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  • soobv

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    Looks like fd is sending a strong message to dk. What happens if you win on both sites? Is fd forcing us to decide between them and dk?

  • Hatorade

    Porn 'Stache --- FanDuel Sunday Million (1st for $200,000)

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    @misfit said...

    Are there no exceptions to this?
    I mean, I have been waiting for this announcement to determine where I am to deposit.
    I have been struggling with health issues for quite some time now. I feel fine at the moment and may think i can attend but I cannot say where my health will be 3 months from now.
    I am 5’ 11 and 143lbs at the moment.
    Are you really telling me that because I am ill you want to take half of my winnings?
    Is this not going to force me to abandon this contest for DK’s?
    I mean, you really think that is a good policy?
    Just trying to get answers to clearify so i can determine what is the best option for me.

    They have the terms and conditions listed. It would appear that you would be able to claim the exemption and send someone else.

    The FFFC Final

    The FFFC finalists will be given free accommodations for the nights of the 12th, 13th, and 14th at The Cosmopolitan Hotel in Las Vegas. If the finalist cannot make the trip due to circumstances that FanDuel in its sole discretion deems extreme and outside the finalist’s control (which may include severe illness, potential loss of job, death in the family, etc.), FanDuel may authorize the finalist to nominate one other person to go in his or her place. However, the finalist will still be expected to fulfill their publicity obligations.

    One ticket for guests to the Saturday and Sunday parties is free; there will be a fee for additional guests, and space for additional guests at either event is not guaranteed. There will also be a welcome mixer hosted on Friday night by FanDuel.

  • Hatorade

    Porn 'Stache --- FanDuel Sunday Million (1st for $200,000)

    • 2014 FanDuel WFFC Finalist

    • 2013 StarStreet NFL Playboy Mansion Finalist

    I’m just hoping that there is no interruption in THE MLB SEASON that factors into this contest.

    Additional FFFC terms and conditions

    The decisions made by FanDuel management regarding, but not limited to, eligibility, winners, scoring, travel arrangement, rules, prizes and compliance with the Affidavit of Eligibility are considered final. No correspondence will be entered into. FanDuel reserves the right to make reasonable changes to these terms, (a) to ensure the fairness of competition, and (b) in response to unanticipated developments (such as technical failures, errors, acts of God, natural disasters, terrorism, changes in applicable law, interruption in the MLB season, failure of stats provider, failure of hotel provider, and failure to obtain a minimum number of entrants

  • Bulbus2

    Wouldn’t it be illegal to change the prize pool?

  • bobbyrogers46

    The UIEGA whould imply that a change in the payouts, or reduction of 50% is against the law since all winnings must be listed prior to a contest starting.

  • RikkiDee

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    I love people who complain about something that won’t effect them

  • soobv

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    @RikkiDee said...

    I love people who complain about something that won’t effect them

    How do you know which site to play on? What happens if in the same week you win a seat on both sites? The odds are it won’t affect many people, but the unknown makes it insanely -EV if you run the risk of taking a 50% haircut (on top of rake) paid to fanduel if you happen to win a qualifier on both sites and aren’t present.

  • KenAtFanDuel

    FanDuel Rep

    @tipandpick said...

    So a proxy is out of the question?! What if there is a legitimate conflict of schedule with a participant (i.e., traveling for work, health problem, death in the family, weather/travel problems, etc)? I’m far from a lawyer, but I have to imagine that policy would be difficult to uphold?

    …the policy is more than pictures and videography. Admit it.

    I’d rather not go down the road of making calls on hypothetical situations, but I’ll just say that if something bad happened and you weren’t able to travel to the FFFC final we’d work something out with you. We do reference a couple scenarios in our terms.

  • pokerrob1970

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    @soobv said...

    How do you know which site to play on? What happens if in the same week you win a seat on both sites? The odds are it won’t affect many people, but the unknown makes it insanely -EV if you run the risk of taking a 50% haircut (on top of rake) paid to fanduel if you happen to win a qualifier on both sites and aren’t present.

    You don’t run any risk. If you are good/lucky enough to win both you go to Vegas and hope to win both. Its really not a tough call.

  • eperson911

    @Bulbus2 said...

    Wouldn’t it be illegal to change the prize pool?

    Maybe because it’s in NV, the rules are different? Or since the 50% thing is part of the rules of the contest, it’s technically not changing?

  • HardCore

    In case people havent checked yet the FD and DK formats are completely different. I highly doubt alotta people are going to qualify for both this isnt mlb where the only difference was an extra SP. DK eliminated the K(thank God) and FD still has it with a min of 4.5k at each pos and DK goes as low as 1.9k plus DK is ppr with bonuses for other things unlike FD. The odds of the FD LU being good enough to win on DK is unlikely and vis versa. I’m sure theres some goons out there that might but cmon its not like everybody there will Q for both i’ll say 5 AT THE MAX so on FD’s behalf STFU and stop crying bout it…oh and bye the way i’m not going to atlantis over vegas because FD’s pot is bigger if given the choice…and yes hardcore actually has something nice to say about FD. I only hate their MLB everything else about FD is A+

  • lilprog

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    So, Guy doesn`t quite get roster submitted in time, and DK throws in up to 100k extra to accommodate. Guy doesn`t show up for live final at FD, and they take 50% away. Message sent loud and clear…..

  • RikkiDee

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    @soobv said...

    How do you know which site to play on? What happens if in the same week you win a seat on both sites? The odds are it won’t affect many people, but the unknown makes it insanely -EV if you run the risk of taking a 50% haircut (on top of rake) paid to fanduel if you happen to win a qualifier on both sites and aren’t present.

    You aren’t winning a seat on both sites in the same weekend, its not going to happen, don’t think about it. Go on with your life

  • bowens1984

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    I guess you cant play qualifiers on both sites the same week then, if you happen to hit the right players that week and end of winning Qs on both sites then it looks like you are stuck. Seems extremely unfair of the sites to make their battle the players problem.

    I also find it hard to believe this wasnt intentionally done.

  • pmsimkins

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    • 2015 FanDuel WFBBC Finalist

    Oh the humanity!!! I’m sorry, but this is easily one of the silliest threads I’ve seen. If your average buy in is $1-$5 I’m pretty sure you aren’t qualifying and if you do I’m even more sure you aren’t going to be bummed you have to show up.

    If there’s a legitimate issue preventing you from attending it’s been made very clear they’ll make an exception.

    The “you must be present to win” condition has been present on millions of contests. There’s no legal recourse. It’s a well established and unquestionably legal policy.

  • JBigg23

    The same 50 people play for finals seats on DK, because they are all huge dollar buy ins. Without question DK player pool is much smaller than FD. DK will have (again) several players with multiple entries to NFL finals while FD will likely have 1/2 with 2 at most.

    How do people not think “site pros” have many seats not being an issue?

  • misfit

    @pmsimkins said...

    Oh the humanity!!! I’m sorry, but this is easily one of the silliest threads I’ve seen. If your average buy in is $1-$5 I’m pretty sure you aren’t qualifying and if you do I’m even more sure you aren’t going to be bummed you have to show up.

    If there’s a legitimate issue preventing you from attending it’s been made very clear they’ll make an exception.

    The “you must be present to win” condition has been present on millions of contests. There’s no legal recourse. It’s a well established and unquestionably legal policy.

    I can only assume this is some sort of slap at me because i asked a very reasonable question?
    Well if you actually read my post you would know that I have been battling health issues and had to lay low last season But, yet, you assume that means there is no way possible i could win a seat or possibly compete for anything because i played 1 season for fun instead of profit?
    Why? because i did not play at FD or DK?
    I assure you that I have profited as much if not more than many of the so called pro’s and you larger buy in players. I was consistently making between $700 and $1000 a week in profit before I had to take time off.
    I know, that doesnt matter because it wasnt at Fd or Dk right? or because i do not dump $200 on my buy ins? Well, i was takinng on all comers at Buzzdraft for $50 and $100’s
    You are the one that is being silly with your comments.
    I can absolutely guarantee that i make far more money in this industry than 90% do as i have made my living off of it for more than 10 years now as I not only play but actually work for sites. One way or another my income comes from fantasy sports.
    But you are the big shit here that is all that matters huh?
    The rest of us are not allowed to ask anything because we are not worth the effort of an answer in your opinion.
    In case you have not noticed, like it or not there are low buy ins that do qualify for Vegas.
    I would not go so far as to wish what I have gone through on anyone. However, when you are not sure what 2 months down the road will bring, things take on different priorities.
    Between work and my treatments there was no extra time and i could not, WOULD NOT risk what little I had to leave my child unless i was certain.
    So, I had to take a break, Simple as that.
    Think before you talk next time. Do not assume you know the whole story from a few lines. know who you are insulting and why before you show no class.
    And YES, I would be bummed and pissed if I had to forfeit 50% on a no show. That is my childs future.

  • wavegoodbye

    i have no problem with there being an “in person” requirement… i akin it to the difference between an online poker tourney and a live one… you can’t play a live poker tourney without being there…

    my main issue is the sites are actually harming the industry by having conflicting big FF live event instead of having two separate weekends and taking away chances for players to play in both events…

    it means players will have to seriously think before entering a qualifier, it means less overall coverage for the industry and when the inevitable happens and someone qualifies for both it will mean a really awkward situation…

    both events are great setups and kudos for the sites for putting them on, but please take a look at the bigger picture, the people who this will ultimately effect will be the players…

  • emac

    This restriction should have no real bearing on anyone’s decision on whether or not they are going to enter a qualifier.

    Last year there were maybe a dozen people that qualified for multiple live finals (FD, DS, DK, SS) and at most two or three gamers won Qs on multiple sites on the same weekend. So veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy long odds AKA First World Problems that a gamer would have to address in this rarest of outcomes.

    Now, once somebody has qualified for either FD or DK, THEN I could see this influencing decisions to go after a Q on the other site.

  • pokerrob1970

    DraftDay BLB Finalist

    I still don’t get why people are upset?

    You Q for DK you go to Atlantis
    You Q for FD you go to Vegas
    You Q for both you go to Vegas and play DK online while your buddy gets to enjoy the Atlantis trip on your behalf.

    Where is the issue other than you can’t go to both?

  • bowens1984

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • RG Season Champion: NBA

    @pokerrob1970 said...

    I still don’t get why people are upset?

    You Q for DK you go to Atlantis
    You Q for FD you go to Vegas
    You Q for both you go to Vegas and play DK online while your buddy gets to enjoy the Atlantis trip on your behalf.

    Where is the issue other than you can’t go to both?

    You earned both seats, shouldnt be penalized if you prefer to go to Atlantis. Its Fanduel trying to block people from attending the Draft King final, its a shitty way to do business.

  • wavegoodbye

    its also not good for the industry as a whole… what would happen if the wpt and wsop each had their main events on the same day?

  • scottmsteiner

    I pray that this is the biggest issue I would ever have to deal with in my life.

  • bowens1984

    • 2014 StarStreet MLB Playboy Mansion Finalist

    • RG Season Champion: NBA

    If someone gets 50 percent of their winnings taken away there is no question they will try to fight it, what kind of publicity will a lawsuit like that bring on the site and industry? Not good, a hell of a lot worse than having someone win your final and not be at event in person.

  • bobbyrogers46

    @bowens1984 said...

    If someone gets 50 percent of their winnings taken away there is no question they will try to fight it, what kind of publicity will a lawsuit like that bring on the site and industry? Not good, a hell of a lot worse than having someone win your final and not be at event in person.

    Exactly my thoughts.

  • msidla

    2013 TPOY - 4th, 2014 DDBC Champion, 2013 DFFC 2nd Place, 2013 DSBC Finalist

    • 2014 FanDuel WFBC Finalist

    Just disappointed fanduel did this. I do understand the venue may have been booked but I find it odd and a bit questionable. Then to have a rep immediately come on in the forum here and re-iterate almost immediately “we insist you have to be there” (no mention of sending a players rep) rubs me the wrong way. While I can see some of both sides of this I don’t think it is an extremely classy move. I will not boycott totally but some of my volume just shifted.

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