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  • themikestrick

    Just saw this on ESPN

    “The leading daily fantasy sports operators are voluntarily suspending contests on college sports indefinitely in all states as part of a deal with the NCAA, company officials told ESPN’s David Purdum.”

    A link to the story: http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/15104454/draftkings-fanduel-stop-offering-college-fantasy-games

  • slcseas

    @BobGrinder said...

    Why? I’m just curious.

    It became apparent to me at a certain point that the major sites felt like they didn’t have to listen to their customers. I don’t know if it was ego, greed or just bad business that caused it. My guess is the lure of an IPO and billion dollar exit had them more concerned with fundraising and growth than actually creating a sustainable product.

    We all knew pretty early on that the rake was too high, but instead of finding ways to lower it they kept finding ways to squeeze out more. They never adequately addressed how to segregate novice players from the Sharks. They botched the response to virtually every critical service issue along the way. Bonus and affiliate policies are super shady. I think they also focused too much on adding niche sports instead of improving their core products.

    On a more philosophical level, I don’t like seeing the people in the forum thinking they can turn a $50 deposit into a living from DFS. There is a line between a hobby and being delusional and wasting time, and I think a lot of DFS players are the in the latter. I don’t say that to be a dick… I think it’s just reality with the current state of the product. A lot of these people could enrich their lives much more spending that 20 hours a week earning a degree, instead of trying to convince themselves that DFS is going to be their big break. I found it disapponting that as a community, more people wouldn’t try to curb that mentality and offer more realistic advice.

    I feel bad for the people working in the industry that will be negatively affected for sure, but I also like that some karmic justice is being served here.

  • mvanderk10

    This is ridiculous…The ncaa is a bureaucracy.

    If FA and FF dont offer college football i will personally make my own website dedicated to college football. I have my degree in programming and i know about businness law that i could just give the middle finger to the NCAA because i don’t need to make any money off of it i just enjoy the commroditory around college football….

    -No hate needed just love

  • chronoxiong

    There are no more NCAA video games so I’m not surprised with this decision. The NCAA are some greedy bastards who are using the players to make money and not let anyone else proper. So lame and pathetic. I guess this will make the month of October very slow without CFB as we have to wait one week for NFL action. Sad.

  • RatedDAL

    Can’t prove it but somehow this is Ed O’Bannons fault.

  • beezchild

    The thing I can’t get over is how quickly the narrative changes. Just over a year ago all the talk from “DFS Experts” was how they thought College Football would be the one DFS sport that would show the most growth. Now I hear a lot of people stating that this is ultimately good for DFS. I’ve heard people say that FD/DK dropping college football/basketball helps legitimize DFS and helps their standing in states that are starting regulation. I realize these sites aren’t going to fight too hard to save a sport that only accounts for 3% of their business, but it’s still funny to me how quickly everything changes. But, does anyone else find it a little strange that the “temporary” stoppage on NCAA games comes at a time when there are no NCAA games left to play after this weekend for another 6 months.

  • dfsthinktank

    I was going to get into CFB and CBB, but now not so much…what is this deal supposed to do anyways?? ಠ_ಠ

  • Dadeano860

    @mvanderk10 said...

    This is ridiculous…The ncaa is a bureaucracy.

    If FA and FF dont offer college football i will personally make my own website dedicated to college football. I have my degree in programming and i know about businness law that i could just give the middle finger to the NCAA because i don’t need to make any money off of it i just enjoy the commroditory around college football….

    I’ll join your site. I was already getting ready to argue with you about “fading Fournette.”

  • beezchild

    I think every business in it’s infancy is interested in growth first, while also trying to create a sustainable product, I also think it made sense for them to add niche sports to capture more of the growing fantasy market. NASCAR, UFC and PGA are all popular sports and only niche in the sense of fantasy, but not overall popularity. Obviously, the sites have made some monumental mistakes along the way, but to hope for end to all of seems a bit strange to me, unless you don’t play DFS which then maybe I can understand. I also think you may be overstating the idea that the majority of DFS players are trying to make a living from DFS. I think the vast majority of players view DFS as a hobby and not an investment in their financial future. Sure there are people who are going to think they are going to turn their $5 into a million, but to assume that is the vast majority of players I think is misguided. Lastly, to assume that people could enrich their lives by spending 20hrs. a week working towards earning a degree, means you assume most people don’t have a degree that play DFS, and I’m not sure that’s true either. Also, not all degrees are created equal, I know plenty of people with liberal art and philosophy degrees that can’t scratch to nickels together.

  • beezchild

    Also I miss NCAA Football for playstation

  • KevKev198622

    Thanks Ethan.

  • Heywood9855

    I hope the smaller sites keep CFB, but I’m not optimistic. Even if they do, the contests are so small.

  • KevKev198622

    With FD and DK out the way the opportunity is there for them to get a ton of cfbers.

  • timski83

    @RatedDAL said...

    Can’t prove it but somehow this is Ed O’Bannons fault.

    100 % true. Ed O’bannon is why this happened. Precedence, I believe they call that in law. Other websites will have a shot at taking the NCAA market share. The NCAA is most likely heading towards targeting the entire industry I would bet. The only hope is that word, “temporary.” We can only hope they work it out somehow??

  • FFguru71

    The problem here is…even IF DK and FD were to allow college sports again, what you are going to see is a majority of individual states make it part of the agreement(not to offer it) anyway…we have already seen it. They used college sports as the sacrificial lamb to get what they want(to operate legally) in the states. It’s sad, but it’s over.

  • DatDerFranny

    @KevKev198622 said...

    Thanks Ethan.

    It all started to go downhill when DK bought Draftstreet. then it became a two-way advertising war of ridiculousness.

  • tarheel66

    Fan Duel and Draftkings lose out, The united States Government loses out o possible taxes because a lot of money will once again travel off shore to the books. I now my money is heading out to the books again for the college seasons.

  • julieduke33

    @tarheel66 said...

    Fan Duel and Draftkings lose out, The united States Government loses out o possible taxes because a lot of money will once again travel off shore to the books. I now my money is heading out to the books again for the college seasons.

    Yes sir ….back to illegal gambling on college sports…My local bookie loves this…

  • mvanderk10

    @Dadeano860 said...

    I’ll join your site. I was already getting ready to argue with you about “fading Fournette.”

    My website will be fuckthencaa.com

  • kantiger77

    This totally sucks. I loved playing DFS college football.

  • jbergey

    Yup. They(FD, DK, DS) were all living comfortable and enjoying great success. One of the sites(DK) got super greedy forcing FD to match them and now we have a mess. DK aggressively went after the huge share of the revenue pie and put the entire industry at risk.

  • schmoe330

    • 2015 DraftKings FBWC Finalist

    • x2

      2015 DraftKings FCFWC Finalist

    Well looks like im learning nascar and golf smh……….RIP CFB we will miss you. No one is going to watch you anymore. The only reason why we watched D3 teams is to watch our players!! Watch you ratings take a shit NCAA…….middle finger emoji

  • dowjones206

    • x2

      2015 FanDuel CFB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    Man Too Sad CFB Was Goat!! I Guess This Is Just A By Product Of DFS Going Through The Legalization Process

  • mvanderk10

    @schmoe330 said...

    Well looks like im learning nascar and golf smh……….RIP CFB we will miss you. No one is going to watch you anymore. The only reason why we watched D3 teams is to watch our players!! Watch you ratings take a shit NCAA…….middle finger emoji

    That’s what happens when your site gets to big…you have to give in to corporate America to protect yourself rather than standing against it. I thought this was America, freedoms…

  • ksnoke

    @slcseas said...

    It became apparent to me at a certain point that the major sites felt like they didn’t have to listen to their customers. I don’t know if it was ego, greed or just bad business that caused it. My guess is the lure of an IPO and billion dollar exit had them more concerned with fundraising and growth than actually creating a sustainable product.

    We all knew pretty early on that the rake was too high, but instead of finding ways to lower it they kept finding ways to squeeze out more. They never adequately addressed how to segregate novice players from the Sharks. They botched the response to virtually every critical service issue along the way. Bonus and affiliate policies are super shady. I think they also focused too much on adding niche sports instead of improving their core products.

    On a more philosophical level, I don’t like seeing the people in the forum thinking they can turn a $50 deposit into a living from DFS. There is a line between a hobby and being delusional and wasting time, and I think a lot of DFS players are the in the latter. I don’t say that to be a dick… I think it’s just reality with the current state of the product. A lot of these people could enrich their lives much more spending that 20 hours a week earning a degree, instead of trying to convince themselves that DFS is going to be their big break. I found it disapponting that as a community, more people wouldn’t try to curb that mentality and offer more realistic advice.

    I feel bad for the people working in the industry that will be negatively affected for sure, but I also like that some karmic justice is being served here.

    100% this. FanDuel and DraftKings don’t care about their customers literally at all. Just the bottom line.

  • Dadeano860

    @ksnoke said...

    100% this. FanDuel and DraftKings don’t care about their customers literally at all. Just the bottom line.

    Obviously. That is the definition of a corporation. Screw people, their own customers, the environment, etc… Make money and nothing else. Big deal if 3 percent of revenue is gone to create a bargaining chip. Heck I bet less than 1 percent of their customers are cfb exclusive like me so they really don’t care

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