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  • deactivated84892

    Woke up to this unfortunate gem: http://www.legalsportsreport.com/9130/fanduel-draftkings-reach-ny-settlement

    Thoughts with you guys in New York.

    Statement from FanDuel

    FanDuel made the following statement via a company spokesperson:
    “We are announcing that as of today, FanDuel will cease offering paid contests in the state of New York per the terms of a settlement reached with the Attorney General on certain aspects of the ongoing litigation.

    New York is a critical state for FanDuel. FanDuel is headquartered in Manhattan, where we employ more than 170 young smart, passionate fans who are committed to innovating and providing the best fantasy experience possible. We are proud to be one of New York’s largest startup companies, and while it is disheartening for us to restrict access to paid contests in our home state, we believe this is in the best interest of our company, the fantasy industry and our players while we continue to pursue legal clarity in New York.”

    Statement from DraftKings:

    DraftKings Statement Regarding The Settlement with The New York Attorney General

    “Effective today, as part of a settlement reached with the Attorney General’s office, DraftKings will stop offering paid daily fantasy sports contests in New York State.

    We are an industry leader in technology, innovation and consumer protections, and we are grateful to the hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers who have enjoyed playing fantasy sports on DraftKings for the last 4 years. We will continue to work with state lawmakers to enact fantasy sports legislation so that New Yorkers can play the fantasy games they love.”

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  • Galante118

    • Blogger of the Month

    @jason18801999 said...

    You can do that but good luck getting paid if you end up winning. Your social security number is tied to your address through the site. If you’re in a restricted area then you will not be paid.

    Just completely false. It’s scary how guys are so clueless yet make accusations as if they are fact.

  • VChair23

    Any official word from the smaller sites yet?

  • Galante118

    • Blogger of the Month

    No official word, but yahoo seems good to go… http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/fantasy-sports-ban-halt-yahoo-article-1.2572706

  • maxeernst

    @FunkyColdModella said...

    Also, is it really beyond belief that FD/DK would disqualify someone with a New York address on their account?

    DK support explicitly told me it is 100% fine to play when not physically in the state of NY.

  • whothis

    @maxeernst said...

    DK support explicitly told me it is 100% fine to play when not physically in the state of NY.

    So if u win, and make a wd request, do you have to go back to CT/NJ to do it?

  • maxeernst

    There’s a lot of misinformation being spread on this thread. Being a NY resident who considers themselves relatively informed, let me share a few facts.

    1) DK and FD both have explicitly stated that you can enter contests as long as you are not PHYSICALLY located in New York at the time you are signing up for them.

    2) DK has also stated that you will not be able to edit lineups while located in NY, as the site will be blocked based on your geo-location. Apparently you can still edit them on Fanduel, but unclear how long that will last for.

    3) You should have zero issues being paid out as a New York resident, so long as you abide by the TOS.

    4) Though DFS has been called “illegal” by the AG, the question is still being litigated in NY. DK and FD have pulled out of New York, but to the best of my knowledge that does not include an admission that DFS is illegal under current NY law. This is in part why smaller sites continue to operate and why you shouldn’t feel concerned re: paying taxes, your address being NY-based, etc.

  • maxeernst

    @whothis said...

    So if u win, and make a wd request, do you have to go back to CT/NJ to do it?

    No, your “My Account” page should always be accessible from NY from what I am told.

    Even if you had to return to a nearby state to withdraw, that doesn’t sound like the worst thing in the world.

  • maxeernst

    I posted this on page 6 of this thread yesterday, but will repost here.

    Response from DK support to some of my questions:

    Hi Max,

    Thanks for contacting us today. I can answer your questions in the order they were asked;

    1) All of your tickets have been converted to cash, currently there are no tickets available in your account.

    2) If you are physically located in New York, you will not be eligible to enter paid contests. If you are physically within a state which permits paid contests, you may enter.

    3) While you are physically located in New York you will not have the ability to access any platform (app or website), you will not be able to connect.

  • fandjinbkalltheway

    @maxeernst said...

    I posted this on page 6 of this thread yesterday, but will repost here.

    Response from DK support to some of my questions:

    Hi Max,

    Thanks for contacting us today. I can answer your questions in the order they were asked;

    1) All of your tickets have been converted to cash, currently there are no tickets available in your account.

    2) If you are physically located in New York, you will not be eligible to enter paid contests. If you are physically within a state which permits paid contests, you may enter.

    3) While you are physically located in New York you will not have the ability to access any platform (app or website), you will not be able to connect.

    I have just sent an email to FD stating the following: Hello, as an NY resident I have some questions about the new restrictions on fanduel. I have a situation in which I can enter contests from a legal out of state place. After entering and depositing into fanduel in a legal state will I A) be able to edit lineups I made while out of state and B) Track live scoring on either the fanduel app or mobile site(will I be able to access the site even if I can’t deposit or enter a contest). Ill let everybody know what the say.

  • Jazzraz

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    Just to second everything that maxeernst said : I also emailed Draftkings and was also told you can enter paid contests when physically within any state which permits them and that you can withdraw money from your account while in NY at anytime.

  • Yeoman

    @chess_is_ok said...

    No one is talking about the potential liability FD/DK have of having to pay back people who lost money in NYS. I doubt they have assets to cover that expense.

    That’s the point, isn’t it? That potential liability was tied to the fraud component of the litigation—the AG’s deal, essentially, was to let them out from under that hammer if they stopped accepting entries in New York until the question of legality was decided. (And as far as I can see, none of the proposed legislation would let them out from under that hammer even if DFS were explicitly made legal—the alleged fraud is a separate issue.)

    So, (a) stop doing business in New York for a while, or (b) continue as before and risk something that would blow up both companies completely (not to mention the possible risks for the owners themselves, whose limited liability under corporate law might go away if there were a finding of fraud).

    Even if the risk in (b) was tiny, it doesn’t seem like a bad deal to me.

  • whothis

    Thank you Max and Jazz, I have to uninstall/reinstall my apps on my cell to get latest versions. I tried yesteday in CT, couldnt deposit, will try later today.

  • johnnyj580

    @Galante118 said...

    No official word, but yahoo seems good to go… http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/fantasy-sports-ban-halt-yahoo-article-1.2572706

    DraftDay & FantasyFeud have left NY.

  • FrancisBooth

    @DanielHaight said...

    I would like to point out that this has never once happened. Once a series is posted, we never add or remove players from the player pool. Our system is set up so that this is not possible, despite the claim.

    In previous versions of apps, we had auto-checked a filter that hid injured players, and our data provider was not consistent with their injury notifications—hence some users complained that they couldn’t find XYZ player in the player pool and then they just “showed up” later on. In reality this was sub-optimal design mixed with bad data—an issue we found early on and fixed. You should not see this again.

    So is Yahoo staying in NY or not? I am going to deposit today if the answer is yes.

  • sotnohc

    @FrancisBooth said...

    So is Yahoo staying in NY or not? I am going to deposit today if the answer is yes.

    I live in NY, played NBA yesterday and was able to enter today on Yahoo. Seems fine.

  • whothis

    Concerning winnings, from dk staff

    Will P (DraftKings)
    Mar 22, 11:15 AM

    Good Morning,

    Please do not try to log into ZenDesk as this is the platform that DraftKings support uses to communicate with users.

    If you are credited with any winnings, you will be able to submit a withdrawal while you are outside of the state of New York. If you have any other questions, please respond directly to this email thread. Thank you for your cooperation.

    Best,

    Will P

    Customer Experience Associate
    DraftKings Inc.

  • wolfjb1

    Slightly off topic, but why the f_ck would Yahoo still prohibit Florida but allow New York, despite this obvious looming threat in New York and nothing remotely resembling a threat in Florida?

  • maxeernst

    Darren Rovell ‏@darrenrovell now2 minutes ago
    Yahoo has informed NY Attorney General that it will stop taking daily fantasy business within the state (H/T @AaronKatersky)

  • texasrangersfan

    A law will be passed within the next couple of months in NY. Schneiderman just wanted his 15 minutes of fame and money from DK and FD. I heard this morning that he didn’t ban season long because most of his employees play in season long leagues. If that is the case, he should lose his job. The people that should be worried are us in TX. The legislative session won’t begin until 2017 so if DK leaves like FD we are screwed for all of NFL and most of NBA for this upcoming year. I also think that these states are going to tax both FD and DK so heavily that they may have to merge into one company and have rakes so high it won’t be even worth playing cash games. I just feel bad for the smaller sites. They will be gone after all the states regulate.

  • FrancisBooth

    @maxeernst said...

    Darren Rovell ‏@darrenrovell now2 minutes ago
    Yahoo has informed NY Attorney General that it will stop taking daily fantasy business within the state (H/T @AaronKatersky)

    Your move, FantasyAces.

  • DaveNYC

    NY will be back up and running by nfl, book it. They just want their cut and will get it, the rake will go to 20%, everyone will complain, then still play and life goes on. There are certain industries such as gambling, construction, etc., you can’t just waltz into NY or NJ and set up shop without giving a piece to those who really control it.

  • edro990

    @texasrangersfan said...

    I also think that these states are going to tax both FD and DK so heavily that they may have to merge into one company and have rakes so high it won’t be even worth playing cash games. I just feel bad for the smaller sites. They will be gone after all the states regulate.

    Doubtful that legislation will be passed that will essentially kill off all the smaller sites. It is more likely that, in the end, fees will be based on gross revenues. The states are going to want to squeeze every last dime from the industry and keeping everyone one in business is in their best interest.

  • Mattg45

    Yahoo was added to the lawsuit by the attorney general a few weeks after he filed against fd, and dk, so this is no surprise to me that yahoo followed. Fantasy aces was never on the lawsuit if mentioned by the ad to my knowledge, so I guess that’s a plus. That doesn’t mean he won’t add these smaller sites now that the big dogs are following his orders, and doesn’t mean fantasy aces won’t pull out on their own until this is resolved.

  • baseballislife93

    Tried to have a buddy of mine see if he could enter me into contests from deleware and it tells him he is in a restricted zone (fanduel)
    Delaware good though
    Does it work for anybody else?

  • thealamo

    The NYS Bill A8588 is in committee and was submitted in December 2, 2015

    I wouldn’t hold your breath awaiting its passage. The State congress calendar does not show any legislative days from now till end of session in June. The State has been content to disapprove casino approvals since the very inception of Atlantic City, albeit a few crappy Indian casinos in Buffalo and surrounding area.

    As for entering out of State. If I was a winner of substantial prize I would look to pay my taxes in the State where my winning (ie employmet) occurred. Very much like a professional athlete that NYS taxes when playing a game in NYS.

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