to DFS and if that is not true then I would blow my lid.

    I stopped playing DFS when it was banned in Nov in NY state. I won 2699.00 that final Monday. I could have came back but I had little faith that it wouldn’t get banned eventually, and not to sound soft but I couldnt get my feelings hurt twice, but the main reason is I didnt know NBA and didnt want to take the time to learn NBA until I felt save that there would be no interruption in me playing. I guess I was right unfortunatly.

  • Jshiffy

    @jimmyrad said...

    First, the IRS doesn’t care if you make your living selling crack and scud missles, so long as you pay your taxes. Second, the rest is rubbish as well.

    Total BS. I know I am in NY and will be having somebody out of state enter contests on my account as well as insert my lineups until Mid June when I can play in NY again(hopefully).

  • FunkyColdModella

    @jimmyrad said...

    First, the IRS doesn’t care if you make your living selling crack and scud missles, so long as you pay your taxes. Second, the rest is rubbish as well.

    Circumventing a government edict………….sound advice.

    Second, reading is fundamental. I said “you may be opening yourself up” which means it’s a possibility and that’s true. Also, is it really beyond belief that FD/DK would disqualify someone with a New York address on their account? Again, it’s possible. It’s possible to thwart FD/DK blocking N.Y. residents as well.

    If people think no one will be looking for those ‘gaming’ the system, you probably also think a unicorn will deliver your winnings as well.

    But go ahead and roll the dice. What do you have to lose?

  • skinnyskins

    NFL Feud of Champions ($100K) Winner

    So are we gonna still gonna get paid for recruits that don’t live in NY and still play if we live in NY? Not that its a real big deal I am more or less just curious if anyone knows how that will work out?

  • munco

    This sucks. I guess this opens up a few more hours a week for me to do something else but I’ll miss playing. It also made watching games way more fun.

  • chess_is_ok

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    No one is talking about the potential liability FD/DK have of having to pay back people who lost money in NYS. I doubt they have assets to cover that expense.

  • myb821

    @FunkyColdModella said...

    Circumventing a government edict………….sound advice.

    Second, reading is fundamental. I said “you may be opening yourself up” which means it’s a possibility and that’s true. Also, is it really beyond belief that FD/DK would disqualify someone with a New York address on their account? Again, it’s possible. It’s possible to thwart FD/DK blocking N.Y. residents as well.

    If people think no one will be looking for those ‘gaming’ the system, you probably also think a unicorn will deliver your winnings as well.

    But go ahead and roll the dice. What do you have to lose?

    How many times are we going to go through this stupidity. I specifically asked both FD and DK and both told me if I am physically out of the state it’s fine

  • jellish

    @chess_is_ok said...

    No one is talking about the potential liability FD/DK have of having to pay back people who lost money in NYS. I doubt they have assets to cover that expense.

    Lol

  • Jshiffy

    @myb821 said...

    How many times are we going to go through this stupidity. I specifically asked both FD and DK and both told me if I am physically out of the state it’s fine

    Exactly, have no idea why people aren’t listening/reading the rules. As long as the contest is entered from out of the state you can play no matter where you reside. I can cross into NJ every day if I wanted to and then play.

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    @baseballislife93 said...

    Still confused
    Can I go out of state on FD or DK enter a contest and be fine ? Anybody do it
    Is new York now listed as one of the States when u press confirm

    You cant enter a contest or deposit funds while attempting these transactions in a restricted state,however even as a New York resident,you can deposit and still enter contests when you are doing this in a
    non restricted state.But keep in mind once you are back in your restricted state,you will be unable to edit your entries as the sites will still block you..

  • TheKris

    @MRCOOKONUTS said...

    You cant enter a contest or deposit funds while attempting these transactions in a restricted state,however you can deposit and still enter contests when you are doing this in a non restricted state.But keep in mind once you are back in your restricted state,you will be unable to edit your entries as the sites will still block you..

    Draftkings will block you but I believe you can still edit lineups on FD.

  • MRCOOKONUTS

    @TheKris said...

    Draftkings will block you but I believe you can still edit lineups on FD.

    Could be a temporary technical glitch with FD but that would be great if FD allows editing under these circumstances.
    A player can then go to Pennsylvania or New Jersey enter contests,then go home and edit.

  • DanielHaight

    • Yahoo Representative

    @madmanjayWV said...

    Fair point, just know that Yahoo has 0 credibility when it comes to their player pool…..

    A player might not be in the pool late nite or early morning and then once they figured out they goofed…they will add said missing player(s) in and not let you know.

    So, unless you happened to go back and check (as you wondered why said A, B, C player wasn’t available to begin with) — make sure you check back a few hours b4 lock, b/c ODDS ARE they added them in.

    I would like to point out that this has never once happened. Once a series is posted, we never add or remove players from the player pool. Our system is set up so that this is not possible, despite the claim.

    In previous versions of apps, we had auto-checked a filter that hid injured players, and our data provider was not consistent with their injury notifications—hence some users complained that they couldn’t find XYZ player in the player pool and then they just “showed up” later on. In reality this was sub-optimal design mixed with bad data—an issue we found early on and fixed. You should not see this again.

  • born2gamble

    It looks like we (NYers) will be allowed to play on both Yahoo and fantasy aces…I for one will be redistributing funds to these sites…

  • jojo491048

    Going to use this time to take a break from DFS for a while, may stop for good. TBH, while at first distraught, have discovered that I’m actually happier/less stressed out when NOT playing DFS, haha (like during the NBA ASB). More time with the girlfriend, family + doing other things I’ve enjoyed doing (like snowboarding, etc). The amount of physical time I spent on DFS doesn’t even compare to the emotional/mental time investment that goes into lineup research and I failed to notice the magnitude of either until I took that DFS break.

    So, rather than immediately jumping to other DFS/casino/gambling related pursuits, I encourage you all to step outside of that box for a little bit. May be surprised at what you find about yourself.

    Good luck all.

  • lk2000

    That’s cute, dk sent me an email saying I won when all that happened was they refunded my entries due to the ny ban.

  • Olhausen

    I love how this thread makes it to seven pages in one day but the thread about Dfs becoming legal in Virginia can’t even make it to three pages in a few weeks.

  • Mattg45

    @TheKris said...

    Draftkings will block you but I believe you can still edit lineups on FD.

    Yea, the last time fd blocked people in ny, I left ny state, entered contests, drove home in ny and edited them at home.

  • jason18801999

    You can do that but good luck getting paid if you end up winning. Your social security number is tied to your address through the site. If you’re in a restricted area then you will not be paid.

  • Mattg45

    @jason18801999 said...

    You can do that but good luck getting paid if you end up winning. Your social security number is tied to your address through the site. If you’re in a restricted area then you will not be paid.

    The terms on fanduel say you cannot enter a contest from new york, says nothing about editing them from ny. Also says if your from a restricted state you can enter contest from an area where it is permitted. I’ve done it, got paid, I don’t see what the big deal is

  • madmanjayWV

    @DanielHaight said...

    I would like to point out that this has never once happened. Once a series is posted, we never add or remove players from the player pool. Our system is set up so that this is not possible, despite the claim.

    In previous versions of apps, we had auto-checked a filter that hid injured players, and our data provider was not consistent with their injury notifications—hence some users complained that they couldn’t find XYZ player in the player pool and then they just “showed up” later on. In reality this was sub-optimal design mixed with bad data—an issue we found early on and fixed. You should not see this again.

    It happened. I don’t use cell phones to play DFS and I’m not a liar. If it’s not going to happen again, that’s great news to hear, but believe me wholeheartedly, it happened while on a laptop.

    NOW, back to the issue at hand.

    ONE thing, since I’m stupid obviously, could someone please explain to me the following about the NY AG? Why is this only about Draft Kings and FanDuel? He’s here (in his position) to “i.e. protect Joe Public the consumer” and to make sure “current NY state laws are followed”…..

    SO — if this is again illegal? Why would yahoo or fantasy aces or fantasy feud or any other site be allowed to operate in what I thought was an “ILLEGAL INDUSTRY, according to NY state law via the AG?”

    P.S. — I asked my buddy in Rochester the same ? and he said “the AG only had agreement w/the largest two DK/FD” …… I know there was an “agreement”, but if wrong is wrong then DFS should be null and void across the board. Obviously, seems to me since they were the BIG 2 and that’s where all the future $$$ is for the GOVT (perhaps)…..they could care less about the other “off-shoot sites.”

  • polarns

    @madmanjayWV said...

    SO — if this is again illegal? Why would yahoo or fantasy aces or fantasy feud or any other site be allowed to operate in what I thought was an “ILLEGAL INDUSTRY, according to NY state law via the AG?”

    DFS is not “illegal again” in New York. The legal issue of whether daily fantasy contests constitute illegal gambling is going to be addressed this September, and today’s agreement does nothing to address that issue.

    This new ban on NY players by DK and FD is a concession by DraftKings and FanDuel given to the NY Attorney General in exchange for him dropping his separate claim that sought restitution of lost entry fees to NY customers of DK and FD “by the fraudulent and deceptive acts” of their businesses. This “fraud issue” is specific to DK and FD and is separate from the “legality issue” of whether DFS constitutes illegal gambling in New York, which would impact ALL companies including Yahoo and Aces. To get the “fraud issue” dropped, the NYAG wanted DK and FD to stop taking paid entries in NY until the “legality issue” is settled in September, and DK and FD agreed. The NYAG did not directly compel this new ban through some legal action — it was a concession by DK and FD’s lawyers. DK and FD could have turned down the offer and continued to litigate the fraud issue, but they decided to take the AG’s deal and ban NY players instead.

    Thus, Yahoo and Fantasy Aces can continue to accept entries from NY residents because whether DFS constitutes illegal gambling is still an open question until September. Yahoo and Fantasy Aces are not parties to the AG’s lawsuit against DK and FD. (For what it’s worth, I never understood why only DK and FD were sued, but my best guess is because (1) there is evidence that DK and FD employees used their knowledge as employees to gain an advantage in entering contests on competitor websites, and thus the “fraud claim” could be brought against them and (2) DK and FD advertising, and not advertising by Aces or Yahoo, had some potentially “fraudulent” elements to them and (3) everything about DK and FD’s public image just pissed the guy off).

    Hope that clarifies. The coverage of this case by the press has been extremely confusing, I think because the people covering them often have no legal training and misinterpret legal rulings and agreements in a rush to be the first to report them.

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